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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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  • #1442
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,251 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Germany has announced mandatory testing for those arriving from countries not on their green list

    Ah that's probably what I heard then. Was that on news on RTE a short while ago?


  • #1443
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    froog wrote: »
    The data says its not very harmful for people under 65.

    Yes, an understatement perhaps at that age group. But considering the median age of those infected is 48 I think it is a general enough statement to cover the case data for Ireland.

    My issue is that those of the working age are being unnecessarily held back from keeping the economy going . And I don't like that we have one of the worst health services in Europe overseen by the same people distributing advice to those making decisions for the whole country.


  • #1444
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,415 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Not much point in spending €375million controlling it in the schools and having a completely lax approach at the airports. €2 million worth of body temperature scanners should be put in for a start at the airports, won't catch everyone but will put a dent in figures coming here due to travel.


  • #1445
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Gael23 wrote: »
    What are today’s figures?

    36-24-36



    edit sorry wrong forum


  • #1446
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    They aren't saying it's 0.2, they're saying it's likely to become 0.2. It's believed the current IFR is between 0.6 and 1. Big difference. I'm not going to discredit scientists just because I've never heard of them, I like to take all sides into account rather than say "I'm not taking their word".

    How does it become 0.2%? Treatment or what?


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  • #1447
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,415 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Germany has announced mandatory testing for those arriving from countries not on their green list

    Is ROI?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #1448
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,251 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Not much point in spending €375million controlling it in the schools and having a completely lax approach at the airports. €2 million worth of body temperature scanners should be put in for a start at the airports, won't catch everyone but will put a dent in figures coming here due to travel.

    I don't know why airlines don't have an interest in doing these checks themselves to protect their staff and customers tbh. Far from a perfect system but better than nothing


  • #1449
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Is ROI?

    Yes, all EU countries are.

    https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/einreiseundaufenthalt/coronavirus


  • #1450
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    You've gone silent since I gave you all the data, I've noticed. Anti-relaxers, flat curvers types thrive on hysteria and don't engage with the data in my experience. They live on their keyboards and are disproportionately represented online compared to the numbers you see out and about on a daily basis, IMHO.

    What you've just described there is the exact opposite of reality.


  • #1451
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,902 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    What's the cases then?

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • #1452
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Germany has announced mandatory testing for those arriving from countries not on their green list

    "According to Berlin’s Health Minister, Dilek Kalayci, the tests would initially be non-mandatory, and the state would cover the costs in all cases, SchengenVisaInfo.com reports.

    “Those returning from risk countries should be tested, and those returning from non-risk countries will also have the option,” Kalayci pointed out.

    She stressed that persons returning from non-risk countries would not be tested at the airport, but could receive a free test from their local health authority.

    Test facilities will be installed at all airports to help persons returning from high-risk countries to be tested immediately on arrival.

    Persons who do not want to get tested or those who test positive will be obliged to go through two weeks of mandatory quarantine."


  • #1453
    Mr rebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭Mr rebel


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    Micheal and Norma are like the priest and the gospel reader at mass. I'm just waiting for them to start handing out communion

    Norma looks like that that one primary school teacher we all had back in the day.


  • #1454
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    What's the cases then?

    Not released until the press conference ends.


  • #1455
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    I didn't say our cases are low, I'm saying that, based on the stats we have, the virus is not very harmful. You have absolutely no basis for saying that the virus would have a worse hospitalisation and death rate if more people got infected.

    EDIT: I found the official table with the actual hospitalisation and death rate split between the age groups - see p9 https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/COVID-19_Daily_epidemiology_report_v0.1_website.pdf

    Case fatality rate in Ireland based on number of notified cases (i.e. actual positive tests) as a % of the total cases;

    0-14 years 0%
    15-24 years 0.05%
    25-34 years 0.11%
    35-44 years 0.26%
    45-54 years 0.52%
    55-64 years 2.04%
    65-74 years 12.3%
    75-84 years 22.31%
    85+ years 27.69%

    All the while noting that the median age of those infected was 48 so it wasn't just older people that got infected.

    There average Irish person is 37 years old so for whatever reason infections are quite skewed toward the older demographic.
    An obvious reason one might suggest for this disparitywould be that young people are generally asymptomatic and would not present for testing but this does not appear to be true.
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.05.20031773v2.full.pdf+html
    Data from the Diamond Princess showed that the rate of asymptomatic infection was considerably higher in older age groups.
    Among the infected patients under 50 on the ship
    23% were asymptomatic.
    Among the 60-80 range- 58% were asymptomatic.


  • #1456
    Onesea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭Onesea


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    How exactly do you know that? With what's happening inside the body. People can have very dangerous levels of low oxygen without even knowing and feeling absolutely fine.

    It's been reported even mild cases can have lasting effects as well. So it's not harmless for the majority of people.

    You will notice a low spo2 level. I know this from experience.


  • #1457
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    0 deaths

    11 new cases

    Expect a big jump tomorrow, they’re holding back 25+ positive tests


  • #1458
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    0 deaths 11 cases


  • #1459
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Norma Foley has only been a TD since February. And now she's Minister for Education.


  • #1460
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,251 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    11 new cases https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1287804524053356549


  • #1461
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    0 deaths

    11 new cases

    Good figures!


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  • #1462
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,415 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Arghus wrote: »
    Norma Foley has only been a TD since February. And now she's Minister for Education.

    I thought Simon Harris also got an Education gig
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #1463
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,415 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    and 0 cats.


  • #1464
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    LOL at RTÉ just abruptly cutting away from the MM and Norma Foley press conference.


  • #1465
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Seamai wrote: »
    Good figures!

    Big jump tomorrow they’re not reporting weekend cases as much on Monday


  • #1466
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,290 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Big jump tomorrow they’re not reporting weekend cases as much on Monday

    Any idea or reason for that?


  • #1467
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Arghus wrote: »
    LOL at RTÉ just abruptly cutting away from the MM and Norma Foley press conference.
    Where do I watch the other conference?


  • #1468
    Van.Bosch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Big jump tomorrow they’re not reporting weekend cases as much on Monday

    Why are they doing this? Who isn’t reporting them? The hospitals to the HSE or the HSE to the public?


  • #1469
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,252 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I thought Simon Harris also got an Education gig

    Minister for Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science.

    Post established in 2020.


  • #1470
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Big jump tomorrow they’re not reporting weekend cases as much on Monday

    Missed the press conference, did the say that?


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  • #1471
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,415 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    0 deaths

    11 new cases

    Expect a big jump tomorrow, they’re holding back 25+ positive tests

    Why the hold back?
    https://forumofgames.com/




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