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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • #2792
    Ae Fond Kiss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Ae Fond Kiss


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I personally believe that, with the sophistication of our contact tracing system and our mass testing programmes, a second wave is not inevitable.

    Thank you. Good news.


  • #2793
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Well in my opinion, it's inevitable.

    The virus is still there and we have a population pretty much unexposed to it thanks to our lockdown, so once we back to normal what will make it any different than back in early March?

    Almost all countries coming out of lockdown are seeing a resurgence.

    They are?


  • #2794
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    branie2 wrote: »
    RIP, the one person who died

    And to all the people who died in Ireland today.


  • #2795
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    They are?

    Almost all have, yes.


  • #2796
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Almost, yes.

    France? Italy? Spain? Denmark? Belgium?


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  • #2797
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    France? Italy? Spain? Denmark? Belgium?

    Two of those have seen a resurgence.


  • #2798
    Ae Fond Kiss
    Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Ae Fond Kiss


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Well in my opinion, it's inevitable.

    The virus is still there and we have a population pretty much unexposed to it thanks to our lockdown, so once we back to normal what will make it any different than back in early March?

    Almost all countries coming out of lockdown are seeing a resurgence.

    Ok. Would we be better prepared than March re. social distancing and hopefully more will be wearing masks. I understand what you're saying.

    TBH I've a bit to read up on the contact tracing app. Better download it first..


  • #2799
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    Stheno wrote: »
    That's almost five years old and using a very old version of Android if it's not been updated.

    There is some hope if it gets the Android 6 update - on the plus side, good to see a 4 year old phone going strong...


  • #2800
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Analysis of cases as of midnight Sunday 5th July - 25,514 (-13 cases)

    Healthcare Workers +3
    Clusters +4
    Cases associated with clusters +12

    Age Range Affected
    0-4 No Change
    5-14 No Change
    15-24 +1
    25-34 -2
    35-44 -2
    45-54 -6
    55-64 -1
    65-74 No Change
    75-84 -1
    85+ -1

    Cases by County
    Cork -1
    Dublin -15
    Kerry +1
    Kildare +1
    Sligo +1


  • #2801
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Two of those have seen a resurgence.

    A resurgence as in localised spikes is it? What about England?


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  • #2802
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Almost all have, yes.
    Can you name these countries?


  • #2803
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I personally believe that, with the sophistication of our contact tracing system and our mass testing programmes, a second wave is not inevitable.
    Plus we now have a new toy to add to the toolset. Even if there is a larger rise in cases we now know the likely pressure points and can focus on those more intently. There will not be a repetition of what happened in care homes. We're mentally ready too, given that about 75% are expecting/looking forward to a 2nd wave!


  • #2804
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I'm nearly 100% certain today's cases include a backlog - zero cases recorded for Dublin on Saturday, now Dublin -15 for Sunday with incredibly low cases yesterday, I reckon Dublin will see a jump tomorrow.


  • #2805
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    On the denotification point. In the same way these could be from a few weeks ago, the 24 new cases could also have accumulated. So I would go for an increase of 7 cases.

    Remember, cases are pretty meaningless by themselves as getting to zero is not the aim. Treating those that need treatment is the aim of the balancing act.


  • #2806
    schmoo2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭schmoo2k


    shinzon wrote: »
    Its updated to miui 10.2.1 which is the last operating system update for that phone and is on 6.0.1 of Android

    Shin

    Yea I suspect the google covid layer came out after that - it does mean your not getting the latest security updates which is a pain and you will need to be somewhat careful (don't want to get a virus on your phone - see what I did there!!!)


  • #2807
    Santy2015
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    The "de notified cases" thing is very misunderstood. Unless I'm getting this very wrong, but this was how it was explained to be by a HSE worker friend:

    Those 17 cases could have happened anytime in the last 3 months and then been de-notified

    They have absolutely nothing to do with today's 24 cases

    Fully understand it, don’t worry.
    It’s the fact we could’ve had a couple of days of no cases in the past month is what I’m saying


  • #2808
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    ESTIMATES: How COVID-19 is spreading
    Community Transmission 8420 (-55)
    Close Contacts 16482 (+17)
    Travel Abroad 587 (-)


  • #2809
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    On the denotification point. In the same way these could be from a few weeks ago, the 24 new cases could also have accumulated. So I would go for an increase of 7 cases.

    Remember, cases are pretty meaningless by themselves as getting to zero is not the aim. Treating those that need treatment is the aim of the balancing act.
    It's a bit like the old cases that went to Germany. They didn't affect current reporting but were added to the total. So today would be 24 and the total would be -17 is how I'd see it.


  • #2810
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    On the denotification point. In the same way these could be from a few weeks ago, the 24 new cases could also have accumulated. So I would go for an increase of 7 cases.

    Remember, cases are pretty meaningless by themselves as getting to zero is not the aim. Treating those that need treatment is the aim of the balancing act.
    I think the biggest sign of this is Dublin had 0 cases for the past two days. Doesn't make any sense.


  • #2811
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Stheno wrote: »
    That's almost five years old and using a very old version of Android if it's not been updated.

    My phone runs Bada, what is Android? ;-)


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  • #2812
    Lollipop95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭Lollipop95


    I can’t understand how Florida and Texas aren’t locking down again, things don’t seem to be improving in either states at all and I see Trump is scheduled to visit Florida in a couple of days.


  • #2813
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Almost all countries coming out of lockdown are seeing a resurgence.

    Considering nearly all countries that have eased lockdowns are in Europe, Asia and Oceania I would contend otherwise.


  • #2814
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    So tolerant of you ...

    What can I say, I rather like the Amazon as it is.


  • #2815
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Ae Fond Kiss wrote: »
    New to boards.ie. Just reading through some of this thread. So many posts!

    Have one question. We've done well and are continuing to do so. I know it's a bit of a 'what are the lotto numbers' question but what do posters think is the likelihood of a second wave later in the year?
    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I personally believe that, with the sophistication of our contact tracing system and our mass testing programmes, a second wave is not inevitable.

    I'd agree with what AC said, but would add that people's attitude and behaviour would also need to be consistant.

    2nd waves might be more of a thing in developing nations or developed nations with pschycopaths in charge.


  • #2816
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Almost all have, yes.

    Care to elaborate on that?


  • #2817
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    DevilsHaircut wrote: »
    All the app fans, will you self-isolate for 14 days if you get an exposure alert (i.e. the point of the app?)

    Surely the point would also be to go get tested


  • #2818
    Go Home Paddy Cat!!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Go Home Paddy Cat!!


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    17 cases denotified as well so not all bad.

    what does denotified mean in this context?


  • #2819
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The positive tests on the COVID dashboard for the last 24 hours is +13, basically confirming that today was a backlog.


  • #2820
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,185 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    Considering nearly all countries that have eased lockdowns are in Europe, Asia and Oceania I would contend otherwise.

    Well that's wrong for a start:
    Resurgence of virus threatens South Korea's success story
    Singapore sees sharp rise in coronavirus cases as the country once seen as a model for tackling Covid-19 is hit by fast-moving second wave of infections
    China steps up emergency footing as coronavirus flares up again in Beijing
    Iran warns of virus resurgence after 51 new deaths

    Shall I continue?


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  • #2821
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Can you name these countries?

    The WHO only noted the resurgence in Europe two weeks ago. Baltic States and a lot of eastern Europe.

    China, South Korea, Japan, Australia.


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