Masks

amandstu · 13-07-2020 01:57PM

How many masks might one expect to wear a day?

If you get on public transport or go into some other enclosed environment can you take the mask off when you get off?

Should you then remove it or wear it around the chin if you think you will be needing to put in on again in the next few minutes or hours?

Might it make sense to carry a small plastic bag to put in a mask you have just used or would it make sense to use the same mask throughout the day?

Away With The Fairies · 13-07-2020 02:03PM

Yes: valved

amandstu wrote: »

How many masks might one expect to wear a day?

If you get on public transport or go into some other enclosed environment can you take the mask off when you get off?

Should you then remove it or wear it around the chin if you think you will be needing to put in on again in the next few minutes or hours?

Might it make sense to carry a small plastic bag to put in a mask you have just used or would it make sense to use the same mask throughout the day?

Don't use the same mask throughout the day.

Carry as much masks as you might need. One for the bus/train in the morning, a few masks for work, masks for a shop, mask for bus/train home and a spare mask or two just in case.

And store them in a plastic bag before and after use.

amandstu · 13-07-2020 02:06PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Don't use the same mask throughout the day.

Carry as much masks as you might need. One for the bus/train in the morning, a few masks for work, masks for a shop, mask for bus/train home and a spare mask or two just in case.

And store them in a plastic bag before and after use.

tks

Seanergy · 13-07-2020 03:20PM

Yes: valved

From the offset it looked like the transport union backed an initial call on Health and Safety grounds from the workers to get masks worn. But the fact that the union are not going to request workers to request passengers to wear masks says otherwise, it's about increasing passenger numbers, not health and safety.

Let's face it mandatory masks on tranasport was intorodued to bump bums on seats and get more workers and spenders moving again, nothing to do with safety.

mcgovern · 13-07-2020 04:14PM

Yes: surgical

In Lidl at lunchtime and maybe 10% of people were wearing masks. Of that 10% only 1 person was wearing it correctly. Everyone else at best had it only covering their mouth, and in a lot of cases just hanging around their neck....

statesaver · 13-07-2020 05:09PM

Bus Eireann bus passed me today and the driver had the face mask hanging from his right ear. He isn't the first driver i saw not wearing masks but it is the first since it's made compulsory

Ohmeha · 13-07-2020 05:24PM

No: other

MickeyLeari wrote: »

How was Howth and the DART in terms of crowds? Going out to there and Dun Laoghaire is one of the nice things to do during summer (and winter).

I was on DART going from Bray northbound to Howth on Saturday afternoon, I'd estimate about 55%-60% were wearing masks on my journey but of the passengers going all the way to Sutton or Howth mask wearing was miniscule and some of the middle carriages were a social distancing horrorshow, looked like mainly teenagers/young adults/tourists the culprits

YellowBucket · 13-07-2020 06:16PM

Just a thought.

If someone is caught up in an outbreak that occurs on a public transport vehicle (and the tracing app will easily show is that’s the case) then I wonder will those who were complying with guidelines have grounds to sue the transit operator for failing to implement the rules?

is_that_so · 13-07-2020 06:29PM

No: other

Seanergy wrote: »

From the offset it looked like the transport union backed an initial call on Health and Safety grounds from the workers to get masks worn. But the fact that the union are not going to request workers to request passengers to wear masks says otherwise, it's about increasing passenger numbers, not health and safety.

Let's face it mandatory masks on tranasport was intorodued to bump bums on seats and get more workers and spenders moving again, nothing to do with safety.

I'd take the win TBH. It really doesn't matter how they got there. Government and others have a much broader canvas to be concerned about. It's all about balance, which seems to be right so far.

is_that_so · 13-07-2020 06:30PM

No: other

YellowBucket wrote: »

Just a thought.

If someone is caught up in an outbreak that occurs on a public transport vehicle (and the tracing app will easily show is that’s the case) then I wonder will those who were complying with guidelines have grounds to sue the transit operator for failing to implement the rules?

That sounds very Trumpian TBH. You do what you need to do, 14 days etc.

YellowBucket · 13-07-2020 06:51PM

is_that_so wrote: »

That sounds very Trumpian TBH. You do what you need to do, 14 days etc.

What if a passenger or driver gets it and actually ends up with serious illness or even died as a result? If you’re not implementing the legally required mask policy, I would assume you’d open yourself to legal liabilities much as a building site would if it didn’t implement law on wearing safety equipment.

Asking visitors to wear hard hats tends to be driven by need to mitigate legal risks as much as anything else.

forumdedum · 13-07-2020 06:54PM

That's an interesting breakdown of 128.71%.

SimonTemplar · 13-07-2020 07:43PM

Was on the luas for the first time in 4 months today. Most of the people who weren't wearing masks are drunks and groups of teens.

I saw a few people who were wearing masks take them off to make a phone call.:mad:

is_that_so · 13-07-2020 08:24PM

No: other

YellowBucket wrote: »

What if a passenger or driver gets it and actually ends up with serious illness or even died as a result? If you’re not implementing the legally required mask policy, I would assume you’d open yourself to legal liabilities much as a building site would if it didn’t implement law on wearing safety equipment.

Asking visitors to wear hard hats tends to be driven by need to mitigate legal risks as much as anything else.

You'd need to be able to prove intent and that you contracted it in that specific location and there's absolutely no way to do that. It wouldn't get near a court. Legislation has a few holes in it, as drivers are not compelled to police it. The behaviour of passengers only becomes a legal issue when Gardai appears.

Wibbs · 13-07-2020 08:28PM

Yes: other

SimonTemplar wrote: »

I saw a few people who were wearing masks take them off to make a phone call.:mad:

Never underestimate the percentage of truly thick people out there, or people who are normally average or bright in normal routine driven circumstances, but who don't have much in reserve when things get weird and out of the routine.

CalamariFritti · 13-07-2020 10:00PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Why just public transport? What about shops?

I'm very worried to go from single digit cases to over 20, two days in a row. And no mandatory masks in shops?

No, no masks in shops. Because after months of the real world test that has been us all going to shops with nothing happening it would seem a token gesture with no real effect.

Not that our policy makers don't love token gestures especially if they sense public agreement. So you might get your wish granted yet. I wouldnt put it past them.

gmisk · 13-07-2020 10:04PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Never underestimate the percentage of truly thick people out there, or people who are normally average or bright in normal routine driven circumstances, but who don't have much in reserve when things get weird and out of the routine.

Masks can be bad but gloves can be even worse....I literally saw someone in Tesco...lick their plastic glove finger.... to turn the page of a paper.

Away With The Fairies · 13-07-2020 10:07PM

Yes: valved

gmisk wrote: »

Masks can be bad but gloves can be even worse....I literally saw someone in Tesco...lick their plastic glove finger.... to turn the page of a paper.

But their hands are ok, they didn't pick up the virus on their hands, that's the main thing.

Minier81 · 13-07-2020 10:18PM

No: other

gmisk wrote: »

Masks can be bad but gloves can be even worse....I literally saw someone in Tesco...lick their plastic glove finger.... to turn the page of a paper.

I saw someone eating a bag of chipper chips with gloves on....

NotMOL · 13-07-2020 10:25PM

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

I see over in France a bus driver stopped two lads getting on the bus with no masks, they bate the sh*te out of him, he was in a coma with brain damage until yesterday when he's family decided to turn off the machine, sad enough I could something like these lines happening in dublin, all because of a piece a cloth over your gob. Mad world we live in now.

They were scumbags, they would've doing the same if he asked them to get off the bus if they didn't pay

little bess · 13-07-2020 10:39PM

Yes: surgical

Face coverings to be made mandatory in shops in UK. Edit: England

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53397617

Away With The Fairies · 13-07-2020 10:43PM

Yes: valved

little bess wrote: »

Face coverings to made mandatory in shops in UK. Edit: England

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53397617

And we seem to copy what they do.

We should take guesses now. When will it happen here?

Sometime in August is my guess.

Jim_Hodge · 13-07-2020 11:11PM

Yes: homemade

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

And we seem to copy what they do.

We should take guesses now. When will it happen here?

Sometime in August is my guess.

I don't think we have been following their actions at all. They were behind the curve for quite some time,

gmisk · 13-07-2020 11:40PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I don't think we have been following their actions at all. They were behind the curve for quite some time,

Very true.
NI seem to have been mirroring what we have been doing only a week or two later....the DUP can't be seen to be following the free staters!

Arghus · 13-07-2020 11:49PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I don't think we have been following their actions at all. They were behind the curve for quite some time,

Well, they made masks mandatory on public transport and - hey presto - we followed suit a few weeks later. I don't think it'll be any different with our attitude to mandatory facial coverings in shops, expect us to get around to it in a few weeks.

I don't think we necessarily follow their lead, but when the government sees even the notoriously lax Brits are doing something about masks they seem to take it a bit more seriously.

igCorcaigh · 13-07-2020 11:52PM

Yes: to protect myself and others

Should we do the same? I see very little mask compliance in supermarkets.

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1282789489614692352?s=19

DrGreenThumb82 · 13-07-2020 11:54PM

No: I don't care enough

Anyone recommend any online sites for good quality washable cloth masks? I saw some recently that had a pocket where you could insert a filter but I can't remember where that was. Or if those are even any good.

Thanks.

igCorcaigh · 13-07-2020 11:55PM

Yes: to protect myself and others

I would like to see evidence based rules for face coverings in supermarkets, but is the uncertainty enough to make it mandatory?

igCorcaigh · 13-07-2020 11:56PM

Yes: to protect myself and others

DrGreenThumb82 wrote: »

Anyone recommend any online sites for good quality washable cloth masks? I saw some recently that had a pocket where you could insert a filter but I can't remember where that was. Or if those are even any good.

Thanks.

I bought mine in a pharmacy. 3 layer for €13. I don't know. I just thought a pharmacy would be better.

GT89 · 14-07-2020 12:20AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

I should hope they don't expect retail staff to wear masks if they are made mandatory in shops. I work in a shop and would find it extremely uncomfortable to wear a mask for long periods. Bus drivers don't have to wear them and rightly so as they have to be on the bus for long periods but nor should retail workers or any workers for that matter unless their actually dealing directly with CV19 patients or would use a mask in the course of their work anyway due to dust or spray paint.

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