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Madeleine McCann

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  • #2732
    TheW1zard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    splinter65 wrote: »
    What I definitely dont see any more is any of the leading amateur armchair body language consultants giving lengthy diatribes about how Gerry scratching his nose during certain questions in interviews, for example,proved his guilt beyond any reasonable doubt . Mostly because Sandra on Facebook read it in an article in the Daily Mail.
    I miss that kind of stupid.

    In fairness most links about ze german are daily mail links!
    Not that I disagree with them.


  • #2733
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    flasher0030 wrote: »
    At least the chats about the suspicious behavior of the parents has stopped. And ramblings about evidence implicating them.
    Where’s CallmeHal when you need him to throw fuel on the fire?

    Site banned for being a rereg troll.


  • #2734
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    I've been in the Tapas bar at the Ocean Club.

    Far from a 'boozer' it is.

    More in line to being a Chinese that serves bottle beer and wine with your sit in meal.

    I've never known a Chinese restaurant to be a 'boozer'.


  • #2735
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    happyoutscan wrote: »
    I've been in the Tapas bar at the Ocean Club.

    Far from a 'boozer' it is.

    More in line to being a Chinese that serves bottle beer and wine with your sit in meal.

    I've never known a Chinese restaurant to be a 'boozer'.

    Can you get drunk in the Tapas bar?


  • #2736
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    happyoutscan wrote: »
    I've been in the Tapas bar at the Ocean Club.

    Far from a 'boozer' it is.

    More in line to being a Chinese that serves bottle beer and wine with your sit in meal.

    I've never known a Chinese restaurant to be a 'boozer'.
    Yes but if you use the expression “boozer”and match it up with “out on the lash” then that paints a much more neglectful cruel picture of the McCanns then the actual reality. And if you want to make sure that the parents are portrayed as cruel and neglectful then those are the words you’ll use. Over and over and over.
    Day in and day out.
    For 13 years.
    “on the piss” is useful too.


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  • #2737
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can you get drunk in the Tapas bar?

    I’m sure you can, but it’s not obligatory.


  • #2738
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Yes but if you use the expression “boozer”and match it up with “out on the lash” then that paints a much more neglectful cruel picture of the McCanns then the actual reality. And if you want to make sure that the parents are portrayed as cruel and neglectful then those are the words you’ll use. Over and over and over.
    Day in and day out.
    For 13 years.
    “on the piss” is useful too.


    I don't think we need to paint a more neglectful picture.


    It's fairly reckless as is.


    But feel free to describe it anyway you wish. Regardless of what you call it


    The end result will be reckless negligence.


  • #2739
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    splinter65 wrote: »
    I’m sure you can, but it’s not obligatory.
    Seems lots of things were not obligatory....


  • #2740
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,124 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    limnam wrote: »
    I don't think we need to paint a more neglectful picture.


    It's fairly reckless as is.


    But feel free to describe it anyway you wish. Regardless of what you call it


    The end result will be reckless negligence.

    Well no one can accuse you of being subtle in your attempts at baiting people.


  • #2741
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can you get drunk in the Tapas bar?

    You can get drunk anywhere, doesn't make everywhere 'the boozer'.

    At least Limnam makes an effort at contributing.

    You're just here for whatever weird pleasure you get from the whole case. It's ****ing obvious at this stage.


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  • #2742
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Here read this and stop fighting on this thread, peace and love :D

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.thesun.ie/news/5651929/madeleine-mccann-cops-praia-de-luz-beaches-christian-witness/amp/


  • #2743
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    They need to check under this fellas house and search the property upside down , I thought the van was actually in evidence but it says that it was scrapped in 2017 or is it the Jag but I swore I read it was the van was in evidence and they didn’t find anything.


  • #2744
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    happyoutscan wrote: »
    You can get drunk anywhere, doesn't make everywhere 'the boozer'.

    At least Limnam makes an effort at contributing.

    You're just here for whatever weird pleasure you get from the whole case. It's ****ing obvious at this stage.
    It's a discussion forum, once I don't break the rules I can post. You can choose to ignore instead of throwing a hissy fit.
    You are correct just because you can get drunk everywhere doesn't make the outlet a 'boozer' I don't see what the relevance to getting hung up on the description of the premises. There was if memory serves me correct about 10 bottles of wine consumed by the group. That's alot of wine in a short space of time and considering they were supposed to be checking on children.


  • #2745
    Day Lewin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    One thought that occurs to me is this:

    The McCann family, and some other families, were on holidays at this resort and they took photos, as people do.

    There must have been many other holiday-makers in the area and also nearby beaches and resorts, also having holiday fun and taking photographs.

    Did the crime-solving forces of Europe ever put out an appeal -"Anyone that was on holidays there, at Praia da Luz, or in the area - that month or that year, or the year before, or afterwards - PLEASE take a close look at ALL your holiday snaps"?

    There might be a glimpse of CB in a crowd, in the background - there might be a sighting of his car, or his campervan, in a car park or a street -
    The Algarve is popular - I'm willing to bet that there are holiday snaps in a wallet or an album somewhere that could add a few scraps of information.


  • #2746
    limnam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    One thought that occurs to me is this:

    The McCann family, and some other families, were on holidays at this resort and they took photos, as people do.

    There must have been many other holiday-makers in the area and also nearby beaches and resorts, also having holiday fun and taking photographs.

    Did the crime-solving forces of Europe ever put out an appeal -"Anyone that was on holidays there, at Praia da Luz, or in the area - that month or that year, or the year before, or afterwards - PLEASE take a close look at ALL your holiday snaps"?

    There might be a glimpse of CB in a crowd, in the background - there might be a sighting of his car, or his campervan, in a car park or a street -
    The Algarve is popular - I'm willing to bet that there are holiday snaps in a wallet or an album somewhere that could add a few scraps of information.

    Something is telling me this ask went out I remember something simmilar at the time.

    But he lived in the area no ?

    Him been caught in someones holidays snaps probably won't tell us much


  • #2747
    MonsterCookie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭MonsterCookie


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    One thought that occurs to me is this:

    The McCann family, and some other families, were on holidays at this resort and they took photos, as people do.

    There must have been many other holiday-makers in the area and also nearby beaches and resorts, also having holiday fun and taking photographs.

    Did the crime-solving forces of Europe ever put out an appeal -"Anyone that was on holidays there, at Praia da Luz, or in the area - that month or that year, or the year before, or afterwards - PLEASE take a close look at ALL your holiday snaps"?

    There might be a glimpse of CB in a crowd, in the background - there might be a sighting of his car, or his campervan, in a car park or a street -
    The Algarve is popular - I'm willing to bet that there are holiday snaps in a wallet or an album somewhere that could add a few scraps of information.

    I’m pretty sure the recent and previous appeals by police forces included a request to look at holiday snaps from the time. I would hope that this might lead to some helpful leads....


  • #2748
    Day Lewin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    limnam wrote: »
    Something is telling me this ask went out I remember something simmilar at the time.

    But he lived in the area no ?

    Him been caught in someones holidays snaps probably won't tell us much

    Yes, it's a long shot. But he might have been caught in the corner of a photo, talking to someone else of interest - or to someone who was in the apartment complex - you never know: any tiny detail might help.

    and now we know about the camper - quite a distinctive appearance: and also, there is some unanswered question over the car: why would a person re-register it the very day after the crime?
    Where had it been?


  • #2749
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,124 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    One thought that occurs to me is this:

    The McCann family, and some other families, were on holidays at this resort and they took photos, as people do.

    There must have been many other holiday-makers in the area and also nearby beaches and resorts, also having holiday fun and taking photographs.

    Did the crime-solving forces of Europe ever put out an appeal -"Anyone that was on holidays there, at Praia da Luz, or in the area - that month or that year, or the year before, or afterwards - PLEASE take a close look at ALL your holiday snaps"?

    There might be a glimpse of CB in a crowd, in the background - there might be a sighting of his car, or his campervan, in a car park or a street -
    The Algarve is popular - I'm willing to bet that there are holiday snaps in a wallet or an album somewhere that could add a few scraps of information.


    Within about 3 days of Madelein's dissappearance, I sent an email to the Met suggesting they make an appeal for holiday photos taken in the resort in the days prior to her dissapearance to see if any of them might contain images in the background of potential stalkers.


  • #2750
    Day Lewin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Within about 3 days of Madelein's dissappearance, I sent an email to the Met suggesting they make an appeal for holiday photos taken in the resort in the days prior to her dissapearance to see if any of them might contain images in the background of potential stalkers.


    Brilliant, @cnocbui! We are fellow spirits!

    Did they reply?

    Let's set up a detective agency. (Only half joking!)


  • #2751
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    Yes, it's a long shot. But he might have been caught in the corner of a photo, talking to someone else of interest - or to someone who was in the apartment complex - you never know: any tiny detail might help.

    and now we know about the camper - quite a distinctive appearance: and also, there is some unanswered question over the car: why would a person re-register it the very day after the crime?
    Where had it been?

    Absolutely anyone who was on holidays there most of had a look through their photo albums or the appeal may help them jog their memories. Any little bit, gear thinking I like your thought process.


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  • #2752
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    One thing though, they were in Luz in May which is off season.

    Luz is dead as feck during the off season. Literally no one.

    That might actually be a help though if there were pictures taken.


  • #2753
    buttercups88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭buttercups88


    So the germans are claiming they had no idea about the search of the wells or what prompted the Portuguese to search them. All very very strange.


  • #2754
    Day Lewin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    buttercups88 wrote: »
    So the germans are claiming they had no idea about the search of the wells or what prompted the Portuguese to search them. All very very strange.

    That's curious...

    Have you a citation for this, please?


  • #2755
    buttercups88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭buttercups88


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    That's curious...

    Have you a citation for this, please?

    https://mol.im/a/8519779

    Wonder have the Portuguese realised they're about to be shown up for their ineptness and finally pulled a finger out...


  • #2756
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,124 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    Brilliant, @cnocbui! We are fellow spirits!

    Did they reply?

    Let's set up a detective agency. (Only half joking!)

    No reply, but I was chuffed when the call went out for photos. I also made a suggestion that they check all mobile phone usage that night and track movements, but that was before i was aware there was only one mast so triangulation wasn't possible. The also did that but, with only the checking bit and maybe some time of flight rough distance from the mast estimates.


  • #2757
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,124 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    buttercups88 wrote: »
    https://mol.im/a/8519779

    Wonder have the Portuguese realised they're about to be shown up for their ineptness and finally pulled a finger out...

    In a previous article it said the Portuguese detectives had found something, not saying what, that proved Madeline was dead. It is likely this is what has prompted the well search. Clearly if they found something it's not what the germans gave them.
    Portuguese broadcaster RTP claimed detectives have 'fundamental evidence' to be able to prove the 43-year-old German is responsible for Madeleine's disappearance.


  • #2758
    buttercups88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭buttercups88


    cnocbui wrote: »
    In a previous article it said the Portuguese detectives had found something, not saying what, that proved Madeline was dead. It is likely this is what has prompted the well search. Clearly if they found something it's not what the germans gave them.

    It was the germans that found the evidence that proved she was dead.


  • #2759
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,124 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    buttercups88 wrote: »
    It was the germans that found the evidence that proved she was dead.

    Yes, but the Portuguese press is clearly implying their detectives have also just found something, not just been given something by the Germans.
    Portuguese police have discovered 'fundamental evidence' to be able to prove suspect Christian Brueckner (right) is responsible for Madeline McCann's (left) disappearance

    From the article you linked. It was also said in the earlier article about the well searches some days ago.


  • #2760
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    buttercups88 wrote: »
    It was the germans that found the evidence that proved she was dead.

    Have they shared this evidence with the Met, JP, the McCanns?


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  • #2761
    buttercups88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭buttercups88


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Yes, but the Portuguese press is clearly implying their detectives have also just found something, not just been given something by the Germans.



    From the article you linked. It was also said in the earlier article about the well searches some days ago.


    Its all so strange you'd think now in the year 2020 it wouldn't be too difficult for police forces to liase and work together. They probably would have been able to solve it years ago if they all sat down and shared all the information they had


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