FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

Jenosul · 17-07-2020 02:17PM

Coulter97 wrote: »

Phase 3 being extended does not prevent the examination taking place. The indoor gathering limit will be 50 as opposed to 100 but there's not much difference apart from that. I don't see the issue.

The only situation in which the examination could not go ahead is if the phases were re-winded, but that seems unlikely right now.

I stated without opinion that I would not be surprised. I am aware of the current permissible gathering limits!

andrcamp · 17-07-2020 02:31PM

Hi folks, what are people focussing on for the August sitting of EU? Trying to narrow stuff down and I hear the paper is relatively predictable!

Coulter97 · 17-07-2020 02:39PM

Does anyone have a Contract law manual? I have manuals for all other subjects that I would be willing to swap!

lawgrad15 · 17-07-2020 03:46PM

Lallers96 wrote: »

Where are people getting the information that the Tort examiner wants academic commentary in the essay questions? I have seen this nowhere included in any of the examiners reports for the last decade?

I was thinking the same to be honest. The examiner seems to get annoyed when people churn out everything they know about a topic - that's completely different to wanting academic commentary. I think his essay questions are not bad once you actually read the question properly and answer what the examiner wants rather than 'here's everything I know on defamation' or even worse 'here's my pre learned essay which just about touches on defamation'. I also did a preparation course and I cannot recall the course leader saying at any point avoid essay questions.

HappyKitten62 · 17-07-2020 03:55PM

lawgrad15 wrote: »

I was thinking the same to be honest. The examiner seems to get annoyed when people churn out everything they know about a topic - that's completely different to wanting academic commentary. I think his essay questions are not bad once you actually read the question properly and answer what the examiner wants rather than 'here's everything I know on defamation' or even worse 'here's my pre learned essay which just about touches on defamation'. I also did a preparation course and I cannot recall the course leader saying at any point avoid essay questions.

Even if you read the question and answer it directly, it’s highly likely the manual does not contain enough information for that kind of question.

Personally I don’t think academic commentary is necessary to pass. But others might. Each to their own.

lawgrad49 · 17-07-2020 04:25PM

Has anyone sitting EU got any decent notes on the Smanor case and how it relates to wholly internal situations for a question on Free Movement of goods? If so, could you send me a PM.

The Examiner has referenced this case in his last 2 exam reports so its obvs important but my manual doesn't have anything on it at all. I've googled it a bit also but can't get much information.

IgoPAP · 17-07-2020 05:31PM

Is 8 topics enough for Property? I'll be doing: Landlord and Tenant; Adverse Possession; Easements; Succession; Co-Ownership; Mortgages; Family Property; Licenses and Rights of Residence.

Too much, too less?

ihatethesea · 17-07-2020 05:41PM

Would any body have a EU Grid by any chance? I have papers and reports etc as a swap

?

Debarramike137 · 17-07-2020 06:11PM

Does anyone have exam papers/examiner reports in contract, equity or company please? can swap/pay etc.

Lallers96 · 17-07-2020 06:26PM

vid36 wrote: »

The most important questions facing students right now is whether or not the exams in August will go ahead and in what format they take. The country is stuck in Phase 3 until August 10. It will be too late to mandate alternative arrangements or online exams at that stage. Students need clarity now. Denial is not a strategy, neither is just hoping for the best.

Clarity on what? The exams are going ahead until you hear otherwise. There's nothing to clarify.

Lallers96 · 17-07-2020 06:29PM

lawgrad15 wrote: »

I was thinking the same to be honest. The examiner seems to get annoyed when people churn out everything they know about a topic - that's completely different to wanting academic commentary. I think his essay questions are not bad once you actually read the question properly and answer what the examiner wants rather than 'here's everything I know on defamation' or even worse 'here's my pre learned essay which just about touches on defamation'. I also did a preparation course and I cannot recall the course leader saying at any point avoid essay questions.

Yes which is fair enough. The examiner does not want you to ramble on and on about everything you know about occupier's liability when they have asked you to comment specifically on recreational users. That's advised in nearly every question and is one of their big pet peeves, which is completely fair because if you're answering the question generally then you haven't read the question/failed to understand it.

No offense but anyone off the street could read a law question and pick out the topic it's relating to. That doesn't show any cognitive thought or any critical analysis.

I wouldn't avoid essay questions, I highly disagree with that narrative. They are generally very straightforward. I really don't know where this narrative is about academic commentary, the manuals do not provide any and there is nothing in the examiner's reports to suggest it's required at all.

TCPIP · 18-07-2020 11:23AM

Does anybody happen to have the Spring 2020 equity paper?

JCormac · 18-07-2020 04:03PM

EU:

Doing the two August resits as wasn't going to risk sitting in March. March was dream paper for passing EU so pretty gutted about that.

Currently difficult to predict whether there'll be a General Principles question in the August paper. Kind of banking on it for my fifth question.

What are peoples thoughts re. the potential Q1 question on the upcoming paper? (Normally the General principles or Institutions question)

Louis Litt · 18-07-2020 04:12PM

JCormac wrote: »

EU:

Doing the two August resits as wasn't going to risk sitting in March. March was dream paper for passing EU so pretty gutted about that.

Currently difficult to predict whether there'll be a General Principles question in the August paper. Kind of banking on it for my fifth question.

What are peoples thoughts re. the potential Q1 question on the upcoming paper? (Normally the General principles or Institutions question)

Whar else are you covering if you don't mind me asking, what are your other 4Qs?

JCormac · 18-07-2020 04:18PM

Louis Litt wrote: »

Whar else are you covering if you don't mind me asking, what are your other 4Qs?

1) Direct Effect/Member State liability
2) Free Movement of Goods (Art 30, 110, 34)
3) Free Movement of Workers & Citizenship
4) Judicial Review (Essay)

Covering a small bit of Equality re. equal pay and also covering a bit on FMS's.

Haven't covered Institutions or the Charter of Fundamental Rights. Currently deciding between.

Louis Litt · 18-07-2020 05:42PM

JCormac wrote: »

1) Direct Effect/Member State liability
2) Free Movement of Goods (Art 30, 110, 34)
3) Free Movement of Workers & Citizenship
4) Judicial Review (Essay)

Covering a small bit of Equality re. equal pay and also covering a bit on FMS's.

Haven't covered Institutions or the Charter of Fundamental Rights. Currently deciding between.

I'd suggest covering both and general principles and the you should be fine.

lawd20 · 18-07-2020 08:12PM

Tort October 2019, Q7
Hi, Just wondering if anyone has come across this question and what they would discuss for it? I know it involves part of the law on Rescuers but am unsure how much of Medical Negligence should be included. Any insight would be great, thanks.

CarrigView · 19-07-2020 07:55PM

Looking for an up to date EU grid if someone would be so kind? Have quite a bit to trade in exchange if needs be

Debarramike137 · 19-07-2020 08:30PM

anyone got March 2020 Constitutional paper for swap please? DM me.

ruby1998 · 19-07-2020 09:53PM

Does anyone know what came up in Contract in March 2020? Thanks in advance

19-07-2020 11:49PM

Anyone inquire about the October sittings?

Iso_123 · 20-07-2020 11:11AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Can I ask what essay you have learned off?

I am just going to learn an essay for limitations off as a back up answer!

sunnylegal · 20-07-2020 12:15PM

EU law - goods question

What’s the difference between Comm v Greece (luxury cars) and Humblot?

Coopie · 21-07-2020 11:54AM

Can anyone tell me how much is the going rate for a trainee solicitor in Cork? I’m trying to decide whether it would be viable for me to do my traineeship full time. Thanks a million!

May I also ask are people finding it a challenge to get a traineeship in Cork at the moment? I hope
To start the Hybrid Course in December- I wonder have I left it too late to look.

Thanks!

Lallers96 · 21-07-2020 12:15PM

I know people's primary focus is the August sittings but someone has raised a good question that has been on the back of my mind for a while now, especially as someone who's only beginning the FE1s. Do people think the October sitting will be going ahead in October?

My opinion is just that I have no idea but I think with only about 6 weeks between this August sitting and the usual time of early October it seems too short a time for them to write up exam papers? Virus aside I just wonder will it be in a later month than October, maybe November? Or is that wishful thinking on my part

Supermax1988 · 21-07-2020 12:20PM

Lallers96 wrote: »

I know people's primary focus is the August sittings but someone has raised a good question that has been on the back of my mind for a while now, especially as someone who's only beginning the FE1s. Do people think the October sitting will be going ahead in October?

My opinion is just that I have no idea but I think with only about 6 weeks between this August sitting and the usual time of early October it seems too short a time for them to write up exam papers? Virus aside I just wonder will it be in a later month than October, maybe November? Or is that wishful thinking on my part

They better have the exams in October. That's what I'm working towards anyways. It's only two exams in August. In 2014 they had Spring sittings in March and April for all 8 exams so there should be no problem for them to set an extra paper.

Iso_123 · 21-07-2020 01:59PM

I was wondering if anyone who is sitting tort could give me their opinion on the topics that I am covering as I want to make sure I am doing enough/the right variety because as usual i am freaking out that I haven't covered enough! I have covered the following topics;

Land torts (rylands nuisance and trespass)
Negligence
Pure economic loss
Nervous shock
Intentional torts/trespass to person
Vicarious liability
Employers liability
Product liability
Professional negligence
Defamation
Passing off
Occupiers liability

I was planning on trying to learn an essay for limitations as well because that seems likely to come up?? But struggling with it to be honest

Louis Litt · 21-07-2020 02:30PM

Iso_123 wrote: »

I was wondering if anyone who is sitting tort could give me their opinion on the topics that I am covering as I want to make sure I am doing enough/the right variety because as usual i am freaking out that I haven't covered enough! I have covered the following topics;

Land torts (rylands nuisance and trespass)
Negligence
Pure economic loss
Nervous shock
Intentional torts/trespass to person
Vicarious liability
Employers liability
Product liability
Professional negligence
Defamation
Passing off
Occupiers liability

I was planning on trying to learn an essay for limitations as well because that seems likely to come up?? But struggling with it to be honest

I'm covering the same with the exception of Prof Neg and i've added Damages. Going to have short bit on Limitations as Res Ispa also.
Who knows what i'll end up with though when inevitably start cutting topics

Iso_123 · 21-07-2020 02:58PM

Louis Litt wrote: »

I'm covering the same with the exception of Prof Neg and i've added Damages. Going to have short bit on Limitations as Res Ispa also.
Who knows what i'll end up with though when inevitably start cutting topics

Thanks for the reply I feel a bit better about those topics now:)

Coulter97 · 21-07-2020 03:59PM

What can I reasonably hope to cut out? Tort topics I'm revising:

Ordinary Negligence
Causation/Remoteness
Standard/Duty of Care
Res Ipsa Loquitor
Medical Negligence
Product Liability
Nervous Shock
Employers Liability
Occupiers Liability
Vicarious Liability
Defamation
Nuisance/Rylands
Damages
Limitation Period

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