Is it just me or have SF vanished?

joeguevara · 02-07-2020 03:18PM

McMurphy wrote: »

I have no truck with anyone's qualifications, or lack of for that matter. If they meet the minimum qualifications for the job, that's good enough for me.

I have however seen lots of FG supporting posters comment on both Pearse Dohertys lack of qualifications, and then in the same breath whinge about EOB/MLMD private school education.

Like did you have any concerns when the last health minister was a college drop out who actually thought covid19 was named so, because it was the 19th covid?

Bet not Joe. I bet not.

It will be a fairly formidable opposition front bench, I'll prob put on a stone this year in popcorn and beer whatching dail exchanges when they have FFG twisting and turning like slinkies.

I had more issue with simon harris being a journalist with no medical qualifications than his covid 19 gaffe.

I think Pearse is quite a formidable speaker but do wonder why he lied about his qualification for so long. But that is not my point at all. SF supporters jump on social media to regale us with everything that some 15 year old dreamt up in a meme but when its put back to them they throw their armalite out of the pram and start sucking on their balaclava.

02-07-2020 03:19PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

His brothers are in Kila, his Dad was an author and Gaeilgeoir as he is. Good choice I'd say.

Afaik they run an irish language magazine

Was always suprised more,wasnt made of his thing with robbing ink

McMurphy · 02-07-2020 03:23PM

blackwhite wrote: »

Was the issue with Pearse not that he was caught trying to pull a Bertie on it, and was trying to pass himself off as more qualified that he actually is? He only dropped the lie when a journalist questioned him about it

I couldn't care less if someone's claiming they have city and guilds in the art of waxing backs sacks and cracks tbh, if they're doing the job they're supposed to be doing, I've no issue at all.

As i said already, some folk here have a problem with a lack of education level, and in the next breath have a problem with someone's "private education" - because why? Because they don't like their politics.

Leo and Reilly before him were both medically qualified doctors, and both made a dog's dong of their portfolios.

Heather Humphreys can put down "burger flipper at McDonald's" on her CV if she likes, it made no difference to me in regards her decent enough ministerial role. (Forget about her RIC commemoration support for now)

rdwight · 02-07-2020 03:24PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No offence, it is use of 'the' apostrophe, you only omit 'the' when using the plural, as in, 'use of apostrophes'.

Thanks Francie. When using Google I don't see any particular reason to be grammatically correct. If I felt, for instance, that I needed the practice, then I would. Try googling "use of apostrophe" to see what I mean.

When communicating with people on the other hand, I do my best to be as clear as possible. I find that correct grammar (and my abilities in this respect are limited) helps with clear thinking and communication.

joeguevara · 02-07-2020 03:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Jesus that is fair lame :pac:

I even thought so myself. My issue is that most of the back and forth is fairly juvenile and if people stopped giving out about fcucking funerals and focused on what is important for the country it will be so much better.

James Brown · 02-07-2020 03:34PM

markodaly wrote: »

SF leadership.

We are hearing how SF did all it could to keep the funeral as safe as possible, so why did SF TDs from the far south of Ireland travel all the way to Belfast then?

Speaking with forked tongues.

To attend a funeral.

James Brown · 02-07-2020 03:36PM

Truthvader wrote: »

"Cherry Picking"???? I am talking about the behaviour and actions of man who dedicated his life to killing and injuring other people.

No cherry picking required - unless we are playing the Sinn Fein game that he was a "peacemaker" when he got what he wanted and stopped - though still entitled to the odd Bank robbery or killing if it suited him

Have you not heard of the IRA before?

rdwight · 02-07-2020 03:40PM

McMurphy wrote: »

I couldn't care less if someone's claiming they have city and guilds in the art of waxing backs sacks and cracks tbh, if they're doing the job they're supposed to be doing, I've no issue at all.

As i said already, some folk here have a problem with a lack of education level, and in the next breath have a problem with someone's "private education" - because why? Because they don't like their politics.

Leo and Reilly before him were both medically qualified doctors, and both made a dog's dong of their portfolios.

Heather Humphreys can put down "burger flipper at McDonald's" on her CV if she likes, it made no difference to me in regards her decent enough ministerial role. (Forget about her RIC commemoration support for now)

The issue with PD wasn't with his actual qualifications, it was with false claims (by others if not him) about them. It's got to do with trust and truthfulness. It's a bit like SF and the AIW. Nobody cared that much how much of their salary they were taking. It was the false claims about their salaries that was the scandal.

dundalkfc10 · 02-07-2020 03:42PM

markodaly wrote: »

SF leadership.

We are hearing how SF did all it could to keep the funeral as safe as possible, so why did SF TDs from the far south of Ireland travel all the way to Belfast then?

Speaking with forked tongues.

So they can set up ways to make the funeral as safe as possible but they cant attend?

Why did MPs come from Brussels to the Convention Centre last week?

Mortelaro · 02-07-2020 03:42PM

rdwight wrote: »

As a matter of interest, how many posters have gone to a funeral and taken selfies? Is this a thing now?

In the RTE photo below, MLM and MON may be social distancing, but Pearse Doherty appears to be at close quarters with other attendees.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0701/1150731-northern-ireland/

Sinn Fein have in the past been willing, nay keen, to absent themselves from parliamentary institutions. Surely recusing themselves from the Dáil for 14 days as health precaution would be a small sacrifice to make for paying respects to a person they consider to be a hero.

1.That photograph was taken with a zoom lens
Its not proof of lack of social distancing
2.quarantine is absence from everybody,its usually for close contacts,symptomatic people and currently for people returning from abroad including GB
If they practiced social distancing, and there's no evidence otherwise (with the exception of MoN) then there's no need to either absent from the Dáil or quarantine
Calling for that in this case is just codswallop imho

McMurphy · 02-07-2020 03:45PM

rdwight wrote: »

The issue with PD wasn't with his actual qualifications, it was with false claims (by others if not him) about them. It's got to do with trust and truthfulness. It's a bit like SF and the AIW. Nobody cared that much how much of their salary they were taking. It was the false claims about their salaries that was the scandal.

Let me know what part of me not caring what anyone claims to hold qualifications wise - so long as they're competent in their jobs I wasn't clear enough about and I'll go through it again with you.

We live in a state where a one time Minister for finance claimed not to have a bank account FFS.

Let Mr Doherty say he's a stunt double for Danny DeVito if he wants.

dundalkfc10 · 02-07-2020 03:45PM

So on a day were the Fine Fail party are in crisis behind the scenes, Fine Gael members starting to turn on the beloved Leo and the Greens just nodding along and agreeing to anything, all the talk has been about Sinn Fein and what a disgrace it was to attend a funeral.

Even what the DUP has said today, has got more posts on this thread than the new FFG/Greens double Govt thread.

Good job theres nothing else going on for everyone to worry about

blanch152 · 02-07-2020 03:51PM

McMurphy wrote: »

I couldn't care less if someone's claiming they have city and guilds in the art of waxing backs sacks and cracks tbh, if they're doing the job they're supposed to be doing, I've no issue at all.

As i said already, some folk here have a problem with a lack of education level, and in the next breath have a problem with someone's "private education" - because why? Because they don't like their politics.

Leo and Reilly before him were both medically qualified doctors, and both made a dog's dong of their portfolios.

Heather Humphreys can put down "burger flipper at McDonald's" on her CV if she likes, it made no difference to me in regards her decent enough ministerial role. (Forget about her RIC commemoration support for now)

Private education speaks to privilege.

Lying about qualifications speaks to trust and credibility.

Truthvader · 02-07-2020 03:53PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

His brothers are in Kila, his Dad was an author and Gaeilgeoir as he is. Good choice I'd say.

Doesn't seem capable of forming a sentence in any language

Have you seen Kila?

blackwhite · 02-07-2020 03:53PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Let me know what part of me not caring what anyone claims to hold qualifications wise - so long as they're competent in their jobs I wasn't clear enough about and I'll go through it again with you.

We live in a state where a one time Minister for finance claimed not to have a bank account FFS.

Let Mr Doherty say he's a stunt double for Danny DeVito if he wants.

Drumcondra's favourite son also tried to claim he was an accountant, despite not having a qualification.

I have to say - I didn't think I'd ever Bertie held up as the role model for others to try and emulate in terms of honesty.

James Brown · 02-07-2020 03:54PM

DaveCliftonAP wrote: »

I think you might be the only person in the country that still cares about that.

Part of his legacy. He tried to bluff his way through something he clearly knew little about.

blanch152 · 02-07-2020 03:54PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Let me know what part of me not caring what anyone claims to hold qualifications wise - so long as they're competent in their jobs I wasn't clear enough about and I'll go through it again with you.

We live in a state where a one time Minister for finance claimed not to have a bank account FFS.

Let Mr Doherty say he's a stunt double for Danny DeVito if he wants.

It is perfectly acceptable to say that competence is more important than qualifications in your opinion, however that isn't the point. It is the lying about his qualifications that is the issue. I had the same view of Bertie who lied about his qualifications.

Then again, he is just one more proven liars among the list of proven Sinn Fein representatives who lie.

Bishop of hope · 02-07-2020 03:55PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

So on a day were the Fine Fail party are in crisis behind the scenes, Fine Gael members starting to turn on the beloved Leo and the Greens just nodding along and agreeing to anything, all the talk has been about Sinn Fein and what a disgrace it was to attend a funeral.

Even what the DUP has said today, has got more posts on this thread than the new FFG/Greens double Govt thread.

Good job theres nothing else going on for everyone to worry about

There you have it lads, let's, all go back to funerals, that's, SF advice.
No one should be punished for attending a, funeral, that's MLMDs advice, to the nation.
The leader of the opposition and would be Taoiseach telling us, ignore govt and medical expert advice, go to funerals if you like, fcuk the advice basically.

James Brown · 02-07-2020 03:57PM

joeguevara wrote: »

I had more issue with simon harris being a journalist with no medical qualifications than his covid 19 gaffe.

I think Pearse is quite a formidable speaker but do wonder why he lied about his qualification for so long. But that is not my point at all. SF supporters jump on social media to regale us with everything that some 15 year old dreamt up in a meme but when its put back to them they throw their armalite out of the pram and start sucking on their balaclava.

He wasn't a journalist. He dropped out of a Journalism course.
The Covid bluff was likely related to his having no medical knowledge one would think, or passing average punter knowledge for that matter.
Are you suggesting all FG supporters are fascists?

blanch152 · 02-07-2020 03:57PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

So on a day were the Fine Fail party are in crisis behind the scenes, Fine Gael members starting to turn on the beloved Leo and the Greens just nodding along and agreeing to anything, all the talk has been about Sinn Fein and what a disgrace it was to attend a funeral.

Even what the DUP has said today, has got more posts on this thread than the new FFG/Greens double Govt thread.

Good job theres nothing else going on for everyone to worry about

I find myself again having to agree with you, the traffic on this thread thanks to the full defence being put out by Sinn Fein, makes you wonder.

joeguevara · 02-07-2020 03:58PM

Bowie wrote: »

He wasn't a journalist. He dropped out of a Journalism course.
The Covid bluff was likely related to his having no medical knowledge one would think, or passing average punter knowledge for that matter.
Are you suggesting all FG supporters are fascists?

What the actual fcuck?

James Brown · 02-07-2020 04:00PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

1.That photograph was taken with a zoom lens
Its not proof of lack of social distancing
2.quarantine is absence from everybody,its usually for close contacts,symptomatic people and currently for people returning from abroad including GB
If they practiced social distancing, and there's no evidence otherwise (with the exception of MoN) then there's no need to either absent from the Dáil or quarantine
Calling for that in this case is just codswallop imho

I fuppin love your photo lens posts Mortelo. They are as wonderful as they are bizarre

rdwight · 02-07-2020 04:00PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Let me know what part of me not caring what anyone claims to hold qualifications wise - so long as they're competent in their jobs I wasn't clear enough about and I'll go through it again with you.

We live in a state where a one time Minister for finance claimed not to have a bank account FFS.

Let Mr Doherty say he's a stunt double for Danny DeVito if he wants.

Okay, I understand you now. Sorry to have been so obtuse, Randle.

Just curious, does your tolerance for lying apply just to educational qualifications or does it extend to other areas like sexual harassment, financial dealings or membership of illegal organisations?

We did indeed have a Minister of Finance who later claimed not to have a bank account. As I remember, that claim was made during a public inquiry which resulted in him leaving public office.

Truthvader · 02-07-2020 04:02PM

TheCitizen wrote: »

You are cherry picking. The man who's funeral was being held was involved in a war that came to an end with the GFA. There were two sides to that conflict and various participants in the North, down here and in the UK. You're choosing to focus on incidents that happened from one side of the conflict.

Do you know exactly what he was involved in? You're letting on like you have a load of inside information on this man.

Only a Sinn Fein IRA supporter would describe it as a "war". It might have been a war if they shot back on Bloody Sunday or protected themselves against the mobs attacking them in 1969 before the army was deployed.

Putting a bomb anywhere to kill and maim innocent men, women, boys and girls you don't even know or shooting an unarmed man in front of his family or burying somemone's mother on a beach is not war. It is the act of a murdering sociopath.

This is not "old history" or past evils simply because you and others like you think it was all OK and justified and as we saw last week the Sinn Fein party are enthusiastic to honour and celebrate the life of such a man.

Its not OK and you don't seem to know that

McMurphy · 02-07-2020 04:07PM

blackwhite wrote: »

Drumcondra's favourite son also tried to claim he was an accountant, despite not having a qualification.

I have to say - I didn't think I'd ever Bertie held up as the role model for others to try and emulate in terms of honesty.

I think the point of my post might have gone over your head.

I was using no Bank account Bertie, and the connections he had with Michaél "money in wife's account"at the time and how FG don't seem to have have an issue with either.

But God forbid you try and say you're qualified in something you dropped out of.....

Hang draw and quarter that bowsie!

James Brown · 02-07-2020 04:07PM

joeguevara wrote: »

What the actual fcuck?

You suggest all SF voters, (assuming there are) are IRA inclined from birth.
We know FG Councilor O'Leary admires the Blueshirts and likens their resolve to present day Fine Gael, but if that's your suggestion on SF, the same could be said about FG supporters? Both as silly mind.
People know both parties affiliations but likely vote based on policies.

dundalkfc10 · 02-07-2020 04:09PM

blanch152 wrote: »

I find myself again having to agree with you, the traffic on this thread thanks to the full defence being put out by Sinn Fein, makes you wonder.

Your just a internet troll, cant have a debate, ignore what you dont like and keep going on and on at things that may annoy you.

Some of what you say is quite funny though.

They broke no laws, Michelle can come down here all she likes, the previous clown in charge and his buddies agreed to this, not SF, not the IRA, the previous Government agreed she could travel down here with no restrictions.

Like it or not, thats a fact.

They went to a friend and fellow Republicans funeral, with thousands of others and 250,000 people watching online. If you dont like it, fair enough you have made that point.

You still fail to say the FG TD going to the funeral of the Gardai was wrong because why, it wasnt SF.

James Brown · 02-07-2020 04:11PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Only a Sinn Fein IRA supporter would describe it as a "war". It might have been a war if they shot back on Bloody Sunday or protected themselves against the mobs attacking them in 1969 before the army was deployed.

Putting a bomb anywhere to kill and maim innocent men, women, boys and girls you don't even know or shooting an unarmed man in front of his family or burying somemone's mother on a beach is not war. It is the act of a murdering sociopath.

This is not "old history" or past evils simply because you and others like you think it was all OK and justified and as we saw last week the Sinn Fein party are enthusiastic to honour and celebrate the life of such a man.

Its not OK and you don't seem to know that

I support SF's housing policy.
If you can point to their pro car bomb policy be sure to let me know

joeguevara · 02-07-2020 04:11PM

Bowie wrote: »

You suggest all SF voters, (assuming there are) are IRA inclined from birth.
We know FG Councilor O'Leary admires the Blueshirts and likens their resolve to present day Fine Gael, but if that's you suggestion on SF, the same could be said about FG supporters? Both as silly mind.

I never said anything of the sort. Hate both SF and FG and FF equally. I was saying that supporters should judge people on their actual actions in politics and not on whether they fall into a meme that a 15 year old posts on their facebook.

Constantly brining up blueshirts is stupid though as they are not in modern times. IRA is still going and there are strong connections to SF. But again irrelevant. Why deflect on the past what SF are ineffectual at doing today.

James Brown · 02-07-2020 04:14PM

joeguevara wrote: »

I never said anything of the sort. Hate both SF and FG and FF equally. I was saying that supporters should judge people on their actual actions in politics and not on whether they fall into a meme that a 15 year old posts on their facebook.

Constantly brining up blueshirts is stupid though as they are not in modern times. IRA is still going and there are strong connections to SF. But again irrelevant. Why deflect on the past what SF are ineffectual at doing today.

Bringing up the IRA is as relevant to each person as they feel it is. Have at it. Suggesting anyone supporting SF, giving them a vote or simply criticising FG is a 'RA man is nonsense.

Was FG councilor O'Leary brought up the Blueshirts the other week.
If you've info on MLMD planting pipe bombs present it.

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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