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F1 2020: Hungarian GP

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  • #52
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Red Bull not looking good round here at all!


  • #53
    weekaizer
    Registered Users Posts: 621 ✭✭✭weekaizer


    George Russell take a bow son.


  • #54
    skipper_G
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Another ballsy move from the Pink Panthers. Love to see it but...

    I almost had a coronary when I realised they went back out on mediums. I thought they should have gone on softs and backed out of the lap if needed. But glad it worked out in the end


  • #55
    SureYWouldntYa
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    More questions about Albon unfortunately

    P13 isnt good enough


  • #56
    Faugheen
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Commentators do my head in sometimes. Safe by .4 and going again, "Ohhh risky going on the mediums".

    This has aged well. They’re very lucky the rest of the field couldn’t go any faster. Got away with it big time.


  • #57
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    SureYWouldntYa wrote: »
    More questions about Albon unfortunately

    P13 isnt good enough

    They did dump him in the middle of rush hour traffic there for his final run, mind!


  • #58
    skipper_G
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    The Red Bull seems to have gotten worse since Austria. Having said that Albon out qualified by Russell is a shocker


  • #59
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    SureYWouldntYa wrote: »
    More questions about Albon unfortunately

    P13 isnt good enough

    And behind a Williams.


  • #60
    [Deleted User]
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    Mercedes could likely lap the field tomorrow if they fancied it. Depressing.


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  • #61
    [Deleted User]
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    This has aged well. They’re very lucky the rest of the field couldn’t go any faster. Got away with it big time.

    I made sure to post it before so I couldn't be accused of after-timing. Of the cars behind there were 2 William, no worries. Ocon, ha. So you would have needed the rest to all gain .4 while RP gained 0 on their last run. Was never gonna happen.


  • #62
    Top Dog
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Commentators do my head in sometimes. Safe by .4 and going again, "Ohhh risky going on the mediums".
    Same when Seb was doing a lap - "he's not going to be worrying the top 5" and he immediately plonks it in 4th :pac:

    Albon really not happy with the team for where they sent him out - and to be fair the team has to shoulder some of the blame for one of the cars getting eliminated in Q2


  • #63
    SureYWouldntYa
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    They did dump him in the middle of rush hour traffic there for his final run, mind!

    Horner will let us know what they think anyway, but the rest of Q1 and Q2 he was still way off the pace

    This 90% chance of rain looked a great prediction eh?


  • #64
    tipp_tipp_tipp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 407 ✭✭tipp_tipp_tipp


    Very disappointed to see RB nowhere near the pace. Fancied Verstappen this weekend. Pretty much confirms now Mercedes will completely dominate the season. Albon under a lot of pressure already, will he last the season? Thought the RP strategy on the mediums was bizarre, don't know why they felt the need to take the risk.


  • #65
    [Deleted User]
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    Inquitus wrote: »
    Even Latifi made it into Q2, credit where it is due I guess!

    Yeah Latifi has been making all the right moves so far this season so credit to him too.


  • #66
    SureYWouldntYa
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    tipp_tipp_tipp wrote: »
    Thought the RP strategy on the mediums was bizarre, don't know why they felt the need to take the risk.

    A move to show they’re becoming a top team i reckon, and the risk paid off

    If they finish the race tomorrow without incident they’ll be P3 and P4 you’d have to think


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  • #67
    Top Dog
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    SureYWouldntYa wrote: »
    This 90% chance of rain looked a great prediction eh?
    Teasing us :(


  • #68
    Cool_CM
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    Jaysus, some lap by Lewis


  • #69
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Has no-one involved in producing the F1 stream actually watched it since the middle of last year? The on-boards are probably a second behind the graphics. It's really poor and kinda makes the graphic worse than pointless.


  • #70
    SureYWouldntYa
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    Hamilton beats the lap record by almost a second

    Ridiculous


  • #71
    weekaizer
    Registered Users Posts: 621 ✭✭✭weekaizer


    Mercedes Cars are in a different formula...


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  • #72
    skipper_G
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    Perez fluffed his first run, if the weather takes a turn that could be costly


  • #73
    skipper_G
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    weekaizer wrote: »
    Mercedes Cars are in a different formula...

    Scary how far ahead they are


  • #74
    Top Dog
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    Can Stroll hold on to 3rd spot? :eek:


  • #75
    [Deleted User]
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    The way The Merc goes through the corners is like a video game. It's mental.


  • #76
    weekaizer
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    skipper_G wrote: »
    Scary how far ahead they are

    Scary and boring.


  • #77
    skipper_G
    Registered Users Posts: 14,648 ✭✭✭✭skipper_G


    The Mercedes a second clear of the other teams. Unless they take each other out tomorrow its an easy 1-2


  • #78
    ScrubsfanChris
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    Four Mercedes on the front rows.


  • #79
    SureYWouldntYa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,772 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    So Merc look to have another dominant year, which will make it 7 in a row

    Ferrari won 5 in a row in the early 2000s and wasnt the rule changes for 2005 brought in to stop them? How come they’re not doing the same for a more dominant team now?


  • #80
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Snore fest tomorrow then


  • #81
    [Deleted User]
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    Honestly the way that Merc can just turn in reminds me of the concept cars in video games work. Wait til you're a few metres from the apex and just ram the steering in the desired direction. I'd say everyone would love a go in it.


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  • #82
    namloc1980
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    Mercedes dominant and Pink Mercedes next best. The Red Bull doesn't look happy. Car is a bit skittish and unbalanced.


  • #83
    This is it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭This is it


    Bar the first lap there's likely no point looking at the front two. Hamilton will take off and Bottas will follow 5 or 6 seconds behind. 3 backwards will be interesting though


  • #84
    Top Dog
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    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    Snore fest tomorrow then
    Rain is our only chance of some excitement I'd say. I can see myself skipping the race and just watching the highlights


  • #85
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,547 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    recyclebin wrote: »
    Just shows how poor Haas and Alfa are without the cheating Ferrari engine! Is it too late for the likes of Williams to appeal last seasons results :p

    True enough. It's just part of the normal ups and downs in f1. The old Sauber team was no stranger to the back of the midfield. With the worst engine it's within the normal range for them.

    Another poor show from Kimi. He isn't the fastest driver in the team any longer. Time to go at the end of this year.


  • #86
    afatbollix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Has no-one involved in producing the F1 stream actually watched it since the middle of last year? The on-boards are probably a second behind the graphics. It's really poor and kinda makes the graphic worse than pointless.

    Video streams are now delayed since they are produced in London instead of on track. It’s added about 2 to 3 seconds of a delay.


  • #87
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Top Dog wrote: »
    Rain is our only chance of some excitement I'd say. I can see myself skipping the race and just watching the highlights

    Even the rain won’t save us from a procession. I’ll definitely be skipping it after lap 1.


  • #88
    Cork Trucker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Is 3rd the highest Stroll has now qualified on the road? I know he started 2nd at Monza but originally qualified 4th.


  • #89
    H3llR4iser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    Wonder how long it'll be until Red Bull lodge their own complaint about Racing Point - although they have bigger fish to fry, honestly. Besides the car going backwards, they need to fix their "second driver issue" as soon as possible, Albon is pulling a "Gasly Episode 2".

    However high one wants to rate Max, there simply can't be that kind of difference between him and Albon, nor Gasly for what matters, on the single lap - otherwise these wouldn't even belong in F1. There's something wrong in the team, technical or political is anyone's guess.


  • #90
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,547 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Wonder how long it'll be until Red Bull lodge their own complaint about Racing Point - although they have bigger fish to fry, honestly. Besides the car going backwards, they need to fix their "second driver issue" as soon as possible, Albon is pulling a "Gasly Episode 2".

    However high one wants to rate Max, there simply can't be that kind of difference between him and Albon, nor Gasly for what matters, on the single lap - otherwise these wouldn't even belong in F1. There's something wrong in the team, technical or political is anyone's guess.

    I'm sure Vettel won't miss the opportunity to remind red bull that they could use a decent driver in their second car.

    I wouldn't believe red bull have closed the door on Vettel just because they said so.


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  • #91
    Harika
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    If shwarzman wins that, he should be promoted to F1 next year


  • #92
    H3llR4iser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    Harika wrote: »
    If shwarzman wins that, he should be promoted to F1 next year


    I was watching that...a LOT of strategy in that, with the medium tyres dropping off so fast, but there are quite a lot of nice talents in F2 right now. One'd wish they'd go with 3 cars teams to give these kids an opportunity.



    Also, insane command of Neapolitan from Shwartzman, jaysus, most non-neapolitan Italians can't come close to that!!!


  • #93
    chicorytip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,163 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    Wonder how long it'll be until Red Bull lodge their own complaint about Racing Point - although they have bigger fish to fry, honestly. Besides the car going backwards, they need to fix their "second driver issue" as soon as possible, Albon is pulling a "Gasly Episode 2".

    However high one wants to rate Max, there simply can't be that kind of difference between him and Albon, nor Gasly for what matters, on the single lap - otherwise these wouldn't even belong in F1. There's something wrong in the team, technical or political is anyone's guess.
    I think Verstappen is on such a high level that he would make any team mate seem inferior. Albon knows what he is up against but is still very wet behind the ears so I would leave him there for another season to see if he develops.


  • #94
    Harika
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭Harika


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    I was watching that...a LOT of strategy in that, with the medium tyres dropping off so fast, but there are quite a lot of nice talents in F2 right now. One'd wish they'd go with 3 cars teams to give these kids an opportunity.


    Also, insane command of Neapolitan from Shwartzman, jaysus, most non-neapolitan Italians can't come close to that!!!

    His tyre management was amazing, while the other strategy burned their tyres in fear of undercut he managed it beautiful, and the laps before he pitted still drove the same times like the rest.
    5 rookies in the top 6. Guess I predicted that ;)


  • #95
    Dont be at yourself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,585 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Seems a similar story with Red Bull as last year -- off the pace in the first few races trying to understand how to setup their car. Very frustrating given their supposed aerodynamic expertise.

    It's tough on Albon but the pressure is definitely ramping up now.

    Aside from that, still enjoying the scrap in the midfield. Amazing that Racing Point could get through in Q2 on mediums, hope they don't leave the other teams behind them.


  • #96
    AMKC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Delighted to see William's making progress and doing better. Not so happy to see how far ahead of everyone Mercedes are. A pity to see Alfa and Haas doing so bad now. Alfa could always go back to being Sauber and get Renault or Honda engines. I think both them engines are better than the Ferrari one at the moment.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • #97
    Cork Trucker
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    Sauber signed a deal for Honda engines before a change of management changed things and done the Alfa Romeo deal.


  • #98
    Cookie_Monster
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    just watched quali highlights, crofty is so shouty these days, its awful!


  • #99
    El_Duderino 09
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    chicorytip wrote: »
    I think Verstappen is on such a high level that he would make any team mate seem inferior. Albon knows what he is up against but is still very wet behind the ears so I would leave him there for another season to see if he develops.

    That's famously not what red bull do.

    I think max might be the fastest driver at the moment. He'd make anyone look slow. But that's Albon's problem as the team is looking at him losing a second a lap to max in the race and they know they can get loads more out of the car and ultimately more points than Albon can get

    I haven't written off Seb moving to Red Bull.


  • #100
    AMKC
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    Ms


    Cork Trucker wrote: »
    Sauber signed a deal for Honda engines before a change of management changed things and done the Alfa Romeo deal.

    I know that. I the time it certainly looked like the better thing to do and the better engines too. But even do the Honda engines are still not perfect they have certainly come on both in power and reliability and are no where as bad as they were.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • #101
    Harika
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭Harika


    AMKC wrote: »
    I know that. I the time it certainly looked like the better thing to do and the better engines too. But even do the Honda engines are still not perfect they have certainly come on both in power and reliability and are no where as bad as they were.

    +100 million into the budget. Not sure how much Alfa does


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