Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

ceadaoin. · 14-07-2020 05:37PM

s1ippy wrote: »

That's an absurdly inaccurate statistic.

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/health/coronavirus-new-research-points-to-lasting-heart-and-lung-damage-1.1048678

1 in 8 are left with severe heart damage

1 in 5 have heart complications requiring permanent medical intervention.

These are the people who previously had no issues with their organs. Even those who have no symptoms of covid are at risk of these internal injuries.

That article is full of the following phrases: "may cause", "findings suggest", "can cause" etc. Its far from certain so to present it as fact that 1 in 5 have heart damage is wrong . They even note that the flu and other viral illnesses can cause the exact same issues.

stephenjmcd · 14-07-2020 05:39PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

So under reporting at the weekend affect is real? Or is this just a once off Monday. I’d agree it’s weird. We’ll know more tomorrow I guess.

To be honest at this stage I've no idea about a weekend lag, up until recently it looked like deaths had a lag yes, cases not so much but since Saturday the daily postives added and daily confirmed cases announced haven't equaled and they've been out by a bit.

Will probably have to wait for the county data tomorrow and Thursday

Eod100 · 14-07-2020 05:39PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

FYI the Killarney originating cluster is reported now at 14 cases.

Whoever that was that went while waiting for the result should be locked up.

Shocking. Or at very least pay the GP, tests costs for every one of them

linguist · 14-07-2020 05:39PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

FYI the Killarney originating cluster is reported now at 14 cases.

Whoever that was that went while waiting for the result should be locked up.

Where did you find that data, Stephen?

Utopia Parkway · 14-07-2020 05:39PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

FYI the Killarney originating cluster is reported now at 14 cases.

Whoever that was that went while waiting for the result should be locked up.

Mind boggling selfishness.

Jim_Hodge · 14-07-2020 05:40PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Does anyone here know why the Tuesday number of cases seem to be a bit higher than other days ? There is a bit of a trend with Tuesdays. Is it the weekend kind of delaying reporting and so Tuesday is the day when it kind of catches up or is it something else ? I'm just curious as to who this seems to happen.

Have at look at the actual figures for the past three Tuesdays. Your premise doesn't hold at all

is_that_so · 14-07-2020 05:41PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

That article is full of the following phrases: "may cause", "findings suggest", "can cause" etc. Its far from certain so to present it as fact that 1 in 5 have heart damage is wrong . They even note that the flu and other viral illnesses can cause the exact same issues.

It is one of the problems of "studies", especially data-driven ones. They are often guessing. Academics are also not very well-versed in PR and some of them get excited, can talk up their conclusions and get caught out by quotes.

Away With The Fairies · 14-07-2020 05:42PM

Another business stepping up and not taking Americans

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4194926113883399&id=167852429924141

is_that_so · 14-07-2020 05:42PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Mind boggling selfishness.

Mind boggling stupidity is more apt.

is_that_so · 14-07-2020 05:43PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Another business stepping up and not taking Americans

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4194926113883399&id=167852429924141

The Internet remembers ...

Eod100 · 14-07-2020 05:46PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Another business stepping up and not taking Americans

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4194926113883399&id=167852429924141

Thought other businesses were refusing to take anyone who hasn't self isolated for 14 days? Hotels are different because presumably could self isolate there. Presume its anyone from America too as opposed to just Americans.

Dante7 · 14-07-2020 05:47PM

I think this is the first time that we have gone three days without a death.

Itssoeasy · 14-07-2020 05:48PM

Dante7 wrote: »

I think this is the first time that we have gone three days without a death.

Well that's a good trend to be on. I know we had some days last week with no deaths but I don't think it was three in a row, there was a break.

Stheno · 14-07-2020 05:50PM

is_that_so wrote: »

The Internet remembers ...

Is that yer man with the cafe who hates vegans?

ShineOn7 · 14-07-2020 05:54PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Another business stepping up and not taking Americans

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=4194926113883399&id=167852429924141

That's really well written by them. hopefully more hotels follow

There's a growing sentiment on Reddit Ireland too that if our "Government" don't step up then we'll have to simply be obnoxious to all American tourists we meet and make it clear they're not welcome here

No "Cead Mile Failte" for them this year. More along the lines of "Could you Mind Fcuking off, thanks"

fritzelly · 14-07-2020 05:55PM

Stheno wrote: »

Is that yer man with the cafe who hates vegans?

Yup

Eod100 · 14-07-2020 05:56PM

Stheno wrote: »

Is that yer man with the cafe who hates vegans?

It's yer man who's mad for the publicity alright. Say this is another PR stunt from them

is_that_so · 14-07-2020 05:59PM

Stheno wrote: »

Is that yer man with the cafe who hates vegans?

No idea, it's in Phibsboro. "Victorian Vibe in a Quiet Hood" they claim. Seems to be explicitly targeting millennials. There's an awful lot of gibberish on their site.

14-07-2020 06:00PM

I don’t follow this as closely anymore, the hysteria drives me mad.

Am I right in saying that we have doubled the number of tests we are doing compared to just a few weeks ago?

The positivity rate is actually around the same? Just more tests and finding cases which is better than not finding them.

Away With The Fairies · 14-07-2020 06:00PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Thought other businesses were refusing to take anyone who hasn't self isolated for 14 days? Hotels are different because presumably could self isolate there. Presume its anyone from America too as opposed to just Americans.

You're not really self isolating when you go off for food in a hotel or use hotel facilities.

And you're still free to come and go from a hotel because it's not mandatory quarantine.

Eod100 · 14-07-2020 06:01PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

That's really well written by them. hopefully more hotels follow

There's a growing sentiment on Reddit Ireland too that if our "Government" don't step up then we'll have to simply be obnoxious to all American tourists we meet and make it clear they're not welcome here

No "Cead Mile Failte" for them this year. More along the lines of "Could you Mind Fcuking off, thanks"

NPHET warned against that as obviously can't tell if someone is living here or a tourist who has already self-isolated. I'm frustrated with government lax approach but don't think that's right either. If they're here already, they're either aware of rules and don't care or aren't aware. That's why I think authorities need to do more.

ACitizenErased · 14-07-2020 06:01PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don’t follow this as closely anymore, the hysteria drives me mad.

Am I right in saying that we have doubled the number of tests we are doing compared to just a few weeks ago?

The positivity rate is actually around the same? Just more tests and finding cases which is better than not finding them.

You could say that yes, the positivity rate is the exact same

Away With The Fairies · 14-07-2020 06:01PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

That's really well written by them. hopefully more hotels follow

There's a growing sentiment on Reddit Ireland too that if our "Government" don't step up then we'll have to simply be obnoxious to all American tourists we meet and make it clear they're not welcome here

No "Cead Mile Failte" for them this year. More along the lines of "Could you Mind Fcuking off, thanks"

Let them get off the planes and have a few nights on the streets.

dj jarvis · 14-07-2020 06:04PM

Onesea wrote: »

Governments spend x4 months telling people masks are not needed.. Then masks are needed by law on public transport.
Varadkar tweets numbers have been overinflated by 59 percent.
The fact that this virus barely effects the young and healthy should ring through to you.
I'm flying to Ireland in a week, I look forward to heading out on the lash.

not going to get into with you, talking ****e, ignoring the fact that IT DOES affect young and healthy, but yea **** the old and sick, or the young and sick or just the sick.
dont bother coming on a holiday - gimps like you are not needed here now.

Micky 32 · 14-07-2020 06:04PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

You're not really self isolating when you go off for food in a hotel or use hotel .

Looking at the guidlines it doesn’t say self isolation, it’s changed to restrict your movements for 14 days. You can shop and still go out for exercise but you have to keep distance from people.

Eod100 · 14-07-2020 06:04PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

You're not really self isolating when you go off for food in a hotel or use hotel facilities.

And you're still free to come and go from a hotel because it's not mandatory quarantine.

Yeah you'd have to get food served up in your room.

It's their business' decision but I can't see it making much difference. Wonder how they're going to enforce? Ask every booking have they traveled from US or other countries?

MickeyLeari · 14-07-2020 06:07PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Let them get off the planes and have a few nights on the streets.

Maybe they should be given a badge on the plane to identify them?

is_that_so · 14-07-2020 06:09PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Yeah you'd have to get food served up in your room.

It's their business' decision but I can't see it making much difference. Wonder how they're going to enforce? Ask every booking have they traveled from US or other countries?

It is but if they've taken bookings they should be the ones cancelling it on health grounds, not waiting till they show up, otherwise they deserve all the grief they may get on Trip Advisor or hotels dot com.

Zonda999 · 14-07-2020 06:11PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don’t follow this as closely anymore, the hysteria drives me mad.

Am I right in saying that we have doubled the number of tests we are doing compared to just a few weeks ago?

The positivity rate is actually around the same? Just more tests and finding cases which is better than not finding them.

We have more than doubled the tests in the first 14 days fo July versus the last 14 days of June

As you say the positivity rate has stayed the same. I have not heard once in the media about the increase in testing in this timeframe or the rate of positivity not changing

JP Liz V1 · 14-07-2020 06:12PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

FYI the Killarney originating cluster is reported now at 14 cases.

Whoever that was that went while waiting for the result should be locked up.

I thought the carrier knew they were positive but still came to Kerry to party, disgraceful, should be fined as punishment

Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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