Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

Goldengirl wrote: »

Patients on trolleys, not just in Limerick but all over Ireland, cnocbuí , and not just tolerated but made worse by every government for the last 20years.

Made worse by the government or a corrupt health system?
Maybe I have rose tinted glasses on but don't remember the local health authorities ever being that bad
Good idea at inception but has become a bloated pencil pusher organisation

Wolf359f wrote: »

There's plenty to argue and not a single country has done right. Every country are below another in response. But are you seriously suggesting the government should drag people from their homes and imprison them for testing positive? Good luck getting people to submit to a test if that's the case.
Contact tracing would be worthless then.

Tuberculosis?

“Within these walls I am secure from joy,—yes,” she reflected. “But from pain also.” The tuberculosis sanatoriums, as she described them, allowed her to shield the people she loved from her disease, and to manage her symptoms when they became most severe.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/tuberculosis-sanatoriums-were-quarantine-experiment/608335/

Fever hospitals is what the Chinese did in Wuhan on discovering that the majority of infections occurred within family groups.

Probably no other measure is as effective in reducing infection spread and case numbers as identifying infected people and isolating them from non infected people.

Wolf359f wrote: »

I don't mean to come across as rude or insensitive, I don't have kids and I'll admit the restrictions haven't been too hard on me (granted mentally and financially it will take it's toll) I know others have had it much much worse.
But it's been 4 months of lax restrictions and I always think if we had a natural disaster or a war, based on this pandemic so far, we wouldn't survive as a country. This country has had it much much worse in living memory and reading boards it's complaints about getting a hair cut, going on holidays or going to the pub. It's almost like it's nothing serious.

I am totally with you on that, and if you look back on my posts you will see how much
But it is a lot harder for that age group as everything revolves around friends and social life , school , college , new experiences , making new friends and relationships .
Don't get me wrong ,I don't brook any **** about haircuts and holidays and pubs , those are short term impositions imo , and we will all get over the loss of them for a few months or even this year but it's the emotional aspects that people don't talk about that bubble up every so often .
They were kids through our worst times or weren't born , so this is the worst thing to ever happen to them .
Some of us have gone through enough to think " this too will pass" , but we have to give credit to so many young people who have taken all of this on the chin with a hefty dose of responsibility , and still are getting sxxx for what a few gobsxxxes get up to.

caveat emptor wrote: »

I made a mistake on one post. Can can keep posting ones that are accurate but you might accuse me stalking "people" as opposed to a hashtag. Care to comment on the other? By the way these are people who are stupid enough to post to instagram that they are breaking their pinky promise swear form.

To you it might be sensationalist junk. It could seed an outbreak.

Have you had the disease yourself?
Do you work in a related industry?

Trying to figure out why you are condoning this carry on.
I'm pissed off at the situation. With that I'm done.

And there is the crux of the problem - when you cite one example proven to be false it makes the rest of your argument worthless

I am with you on the whole issue but there is enough fake news out there even by "reputable" news organisations to make seperating the wheat from the chaff harder to do

fritzelly wrote: »

Made worse by the government or a corrupt health system?
Maybe I have rose tinted glasses on but don't remember the local health authorities ever being that bad
Good idea at inception but has become a bloated pencil pusher organisation

HSE ..set up by Micheál Martin when Minister for Health .

caveat emptor wrote: »

But you've fact checked the second post and can see Florida -> Northern Ireland -> southern island. no quarantine.

I feel you may have missed that.

But...if one is wrong why bother checking the rest? See the point?

Goldengirl wrote: »

HSE ..set up by Micheál Martin when Minister for Health .

Says it all really

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes I deleted it because I got that in the later post .
Thank you for explaining ,and for your support.

And a recent post on the nurses' site ....

How about giving Politicians A Big Clap instead of a pay rise...sure they 'd be delighted !

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Has it occurred to you that people jetting off have family not living in Ireland?
Have you an suggestion for when they can see their families?

You should probably have read where I said I have no right to judge and that not everyone is in the same boat. That would probably answer your post

But yeah, just read what you want into what is typed. Most of what the world's population does that anyways

underdiscussed aspect in all this

https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1281869616235634690

Their phones won't be able to use the contact tracing app either as they're not compatible with phones from other countries, so even if they get sick while they're here, anyone who comes into close contact with them will not be informed by the app.

their phones will work perfectly in Ireland, and as long as the APP is in a global store, they can download and use it.

silverharp wrote: »

underdiscussed aspect in all this

https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1281869616235634690

Yet the governments push on with antibody tests. It is impossible to measure full seroprevalence without also testing t-cells.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Yet the governments push on with antibody tests. It is impossible to measure full seroprevalence without also testing t-cells.

Measuring T-Cells is not that easy.