Best EV under 30k

into_the_wild · 13-07-2020 8:52pm #1

Hey guys,

Which EV do you reckon is best value for money for the sub 30k price range? Would be good to know the reasons too. Looking to purchase one soon.
Most of my journeys would be weekend getaways with camping gear etc so bootspace could be a factor for me.

Black_Knight · 13-07-2020 9:16pm

Weekend camping sounds like you'd be driving a fair distance, and arriving somewhere without a charger anywhere nearby.

Would that be right?

Options would be pretty limited I'd say.
Leaf 40 or Hyundai ioniq. EGolf too maybe

I own an ioniq. Great car, good boot, particularly with the seats down.
Can be got for 18k+ depending on the year, which is great value.
Charges fast compared to others (on faster fast chargers like ionity).
Decent range (up to 180km-230km is about a fair representation -winter/summer). Can certainly get much more range but I don't want to misrepresent what would be typical from hearing here on boards.

Laviski · 13-07-2020 9:49pm

OP you want to buy new or second hand? would better guide those in advice.

for me got a new 2020 leaf,
main reason's space for people in back, decent boot space, USB slots front and back,i like the interior/layout and all round good city car.
Took a lot of long trips recently, when on a crap roads of Ireland my range this summer is easily 250km. However the big downside to that is when going motorway it just destroys the battery going 110/120 km/h. so 100km/h seems optimal. Done double chademo charges on same day with those long drives and battery temp was just over half, not as impactful others have said on boards so maybe it was a bigger issue on the older versions...
Another thing i don't like about the leaf is the app and the crap servers nissan provide, its nice when it works but would like it to be a bit more responsive than it is but at the end of the day its small thing for how irregular i'd use it. Nice for checking on stats n stuff, i winter probably more for preheating when i forget to set it.

yes i looked at the others, new ionic was too expensive but was yum. Renault and Peugeot i just didn't like overall layout and issue with space in back and the boot.

into_the_wild · 13-07-2020 9:49pm

Black_Knight wrote: »

Weekend camping sounds like you'd be driving a fair distance, and arriving somewhere without a charger anywhere nearby.

Would that be right?

Options would be pretty limited I'd say.
Leaf 40 or Hyundai ioniq. EGolf too maybe

I own an ioniq. Great car, good boot, particularly with the seats down.
Can be got for 18k+ depending on the year, which is great value.
Charges fast compared to others (on faster fast chargers like ionity).
Decent range (up to 180km-230km is about a fair representation -winter/summer). Can certainly get much more range but I don't want to misrepresent what would be typical from hearing here on boards.

Thanks. Yeah looking for something I can drive a fair distance on weekends. Most campsites usually provide an electric point so charging the EV shouldn't be a problem hopefully.
I test drove the nissan leaf 40 today and it seemed nice. Will have a look at hyundai ioniq too this week.
Any idea if the egolf is gonna be defunct in terms of resalability once ID.3 becomes mainstream? The ID.3 seems quite nice from what I read online.

into_the_wild · 13-07-2020 9:52pm

Laviski wrote: »

OP you want to buy new or second hand? would better guide those in advice.

for me got a new 2020 leaf,
main reason's space for people in back, decent boot space, USB slots front and back,i like the interior/layout and all round good city car.
Took a lot of long trips recently, when on a crap roads of Ireland my range this summer is easily 250km. However the big downside to that is when going motorway it just destroys the battery going 110/120 km/h. so 100km/h seems optimal. Done double chademo charges on same day with those long drives and battery temp was just over half, not as impactful others have said on boards so maybe it was a bigger issue on the older versions...
Another thing i don't like about the leaf is the app and the crap servers nissan provide, its nice when it works but would like it to be a bit more responsive than it is but at the end of the day its small thing for how irregular i'd use it. Nice for checking on stats n stuff, i winter probably more for preheating when i forget to set it.

yes i looked at the others, new ionic was too expensive but was yum. Renault and Peugeot i just didn't like overall layout and issue with space in back and the boot.

Thanks. I don't mind a second hand as long as it has good range. But yeah for argument's sake I guess we can focus on the new cars

KCross · 13-07-2020 9:55pm

anisharora85 wrote: »

Thanks. Yeah looking for something I can drive a fair distance on weekends.

You’ll need to be more sure of this to avoid disappointment. A “fair distance” could be anything.

Range is the key thing with EVs so get that right and then it’s down to things like looks and features which is personal opinion.

Laviski · 13-07-2020 9:56pm

if second hand and time is on your side, look out for telsa's and if UK import remember January UK are out of EU.

Laviski · 13-07-2020 10:01pm

KCross wrote: »

You’ll need to be more sure of this to avoid disappointment. A “fair distance” could be anything.

Range is the key thing with EVs so get that right and then it’s down to things like looks and features which is personal opinion.

couldn't agree more on this, best to state your range/use case for driving on a daily/weekly basis.

city/short commutes.
medium commutes.
long commutes.

my use case (and opinion) for my leaf is city driving and the odd excursion at weekends. since my estimated range is at 280km on full charge i do need to plot and plan those journeys (taking into account motorways affect the range) and where i'm going to charge. if planning to drive to the corners of Ireland leaf isn't ideal unless you like taking breaks.

zg3409 · 13-07-2020 10:52pm

What is your daily commute? If its short you won't really save anything on fuel. Trips beyond the range if an EV are typically stressful and risky. Often 50kW chargers are busy broken or blocked so you need to allow for that and fill up before 0%. As a result on long trips you need to stop every 100km or 150km to fill up for 30+ minutes, to go another 100/150km. This is the main downside of an EV with a 30/40kWh battery. If you had a 100km round trip daily commute it would make sense but buying an EV with a small battery for regular long trips os a bad idea. As for charging at camp sites some if these caravan power hook ups will trip if you draw typical EV charging power as they need to limit the power drawn by all caravans at peak times, so it may not work as you expect.

Ryath · 13-07-2020 10:58pm

anisharora85 wrote: »

Thanks. Yeah looking for something I can drive a fair distance on weekends. Most campsites usually provide an electric point so charging the EV shouldn't be a problem hopefully.
I test drove the nissan leaf 40 today and it seemed nice. Will have a look at hyundai ioniq too this week.
Any idea if the egolf is gonna be defunct in terms of resalability once ID.3 becomes mainstream? The ID.3 seems quite nice from what I read online.

Wouldn't count on campsites for a EHU to charge most are 16amp but a lot are 10amp which is at the limit for a granny cable and some are even only 5amp.

Leaf is good size alright but I reckon the Ioniq edges it on usable boot space. Leaf 40 has slightly better range but the Ioniq 28 is more efficient and charges faster so over a longer trip is actually quicker.

Are you camping with just 1 or 2 or with a family? Big difference in requirements. If it's just 1 or 2 Corsa e or e208 are worth looking at. If it's with a family who want all the luxuries Audi etron or Tesla Model S/X are about the only ones big enough and a bit over budget. Our family tent alone fills nearly half the space of my 710l boot! By myself I can fit everything I need on a bike!

Mitsubishi Outlander plugin hybrid would be worth considering if you need something bigger, cover ypur commute on electric during the week and you have petrol for range at the weekend.

Daily KM requirements and how far you actually want to go at weekends are really needed.

Don't think eGolf values are going to drop, all used EVs are going to be in demand in coming years and the eGolf is pretty desirable.

into_the_wild · 13-07-2020 11:05pm

Well my work commute would most likely continue to be cycling or public transport. So only looking at weekend trips around Ireland. I guess the total distance would be anywhere between 200-600 kms.
Do you guys find the ESB charging stations around the country a hassle or unreliable to use?
Good point on the campsite limiting the power supply on their electric hookups. Didnt think of that to be honest.

into_the_wild · 13-07-2020 11:29pm

Ryath wrote: »

Wouldn't count on campsites for a EHU to charge most are 16amp but a lot are 10amp which is at the limit for a granny cable and some are even only 5amp.

Leaf is good size alright but I reckon the Ioniq edges it on usable boot space. Leaf 40 has slightly better range but the Ioniq 28 is more efficient and charges faster so over a longer trip is actually quicker.

Are you camping with just 1 or 2 or with a family? Big difference in requirements. If it's just 1 or 2 Corsa e or e208 are worth looking at. If it's with a family who want all the luxuries Audi etron or Tesla Model S/X are about the only ones big enough and a bit over budget. Our family tent alone fills nearly half the space of my 710l boot! By myself I can fit everything I need on a bike!

Mitsubishi Outlander plugin hybrid would be worth considering if you need something bigger, cover ypur commute on electric during the week and you have petrol for range at the weekend.

Daily KM requirements and how far you actually want to go at weekends are really needed.

Don't think eGolf values are going to drop, all used EVs are going to be in demand in coming years and the eGolf is pretty desirable.

Most of the times its just going to be myself with 1-2 more people.
So far I have shortlisted these around the 30k range:

Nissan leaf - 40 kw
Hyundai ioniq - 38 kw
VW egolf - 38 kw
Peugot 508 - 50 kw
Renault Zoe - 52 kw
VW ID.3 - 58 kw

I might just wait for the ID.3 as it is going to have a much better driving range and VW has a better name in the market as compared to the likes of Peugots or Renaults.

Markcheese · 13-07-2020 11:55pm

Zoe 50, is probably the best new car in your price range ..
It's got a surprisingly big boot too ...
I wouldn't worry too much about range for long distance camping trips , plan on a shortish fast charge/ toilet stop just before you leave the motorways / dual carraigeway , then you should have loads of range on more local roads , most towns have some some form of charging ,
And the Zoe can charge more quickly than most at a regular charger ...

into_the_wild · 14-07-2020 12:04am

Markcheese wrote: »

Zoe 50, is probably the best new car in your price range ..
It's got a surprisingly big boot too ...
I wouldn't worry too much about range for long distance camping trips , plan on a shortish fast charge/ toilet stop just before you leave the motorways / dual carraigeway , then you should have loads of range on more local roads , most towns have some some form of charging ,
And the Zoe can charge more quickly than most at a regular charger ...

Cool! Will take a test drive then ðŸ˜Š
I guess I'm just a bit wary of Renault/Peugeot in case there is a quality difference as compared to Volkswagens & Hyundais.

Markcheese · 14-07-2020 1:07am

I don't know much about the Peugeot, ( and it's fairly new anyway ,) but the Zoe is supposedly pretty decent, I'm sure there's some sort of reliability comparison online if you google
it ,

You're not going to get a new id3, new leaf or a Hyundai for anywhere near 30 grand

Markcheese · 14-07-2020 1:11am

I tell a lie , just checked and a leaf sv 40 is on the road for just less than 31 grand. .. I better check the others too I suppose ..

Black_Knight · 14-07-2020 7:31am

Markcheese wrote: »

Zoe 50, is probably the best new car in your price range ..
It's got a surprisingly big boot too ...
I wouldn't worry too much about range for long distance camping trips , plan on a shortish fast charge/ toilet stop just before you leave the motorways / dual carraigeway , then you should have loads of range on more local roads , most towns have some some form of charging ,
And the Zoe can charge more quickly than most at a regular charger ...

Does the Zoe 50 have fast ac charging? Thought that went when they switched to CCS.

Black_Knight · 14-07-2020 7:34am

anisharora85 wrote: »

Most of the times its just going to be myself with 1-2 more people.
So far I have shortlisted these around the 30k range:

Nissan leaf - 40 kw
Hyundai ioniq - 38 kw
VW egolf - 38 kw
Peugot 508 - 50 kw
Renault Zoe - 52 kw
VW ID.3 - 58 kw

I might just wait for the ID.3 as it is going to have a much better driving range and VW has a better name in the market as compared to the likes of Peugots or Renaults.

At 200-600km drives of rule out the original ioniq due to range, and the new ioniq due to range and slower charging speeds.
Probably rule out the leaf and golf too.

Id3 1st might be a decent option, but it's over budget.

Busman Paddy Lasty · 14-07-2020 8:07am

Black_Knight wrote: »

Does the Zoe 50 have fast ac charging? Thought that went when they switched to CCS.

Can still charge at 22 kW according to an Electrek article, which is brilliant for camping trips near a town with AC charge points.

To the OP, I have been camping in an EV and I wouldn't rely on campsite sockets. Have used a 10 amp socket but it did trip it's breaker at around 9am. Presumably when camper vans and caravans used kettles etc. The Kia 3 pin cable can be clamped at 6, 8 or 10A but I'm not sure if other EVs 3 pin cables can do this.

I can't see any car big enough, with enough range and 22 kW AC charging other than the Zoe 50 for you're budget. If there is one I'd like to know too.

into_the_wild · 14-07-2020 8:32am

Busman Paddy Lasty wrote: »

Can still charge at 22 kW according to an Electrek article, which is brilliant for camping trips near a town with AC charge points.

To the OP, I have been camping in an EV and I wouldn't rely on campsite sockets. Have used a 10 amp socket but it did trip it's breaker at around 9am. Presumably when camper vans and caravans used kettles etc. The Kia 3 pin cable can be clamped at 6, 8 or 10A but I'm not sure if other EVs 3 pin cables can do this.

I can't see any car big enough, with enough range and 22 kW AC charging other than the Zoe 50 for you're budget. If there is one I'd like to know too.

Looks like it's going to be a choice between Peugeot 508 and Renault Zoe. Will google out some comparison online.
The ID3 is going to be atleast 35k so I guess I might skip that one.

stesaurus · 14-07-2020 8:49am

Have a look at the MG ZS also. You'd easily land one for under 30k and would have a lot more space and toys than the Zoe.
Problem is you'd have to import it as there's no dealers here.

Lantus · 14-07-2020 8:50am

As an alternative you could get a 2017 petrol octavia for 16 to 17k. Huge boot and roof bar ready. A perfect camping machine and comfy for long motorway drives.

You won't need to stop to charge so you maximise every second of that precious weekend time.

Your only using at weekends so fuel costs are not really an issue.

What's the driver for the ev solution??

Busman Paddy Lasty · 14-07-2020 8:58am

anisharora85 wrote: »

Looks like it's going to be a choice between Peugeot 508 and Renault Zoe. Will google out some comparison online.
The ID3 is going to be atleast 35k so I guess I might skip that one.

See if the Peugeot has an option for 11 kW charging and 7 kW single phase for home charging. For your use case I can't stress the value of 22 kW AC charging. There's like over 1,000 AC charge points but less than 100 DC fast charge points on the eCars network.

Mayfield services eCars fast charger gave me 22 kWh in 44 minutes recently, brutal. You could get that in an hour at over 1,000 spots around the country with 22 kW AC on-board charging. No queing for fast charge points like the rest of us! The first time I called in to Mayfield the whole site had no power and I couldn't buy hot food let alone charge.

I'd pay a lot for a 22 kW AC upgrade for eNiro if it ever came available. Maybe other EV drivers with 22 kW on-board can offer their opinion.

Check the eCars map and set the filter for AC charge points only. Places like Bantry, Kilorglan, Grange (Sligo), Ballyshannon, Donegal, Carlingford, Laytown and Waterford I've either used or are on the shortlist but I'm only getting about 50km range during per hour stop approx 11% of battery. Zoe 50 could get almost 50% battery in that same 1 hour stop.

into_the_wild · 14-07-2020 9:16am

stesaurus wrote: »

Have a look at the MG ZS also. You'd easily land one for under 30k and would have a lot more space and toys than the Zoe.
Problem is you'd have to import it as there's no dealers here.

Don't want to go for a chinese EV I guess.

Lantus wrote: »

As an alternative you could get a 2017 petrol octavia for 16 to 17k. Huge boot and roof bar ready. A perfect camping machine and comfy for long motorway drives.

You won't need to stop to charge so you maximise every second of that precious weekend time.

Your only using at weekends so fuel costs are not really an issue.

What's the driver for the ev solution??

Only looking at zero emission options. I know its more practical to have a hybrid or a petrol car but I guess it's more of a personal choice

Busman Paddy Lasty wrote: »

See if the Peugeot has an option for 11 kW charging and 7 kW single phase for home charging. For your use case I can't stress the value of 22 kW AC charging. There's like over 1,000 AC charge points but less than 100 DC fast charge points on the eCars network.

Mayfield services eCars fast charger gave me 22 kWh in 44 minutes recently, brutal. You could get that in an hour at over 1,000 spots around the country with 22 kW AC on-board charging. No queing for fast charge points like the rest of us! The first time I called in to Mayfield the whole site had no power and I couldn't buy hot food let alone charge.

I'd pay a lot for a 22 kW AC upgrade for eNiro if it ever came available. Maybe other EV drivers with 22 kW on-board can offer their opinion.

Check the eCars map and set the filter for AC charge points only. Places like Bantry, Kilorglan, Grange (Sligo), Ballyshannon, Donegal, Carlingford, Laytown and Waterford I've either used or are on the shortlist but I'm only getting about 50km range during per hour stop approx 11% of battery. Zoe 50 could get almost 50% battery in that same 1 hour stop.

Ah cool so the AC charging options are what I should look for. Thanks for that useful info. I'm an EV newbie so didn't know all this

KCross · 14-07-2020 9:47am

Busman Paddy Lasty wrote: »

See if the Peugeot has an option for 11 kW charging and 7 kW single phase for home charging.

I don’t think the e208 can do this. You have to pick one or the other. If you pick 11kW you only get 3.6kW then at home.

Laviski · 14-07-2020 10:35am

i think its starting to become obvious that maybe new EV (circa 30k) isn't going to cater for your needs.

I think you would be best to get a second hand model S or stick with your current petrol diesel option for another year or two.

into_the_wild · 14-07-2020 10:54am

Laviski wrote: »

i think its starting to become obvious that maybe new EV (circa 30k) isn't going to cater for your needs.

I think you would be best to get a second hand model S or stick with your current petrol diesel option for another year or two.

From what I gathered so far, Zoe 50 and Peugeot e-208 might just do the trick unless I'm missing something?

Busman Paddy Lasty · 14-07-2020 2:10pm

anisharora85 wrote: »

Don't want to go for a chinese EV I guess.

Only looking at zero emission options. I know its more practical to have a hybrid or a petrol car but I guess it's more of a personal choice

Ah cool so the AC charging options are what I should look for. Thanks for that useful info. I'm an EV newbie so didn't know all this

Well both AC and DC options. And by AC I mean 22 kW charging on any car that has it available. Zoe 50 might be too small and I think CCS is a paid extra. Zoe or Tesla threads might be more helpful too.

I would probably buy a second hand Outlander or rent a GoCar van if I was in your shoes to be honest.

JPA · 14-07-2020 2:16pm

You need to make a list of must haves and would like OP.
The only thing a Tesla and a Zoe have in common is good AC charging speed. They are opposite ends of the EV spectrum.

slave1 · 14-07-2020 2:19pm

I'd wait 12months for Tesla Model S 2015 era to reach your price point versus getting an Outlander now.
The Model S will tick all your boxes, you will also be able to charge directly off campsite blue connector with adapter.
See here, it's mentioned when you expand Tesla Mobile Connector

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/support/charging-connectors?redirect=no

slave1 · 14-07-2020 2:24pm

Actually here it is, €50 for either 16amp (3.7kW charge) or 32amp (7.4kW charge)

https://shop.tesla.com/en_ie/product/blue-adapter---16a_32a-

irishgrover · 14-07-2020 2:57pm

if you are spending < 30k then it will probably be limited to a leaf40 ,ioniq 28, egolf or i3.
If you need more than 4 seats the i3 is out
If it was me I would go between the lead and the ioniq (given very limited availability of egolf.

If I was doing mostly local non motorway driving and doing the vast majority of my driving without needing public chargers I would consider leaf
If I was doing longer distances, regular motorway speeds and relying on fast chargers I would go for the Ioniq (better access to chargers, faster charging, better battery mgt at speed, similar rage at high speed)

In your use case I would just suggest taking both for a drive and seeing which you prefer to drive as both cars should met your criteria.

If you can get your hands on an imported Ioniq premium SE it has better spec than the standard irish model (which is also well spec'ed)

into_the_wild · 14-07-2020 3:04pm

irishgrover wrote: »

if you are spending < 30k then it will probably be limited to a leaf40 ,ioniq 28, egolf or i3.
If you need more than 4 seats the i3 is out
If it was me I would go between the lead and the ioniq (given very limited availability of egolf.

If I was doing mostly local non motorway driving and doing the vast majority of my driving without needing public chargers I would consider leaf
If I was doing longer distances, regular motorway speeds and relying on fast chargers I would go for the Ioniq (better access to chargers, faster charging, better battery mgt at speed, similar rage at high speed)

In your use case I would just suggest taking both for a drive and seeing which you prefer to drive as both cars should met your criteria.

If you can get your hands on an imported Ioniq premium SE it has better spec than the standard irish model (which is also well spec'ed)

I don't want to go for anything below 50 KWh range. The base model on Zoe 50 is 27k euro so I might go for it. Seems to have good features and decent space for camping trips (2-3 people)

Black_Knight · 14-07-2020 3:25pm

anisharora85 wrote: »

I don't want to go for anything below 50 KWh range. The base model on Zoe 50 is 27k euro so I might go for it. Seems to have good features and decent space for camping trips (2-3 people)

50kWh battery all depends on how efficient the car is. Bjorn did an ioniq vs peugeot race (granted the peugeot acted up a bit during it) and they were pretty evenly matched. The Peugeots big battery, but inefficiency at higher speeds balanced out with the ioniqs smaller battery but higher efficiency.

Markcheese · 14-07-2020 11:34pm

anisharora85 wrote: »

I don't want to go for anything below 50 KWh range. The base model on Zoe 50 is 27k euro so I might go for it. Seems to have good features and decent space for camping trips (2-3 people)

Book a test drive in the Zoe , best way for you to get a feel for the size / space ,
( I've no idea how test drives work at the moment )

into_the_wild · 15-07-2020 12:11am

Markcheese wrote: »

Book a test drive in the Zoe , best way for you to get a feel for the size / space ,
( I've no idea how test drives work at the moment )

I actually did one on leaf yesterday. Nothing's changed in terms of procedure.

irishgrover · 15-07-2020 9:58am

anisharora85 wrote: »

I don't want to go for anything below 50 KWh range. The base model on Zoe 50 is 27k euro so I might go for it. Seems to have good features and decent space for camping trips (2-3 people)

you are of course correct, totally forgot about the Zeo 50 base being so inexpensive. I've never heard a Zeo owner complain about a Zeo. Also the new one has CCS, which is great (and imho one of the bigger drawbacks of the leafs)
If it's big enough for you then thats a good option.
If you are in no hurry you might get a good deal on a high spec demo in a few months towards the end of the year.

Zenith74 · 15-07-2020 8:02pm

I know you say under €32k, but the Leaf e+ (62kWh) is getting quite close to that now, a few on autotrader (UK) for €32k. A couple of months and some hard bargaining will privacy get you one for €30k.

Any chance of getting your employer to buy one for you and benefit from the 0% BIK?

zg3409 · 15-07-2020 10:16pm

anisharora85 wrote: »

I don't want to go for anything below 50 KWh range. The base model on Zoe 50 is 27k euro so I might go for it. Seems to have good features and decent space for camping trips (2-3 people)

Zoe is tiny, CCS charging is an optional extra on base model. 22kW Max is base model as far as I know which is problematic if you want to go beyond the range and get back, so 22kW vs 70kW or 50kW Ioniq charging rate. That means 1 hour charging vs 30 minutes mid trip. A 50kWh battery on 22kW charging will take 2+ hours to fill up when low, possibly 3 hours.

Lantus · 16-07-2020 12:03pm

anisharora85 wrote: »

Only looking at zero emission options. I know its more practical to have a hybrid or a petrol car but I guess it's more of a personal choice

Fair enough. For your requirements there will be some compromise at that price point I feel but it's possible. Let us know how it goes whatever the outcome and feedback on your experience.

sekond · 16-07-2020 4:25pm

I'm reviving this because, things got stalled over Christmas and then lockdown happened and various life things. All of which means I'm only just now getting around to doing some serious looking. The Corolla is still ticking along, but suspect it might need some work soon, so the need to pick a new car is becoming a bit more urgent.

Looking around a bit, it looks like there might be some other options for me now (still looking at around 30,000). The Corsa e seems about the size I'm looking for. It seems like it might be a good alternative option to the Leaf 40 now?

I'll be starting to try to get rest drives over the next couple of weeks and hoping the Corolla lasts long enough for me to make my decision!

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liamog · 16-07-2020 4:52pm

For under 30k in Ireland from new leaves you with

e208
Corsa-e
Zoe 50
Leaf 40
Mini Cooper SE

The e208 and Corsa E are basically the same, the Mini has a smaller battery but a much more upmarket interior and drive feel. Generally I recommend the e208 or Corsa for this price segment, but have ordered a Mini myself, because I think it's a much nicer car.

eagerv · 16-07-2020 5:01pm

sekond wrote: »

I'm reviving this because, things got stalled over Christmas and then lockdown happened and various life things. All of which means I'm only just now getting around to doing some serious looking. The Corolla is still ticking along, but suspect it might need some work soon, so the need to pick a new car is becoming a bit more urgent.

Looking around a bit, it looks like there might be some other options for me now (still looking at around 30,000). The Corsa e seems about the size I'm looking for. It seems like it might be a good alternative option to the Leaf 40 now?

I'll be starting to try to get rest drives over the next couple of weeks and hoping the Corolla lasts long enough for me to make my decision!

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The only advice I would give is to try and hold off for a little while longer and try and nurse your Corolla along for a bit longer, don't they last for ever?:pac:

It looks as though Volkswagen are aiming to sell a lot of EVs with ordering perhaps starting in as little as a week for deliveries later in year/early 2021. It looks as though a basic ID3 may be available from perhaps 28-30K.
This aggressive pricing will no doubt effect all other EV prices even if you have no interest in the ID3.

Markcheese · 17-07-2020 10:37am

I forgot to ask ,what are you currently driving ( that's to O.P. "into the wild "
And how do you find it size wise ?

Zenith74 · 17-07-2020 11:24am

sekond wrote: »

I'm reviving this because, things got stalled over Christmas and then lockdown happened and various life things. All of which means I'm only just now getting around to doing some serious looking. The Corolla is still ticking along, but suspect it might need some work soon, so the need to pick a new car is becoming a bit more urgent.

Looking around a bit, it looks like there might be some other options for me now (still looking at around 30,000). The Corsa e seems about the size I'm looking for. It seems like it might be a good alternative option to the Leaf 40 now?

I'll be starting to try to get rest drives over the next couple of weeks and hoping the Corolla lasts long enough for me to make my decision!

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Can you stretch to €32k? Leaf 62 ex-demos can be had for that - https://www.charleshurstgroup.co.uk/nearly-new-car/nissan/leaf/160kw-e--tekna-62kwh-5dr-auto/id/240865. Decent range, high spec, good size and some of the depreciation on a new car has already happened. Those guys will drop the car down to Dublin. Personally I’d take this over a new Leaf40 every day of the week...

into_the_wild · 17-07-2020 11:32pm

The ID.3 does seem like a decent option. I'm not particularly in any hurry. Currently I don't own any car. Usually just rent them whenever I need to go anywhere

slave1 · 18-07-2020 7:36am

Zenith74 wrote: »

Can you stretch to €32k? Leaf 62 ex-demos can be had for that - https://www.charleshurstgroup.co.uk/nearly-new-car/nissan/leaf/160kw-e--tekna-62kwh-5dr-auto/id/240865. Decent range, high spec, good size and some of the depreciation on a new car has already happened. Those guys will drop the car down to Dublin. Personally I’d take this over a new Leaf40 every day of the week...

That’s a good price and the car is over 6 months old too, just have to drive it up to the 6,000kms mark prior to VRT inspection to avoid VAT

redcup342 · 18-07-2020 1:16pm

If you are into Camping could you get a Van ?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202006109978295?postcode=ka111en&advertising-location=at_cars&model=E-NV200&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&radius=1501&sort=relevance&make=NISSAN&page=1

You could do a little conversion and have a bed in the back.

Plenty of boot space and if you wanted one with a bit more range you would need to spend more money:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201909192386790?postcode=ka111en&advertising-location=at_cars&model=E-NV200&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&radius=1501&sort=relevance&make=NISSAN&page=1

sekond · 18-07-2020 3:33pm

I test drove the Corsa e today. It was a lovely ride, and a perfect size for me coming from the Corolla. With trade in, and the higher spec, it's coming in at just a tiny bit over 30,000

I am very very tempted.

The Leaf 40 was too big for me.

Zenith74 · 19-07-2020 10:04am

slave1 wrote: »

That’s a good price and the car is over 6 months old too, just have to drive it up to the 6,000kms mark prior to VRT inspection to avoid VAT

Here’s one for under €30k that just popped up an alert - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202007181403670

The 3.zero should be identical spec to the Tekna...

Best EV under 30k

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