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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • #3602
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,225 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    polesheep wrote: »
    That's not an answer. It's just another push for your agenda.


    Aaand that answer now makes your previous rubbish make so much sense :pac:


  • #3603
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,153 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    expectationlost wrote: »
    16 cases in sligo in the last 14 days https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=906366889773438&ref=watch_permalink


    heard of a house party kildare

    kildare had 23 cases

    55 in dublin

    45 were health care workers

    14 of those cases in Sligo were one family from Iraq who travelled via Belfast


  • #3604
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Interesting that lots of counties were going days and weeks without cases and now since travel restrictions have been lifted there are more single cases cropping up about the place. Could be unrelated but it seems linked. We know the Sligo story but good few others are breaking streaks now.

    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1281284398931939328?s=21


  • #3605
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    expectationlost wrote: »
    16 cases in sligo in the last 14 days https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=906366889773438&ref=watch_permalink


    heard of a house party kildare

    kildare had 23 cases

    55 in dublin

    45 were health care workers

    Week gone now on the waterford house party, probably start seeings results soon enough if they do present for testing


  • #3606
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,106 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Gael23 wrote: »
    14 of those cases in Sligo were one family from Iraq who travelled via Belfast

    There was 2 clusters up there, the Iraq one and the months mind one, I would have expected those numbers to be already washed through.


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  • #3607
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Week gone now on the waterford house party, probably start seeings results soon enough if they do present for testing

    Ya the 50th wave will be here next week.


  • #3608
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    ZX7R wrote: »
    The irony is northern Ireland and uk are more at risk from us now.
    The US is not on there safe to travel list,
    We have to put restrictions on high risk countries

    Who is in charge on a political level with regard to allowing in the likes of the USA?
    I know we take advice from NPHET but who is the politician in charge who has to present the idea of closing access to USA travellers, to Micheal martin?


  • #3609
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Aaand that answer now makes your previous rubbish make so much sense :pac:

    You should have taken the time to think before jumping in with your smart ar#e comment. Any intelligent person would ask what type of traveller is coming in and from where. Unless, of course, it suits your agenda not to know.


  • #3610
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    It is not just the elderly dying from it

    It is though.

    Time to bump this post.
    cnocbui wrote: »
    How do you know most shop workers weren't?

    This thread endlessly focuses on the negatives to the point people lose sight of the fact that most people experience either very mild symptoms or none at all, particularly those in the age group in which most supermarket employees would fall.


  • #3611
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    It is though.

    Time to bump this post.

    Is that the case in the USA? Or Brazil? Or northern Italy when stuff was bad?


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  • #3612
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Update from Baldy
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clscC120ZQM


  • #3613
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Renjit wrote: »
    Update from Baldy


    Who's that?


  • #3614
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    If it were me I would go out of my way to get a test. Some strange people in this country.

    Likewise, if I was to be identified as a close contact I'd want the test. Why on earth you'd refuse is just unbelievable


  • #3615
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Is that the case in the USA? Or Brazil? Or northern Italy when stuff was bad?

    Yes, believe it or not.


  • #3616
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Who's that?

    YouTube travel blogger.


  • #3617
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,246 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Good news in Italy: https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1281289541140254721?s=19


  • #3618
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Gael23 wrote: »
    14 of those cases in Sligo were one family from Iraq who travelled via Belfast

    Thank fully we won't have to worry about that anymore thanks to the UK and northern Ireland.
    Iraq not on there list.
    There list is not to shabby no real high risk on it bar the UK it's self


  • #3619
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Yes, believe it or not.

    That young people aren’t dying from it or are suffering long term complications?


  • #3620
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    It is not just the elderly dying from it

    The vast vast majority of the people dying are, i fail to understand how people can not grasp simple statistics.


  • #3621
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    US2 wrote: »
    Ya the 50th wave will be here next week.

    Silly comment.


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  • #3622
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I'm getting the feeling you've a holiday booked?

    Or the job may be travel related.


  • #3623
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    tom1ie wrote: »
    That young people aren’t dying from it or are suffering long term complications?

    Very few, but I doubt you needed to be told.


  • #3624
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    And a push notification to boot, without context.

    The media went into a frenzy a few weeks back when Germany went above one due to large meat factory clusters. The next day or so it was down to 0.6 again after they traced it very well. Very little reporting on the drop though.



    Didn’t catch the press conference, did they allude to clusters or mention specifics?

    I'd agree. Mentioned that here that very week, there was little reporting on the German R value after that 1 days reporting. A cluster has the effect of inflating R dramatically as we've seen in Germany. That happens when you've a low base of numbers

    Similar while we're on the German topic the R value there today is estimated on a 4 day average as 0.66 and 7 day average is 0.86


  • #3625
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gael23 wrote: »
    14 of those cases in Sligo were one family from Iraq who travelled via Belfast

    They didn't travel through Belfast that was a rumour. Picked up at Dublin Airport by a family member and went home to the rest of the family where is where the cluster was caught within the family.


  • #3626
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,459 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Who is in charge on a political level with regard to allowing in the likes of the USA?
    I know we take advice from NPHET but who is the politician in charge who has to present the idea of closing access to USA travellers, to Micheal martin?

    Dept of Foreign affairs and the Dept of transport. So Covney and Ryan


  • #3627
    Zonda999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,536 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    I did up a comparison of the cases by county month on month (June 7th to July 7th)

    519373.PNG

    I consider the country very much opened up in all of that time, so I think we've done pretty well.


  • #3628
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    tom1ie wrote: »
    That young people aren’t dying from it or are suffering long term complications?

    Yes, that the vast majority of young people who have been infected and who don't have other serious health problems wont be suffering long term complications.

    Bergamo is a good example of a full-on, near worst case scenario. It was a tragedy, the number of people who died amounted to 0.39% of the population and most were over 65.

    Even given today's spike, people are calling for travel bans, quarantines and so forth, rather than wake up to the reality you can't stamp this virus out. A ban on travel might have to be forever. It's ridiculous. No government can afford it. Such a 'cure' is worse then the consequences of facing up to the reality that the virus can outlast our resources and just accepting the consequences, while taking practical and affordable steps to mitigate - such as pervasive mask wearing in enclosed spaces.


  • #3629
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Very few, but I doubt you needed to be told.

    So young people are dying and getting long term complications albeit in small numbers.
    I suppose the thing with small percentages of a larger number is as the larger number increases, the smaller percentage numbers also increases.


  • #3630
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Dept of Foreign affairs and the Dept of transport. So Covney and Ryan

    Has there been any direction from either of these two on stopping American tourists from entering Ireland? Have the media even asked this question?


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  • #3631
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,142 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Yes, that the vast majority of young people who have been infected and who don't have other serious health problems wont be suffering long term complications.

    Bergamo is a good example of a full-on, near worst case scenario. It was a tragedy, the number of people who died amounted to 0.39% of the population and most were over 65.

    Even given today's spike, people are calling for travel bans, quarantines and so forth, rather than wake up to the reality you can't stamp this virus out. A ban on travel might have to be forever. It's ridiculous. No government can afford it. Such a 'cure' is worse then the consequences of facing up to the reality that the virus can outlast our resources and just accepting the consequences, while taking practical and affordable steps to mitigate - such as pervasive mask wearing in enclosed spaces.

    A ban on allowing USA tourists into Ireland is absolutely needed whatever about other forms of travel.


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