Masks

OldRio · 24-07-2020 04:38PM

Yes: valved

100% compliance in the two supermarkets in Carrick on Shannon we visited today.
Great to see.

Very busy as well.

amandstu · 24-07-2020 04:52PM

Are the general public allowed to use the visors now?

They seem to have suddenly made an appearance with supermarket staff......

Tork · 24-07-2020 04:52PM

Yes: to protect others

bush wrote: »

Well I can say it puts me off going to the shop. I would have gone the last few days but I absolutely hate wearing a mask, I cant breathe. Im just cooking using whatever I have left here instead of going to the shop.

What sort of mask are you wearing?

Benimar · 24-07-2020 04:56PM

Just home from being in around Waterford City. Percentage of mask wearing in shops is very high, with those not wearing one being outliers tbh.

Surprised (but pleased) to see the number of kids wearing them, even if they don't have to.

Be right back · 24-07-2020 04:56PM

amandstu wrote: »

Are the general public allowed to use the visors now?

They seem to have suddenly made an appearance with supermarket staff......

I've seen a small number of the public wearing a visor. The majority are wearing masks.

Stark · 24-07-2020 04:57PM

No: other

Seems to be a general thing in the restaurants I've been in that the waiting staff have been wearing visors. They're supposed to be fairly useless for protecting the staff from infection from what I've heard.

OldRio · 24-07-2020 05:23PM

Yes: valved

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Grand so. I'm not sick, haven't been sick, and live in a County with minimal numbers and 1% of cases.

I'm in an office here today with about 5 other people, 3 of which are on the next floor. Drove in, will be driving out. Minimal risk to or from me.

Leave me alone so

Did you stamp your foot when you wrote 'leave me alone so'

froog · 24-07-2020 05:30PM

Yes: surgical

i've done up a handy infographic to illustrate mask usage for those who are having trouble with it.

Fizzlesque · 24-07-2020 06:07PM

Glenomra wrote: »

I know very little about the efficiency of masks in preventing the virus but I have heard from a number of small shop owners that the compulsory wearing of them has resulted in a discernible loss of custom. Before anybody asks, this is anecdotal information!!!!!!!! I cannot provide any professional research to support this view. Is this other people's conclusion also. and if so, will it change as people become more used to wearing the masks.

I'm definitely spending a lot less these days as the only shopping I am doing is grocery shopping. I find wearing a mask extremely unpleasant so my approach is to avoid every place that requires one to be worn.

Still need to go to the supermarket though, but now I make a shopping list, zip around the shop as fast as I can and get out as quickly as possible. Before mask wearing was compulsory, I would browse and buy stuff I didn't initially intend to buy, but mask wearing is so horrible, I stick rigidly to getting what's on the list, fling it in the basket and get out of the shop as fast as I can.

Until this is over and we don't have to wear masks anymore, my spending will be curbed. That's no harm though, I could do with building up some savings. Was a frivolous spender before, maybe Covid will cure me

Overheal · 24-07-2020 06:32PM

No: I don't care enough

https://twitter.com/DrJoeHanson/status/1283463886356783104?s=20

24-07-2020 07:07PM

Yes: valved

GazzaL wrote: »

You need to have another read yourself.

Here's a picture for the slow learners. Straight from the WHO. I see people doing at least 5 of the 7 "Don'ts" every single day of the week.

I've been reusing my masks... I've only 2 on rotation

odyssey06 · 24-07-2020 07:11PM

Fizzlesque wrote: »

I'm definitely spending a lot less these days as the only shopping I am doing is grocery shopping. I find wearing a mask extremely unpleasant so my approach is to avoid every place that requires one to be worn.

I found it challenging at first. I am using the blue surgical masks and my glasses would fog up.

This is my new routine and I am now much more comfortable with the masks:
* Put the mask on well before you are going into the shop, so you can get through the initial adjustment phase - ideally with a mirror.
* Fit the metal strip snugly around the bridge of your nose
* Breathe out through your nose

Doing this I can walk to the corner shop with the mask on all the way.
I have seen people walking outside with masks on and they look comfortable.
I think if you just throw the mask on as you're going into the shop more likely it won't be sitting right.

timetogo1 · 24-07-2020 07:19PM

No: I don't care enough

Overheal wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DrJoeHanson/status/1283463886356783104?s=20

Theres another video in that thread that's pretty good too.

https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc

It addresses a lot of the rubbish that some posters have posted on this thread.

Multipass · 24-07-2020 07:21PM

Fizzlesque wrote: »

I'm definitely spending a lot less these days as the only shopping I am doing is grocery shopping. I find wearing a mask extremely unpleasant so my approach is to avoid every place that requires one to be worn.

Still need to go to the supermarket though, but now I make a shopping list, zip around the shop as fast as I can and get out as quickly as possible. Before mask wearing was compulsory, I would browse and buy stuff I didn't initially intend to buy, but mask wearing is so horrible, I stick rigidly to getting what's on the list, fling it in the basket and get out of the shop as fast as I can.

Until this is over and we don't have to wear masks anymore, my spending will be curbed. That's no harm though, I could do with building up some savings. Was a frivolous spender before, maybe Covid will cure me

Same here, no more browsing, no more Saturday morning shopping. It’s too unpleasant, and also makes me really depressed. Essential groceries only for me until masks are gone.

_Kaiser_ · 24-07-2020 07:23PM

OldRio wrote: »

Did you stamp your foot when you wrote 'leave me alone so'

Not at all. Just glad to see that beyond the confines of this thread, realism is still out there.

Was in one of the Fresh shops/market places for lunch and again very very few wearing masks beyond staff.

From what I saw today in and around Dublin it seems the majority aren't too bothered about "masking up" after all.

phormium · 24-07-2020 07:23PM

I'm doing the minimum shopping too, mask is doable obviously but not comfortable so I'm only shopping for essentials, grocery shopping with a list, quick in and out, loads of milk frozen to save having to shop too often! No clothes shopping, all online for that, the odd trip to diy stores for necessary bits but no corner shop for impulse buys like an ice cream/coffee etc, might lose weight!

It has to be having an effect on retailers, I can't imagine anyone spending a minute longer in a mask than they have to and I feel sorry for the shop workers who have to keep them on all day, it must be difficult.

Overheal · 24-07-2020 07:27PM

No: I don't care enough

Multipass wrote: »

Same here, no more browsing, no more Saturday morning shopping. It’s too unpleasant, and also makes me really depressed. Essential groceries only for me until masks are gone.

I do miss retail therapy but the belt is tight enough for all this

_Kaiser_ · 24-07-2020 07:28PM

phormium wrote: »

I'm doing the minimum shopping too, mask is doable obviously but not comfortable so I'm only shopping for essentials, grocery shopping with a list, quick in and out. No clothes shopping, all online for that, the odd trip to diy stores for necessary bits but no corner shop for impulse buys like an ice cream/coffee etc, might lose weight!

It has to be having an effect on retailers, I can't imagine anyone spending a minute longer in a mask than they have to and I feel sorry for the shop workers who have to keep them on all day, it must be difficult.

Same as. I've been putting off doing the weekly shop and going through the freezer. Will go tomorrow morning early but it'll be a quick in and out for my essentials rather than a more leisurely wander through the aisles.

Boggles · 24-07-2020 08:33PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Not at all. Just glad to see that beyond the confines of this thread, realism is still out there.

Was in one of the Fresh shops/market places for lunch and again very very few wearing masks beyond staff.

From what I saw today in and around Dublin it seems the majority aren't too bothered about "masking up" after all.

Realism?

From what I have seen this week, the vast majority are wearing masks, I'm hearing exactly the same from friends and family.

I have seen dozens of other users on other threads echo that.

Strange that. Depends how you define Realism I suppose.

Fizzlesque · 24-07-2020 08:33PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

I found it challenging at first. I am using the blue surgical masks and my glasses would fog up.

This is my new routine and I am now much more comfortable with the masks:
* Put the mask on well before you are going into the shop, so you can get through the initial adjustment phase - ideally with a mirror.
* Fit the metal strip snugly around the bridge of your nose
* Breathe out through your nose

Doing this I can walk to the corner shop with the mask on all the way.
I have seen people walking outside with masks on and they look comfortable.
I think if you just throw the mask on as you're going into the shop more likely it won't be sitting right.

Thanks for your reply, Odyssey. I did try wearing the mask at home to get used to it at first, but my instinct every time is to remove it three or four breaths in. I suffer it in the supermarket because it's compulsory but I absolutely detest it.

I'm one of those people on a bus that wants the window open, no matter how cold it is outside because I feel suffocated in stale air and I also have a tendency towards feeling claustrophobic in confined or busy spaces, so I suspect the mask creates both of these sensations and brings about a degree of panic. For that reason, I think the best thing for me is to avoid any place that requires a mask until it's no longer compulsory. Still have to go to the supermarket and that is a challenge but if I write a list and stick to it, I can be in and out, hopefully, before that panic feeling overwhelms me.

This is it · 24-07-2020 08:50PM

No: other

I've to take my glasses off when wearing one which isn't ideal. Haven't fallen into a freezer in Tesco yet, but it's early days

odyssey06 · 24-07-2020 08:57PM

This is it wrote: »

I've to take my glasses off when wearing one which isn't ideal. Haven't fallen into a freezer in Tesco yet, but it's early days

I haven't tried it myself, some people say to put a piece of cloth \ cotton handkerchief down from your nose, under the mask, and fit the metal strip around that for an extra snug fit. It stops some of the backdraft \ fogging up effect.

Another thing to try is to move your glasses further out along the bridge of your nose.

Away With The Fairies · 24-07-2020 08:59PM

Yes: valved

This is it wrote: »

I've to take my glasses off when wearing one which isn't ideal. Haven't fallen into a freezer in Tesco yet, but it's early days

A piece of tissue works great under masks.

timmy_mallet · 24-07-2020 09:03PM

froog wrote: »

i've done up a handy infographic to illustrate mask usage for those who are having trouble with it.

Will you do one with velocity of whatever that spray is, and perhaps the length of how far whatever those dots are indicating will go? And maybe the frequency of the above scenario in a retail setting? And perhaps one from another person's viewpoint who is wearing a mask too?

odyssey06 · 24-07-2020 09:06PM

Fizzlesque wrote: »

Thanks for your reply, Odyssey. I did try wearing the mask at home to get used to it at first, but my instinct every time is to remove it three or four breaths in. I suffer it in the supermarket because it's compulsory but I absolutely detest it.
I'm one of those people on a bus that wants the window open, no matter how cold it is outside because I feel suffocated in stale air and I also have a tendency towards feeling claustrophobic in confined or busy spaces, so I suspect the mask creates both of these sensations and brings about a degree of panic. For that reason, I think the best thing for me is to avoid any place that requires a mask until it's no longer compulsory. Still have to go to the supermarket and that is a challenge but if I write a list and stick to it, I can be in and out, hopefully, before that panic feeling overwhelms me.

That's a tough situation.
I have quite a sensitive sense of smell. Stong scents \ dust \ perfumes \ flowers etc and I sneeze - stuff that wouldn't bother most people.
There's quite a few places I'd feel more comfortable with the mask than without. I think if I walked into a stuffy room I'd rather have the mask on than not. Purely from that sensory \ psychological aspect.
For me the mask is like an extra shield for that.
It'd probably take a jedi mind trick for you to think of it in the same way, but just throwing out the idea to think of the mask as an ally re: that feeling and stale air not an enemy - as a shield to the bustle around you.

It's probably already occurred to you, but re: the list it also helps if you write it out in the order you will go around the shop.

Overheal · 24-07-2020 09:08PM

No: I don't care enough

This is it wrote: »

I've to take my glasses off when wearing one which isn't ideal. Haven't fallen into a freezer in Tesco yet, but it's early days

What Fairies said (tissue) but also you can line the top of your mask with medical tape (better if you need it for hours/all day) some people on FB have said they tried and had good success with soaping the lenses.

Galwayguy35 · 24-07-2020 09:31PM

I put it on going to the supermarket because its only a matter of time before everyone has to so might as well get used to it had a few dust masks at home so use them.

The surgical ones look uncomfortable to wear but they seem to be the most common type people are wearing.

Sconsey · 24-07-2020 09:59PM

No: other

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Will you do one with velocity of whatever that spray is, and perhaps the length of how far whatever those dots are indicating will go? And maybe the frequency of the above scenario in a retail setting? And perhaps one from another person's viewpoint who is wearing a mask too?

Here you go, one of many studies that answer your questions...

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/5.0016018

BonsaiKitten · 24-07-2020 10:17PM

Yes: to protect myself and others

odyssey06 wrote: »

I found it challenging at first. I am using the blue surgical masks and my glasses would fog up.

This is my new routine and I am now much more comfortable with the masks:
* Put the mask on well before you are going into the shop, so you can get through the initial adjustment phase - ideally with a mirror.
* Fit the metal strip snugly around the bridge of your nose
* Breathe out through your nose

Doing this I can walk to the corner shop with the mask on all the way.
I have seen people walking outside with masks on and they look comfortable.
I think if you just throw the mask on as you're going into the shop more likely it won't be sitting right.

Getting a mask that you can strap around your head (instead of the ones that hook over ears) makes a big difference. I buy mine from @combatcovidmasks on Instagram (Solo style - I've no affiliation to her) and after spending a couple of minutes adjusting the straps, the glasses never fog.

I've heard that soap on lenses can damage lens coating so I'd avoid that.

froog · 24-07-2020 10:49PM

Yes: surgical

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Will you do one with velocity of whatever that spray is, and perhaps the length of how far whatever those dots are indicating will go? And maybe the frequency of the above scenario in a retail setting? And perhaps one from another person's viewpoint who is wearing a mask too?

please tell me you are joking? the point of the child-level simple diagram is to illustrate that a simple barrier placed in front of a mouth spray of spit will stop some of that spit from going further into the air. there is literally no debate that an object in front of another object will hinder that objects ability to move in a certain direction. it's physics at the most basic level.

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