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Covid19 Part XIX-25,802 in ROI (1,753 deaths) 5,859 in NI (556 deaths) (21/07)Read OP

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  • #692
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    If nothing else, this pandemic has illustrated to me how difficult it is to measure an event like this in numerical terms.

    I was wondering how the numbers of the 1918 flu pandemic varied so much.

    Events in real life are really hard to quantify, especially internationally!


  • #693
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,699 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    US seems to be testing for the sake of testing. Their deaths are steady, while their cases are sky rocketing.

    So they have 30000 new cases a day, but most of them didn't know they had it, and it didn't affect them.

    I went for a test today myself simply because I was in a restaurant last week and I have a slight sore throat and congestion since Sunday, nothing drastic so far but I'd rather know because the anxiety is killing me! There's no shortage and its free so there's probably lots like me and others who have been in contact with a known case so get tested but have no symptoms.


  • #694
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    In the long run it will be those hit the worst that come out the best, in the long run, herd imunity

    No, not at all, surely. Rates of illness matter.


  • #695
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I went for a test today myself simply because I was in a restaurant last week and I have a slight sore throat since Sunday. Id be surprised if I do have it but I'd rather know because the anxiety is killing me! There's no shortage and its free so there's probably lots like me and others who have been in contact with a known case so get tested but have no symptoms.

    Can anyone ask for a test now?


  • #696
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Can anyone ask for a test now?
    Everybody is being offerred tests. Anything and everything.


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  • #697
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Think I might frame this for posterity and because I had a good laugh at it.

    Will not be so funny when it plays out though.


  • #698
    Class MayDresser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Everybody is being offerred tests. Anything and everything.

    I was in the company of a recovered Covid patient, should I test?


  • #699
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Except that someone posted something a few days ago showing deaths attributable to pneumonia, and they were off the chart. Like a multiple of the annual norm. Suggesting that COVID deaths are being deliberately not classified as such


    That was America only I thought?

    I haven't seen manipulated Irish pneumonia statistics


  • #700
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Class MayDresser wrote: »
    I was in the company of a recovered Covid patient, should I test?
    If you want a test you can get a test.


  • #701
    Class MayDresser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    If you want a test you can get a test.

    Yeah, I definitely will tomorrow.


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  • #702
    Seven Septs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Seven Septs


    164,000 Corona Virus cases at 22:00. With about 3 and a half hours of cases to report it could hit 200,000 cases in a day for the first time.


  • #703
    1641
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭1641


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    I went for a test today myself simply because I was in a restaurant last week and I have a slight sore throat and congestion since Sunday. Id be surprised if I do have it but I'd rather know because the anxiety is killing me! There's no shortage and its free so there's probably lots like me and others who have been in contact with a known case so get tested but have no symptoms.


    Were you told to isolate in any event?


    The false negative rate is reported 20-30%.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52906909
    https://hselibrary.ie/what-is-the-false-negative-rate-for-swab-tests-for-covid-19-and-are-there-more-reliable-ways-of-testing-are-rectal-swab-tests-effective-in-detecting-covid-19-for-patients-presenting-with-gastrointest/


  • #704
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    In the long run it will be those hit the worst that come out the best


    Really?

    Tell that to the Irish people who had Covid and now need lung transplants


  • #705
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    The pages of bickering in this thread and constant back and forth make this thread an irritating thread at best of times, which is a shame because there are some really good posts but you have to wade through all the arguing to find them...


  • #706
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,699 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Can anyone ask for a test now?

    Oh sorry, I'm in the US where anyone can ask for a test in a lot of places.


  • #707
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    The wife has my hair cut in the comfort of our kitchen and being honest I’ll not be bothering going back to the barbers ever again.she did a grand job.no que no burning diesel going in.ive went for haircuts before and lost half the day.
    So long barber shop


  • #708
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    WoollyRedHat wrote: »
    The pages of bickering in this thread and constant back and forth make this thread an irritating thread at best of times, which is a shame because there are some really good posts but you have to wade through all the arguing to find them...

    In fairness I think the most consistent and balanced commentator here is a citizenerased yet he seems to have attracted a stalker who to be honest I would sincerely doubt behaves in the same manner offline. A rather nasty persona here.


  • #709
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Healthy people without underlying conditions don't need to self isolate though do they? Those whom are vulnerable don't need to either but are advised to do so. Expecting everyone to lockdown or be restricted indefinitely until a vaccine comes along is beyond selfish imho

    Go to the pub Plumb theyre open


  • #710
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    fr336 wrote: »
    Go to the pub Plumb theyre open

    No interest in the pub mate and they are quite restrictive till the 20th of the month, whereas where you are they are all open this weekend. Enjoy if you're not still isolating.


  • #711
    Spencer Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 268 ✭✭Spencer Brown


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Really?

    Tell that to the Irish people who had Covid and now need lung transplants

    This is a dangerous article. How many people have they seen with this? How old are they? What existing conditions do they have? The lack of information is deliberate as it will undermine the sensational headline. But sure they don't care really? Clicks and revenue is all that matters.


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  • #712
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    The wife has my hair cut in the comfort of our kitchen and being honest I’ll not be bothering going back to the barbers ever again.she did a grand job.no que no burning diesel going in.ive went for haircuts before and lost half the day.
    So long barber shop

    Totally agree. I'm actually liking the longer front, my OH helped with the back.

    No rush back to overpriced barbers or pubs either.


  • #713
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,699 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    1641 wrote: »
    Were you told to isolate in any event?


    The false negative rate is reported 20-30%.


    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52906909
    https://hselibrary.ie/what-is-the-false-negative-rate-for-swab-tests-for-covid-19-and-are-there-more-reliable-ways-of-testing-are-rectal-swab-tests-effective-in-detecting-covid-19-for-patients-presenting-with-gastrointest/

    Yes. I was given some information telling me to isolate and when to seek medical attention in the event of worsening symptoms. I didnt see a doctor at any point though and none of that was verbally explained to me, just a bit of paper thrown in with the test which isn't great tbh.


  • #714
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    7 of the 9 reported cases today were health workers. The quality of the PPE provided by the HSE must have a serious question mark over it.

    Our ICU nurses seem to have PPE which is only suitable for droplet spread and not the outfit designed for aerosol spread. Although it has been well documented since January that Covid aerosol generation is quite common in ICUs

    Irish ICU Nurses

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    Chinese ICU Nurses

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    New Zealand nurses had the same problem but were probably spared the worst because unlike us the numbers there were so low.

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  • #715
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Totally agree. I'm actually liking the longer front, my OH helped with the back.

    No rush back to overpriced barbers or pubs either.




    At least that’s one positive to take from the whole covid mess.


  • #716
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    No interest in the pub mate and they are quite restrictive till the 20th of the month, whereas where you are they are all open this weekend. Enjoy if you're not still isolating.

    Not a pub man either but will be getting a hair cut


  • #717
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    7 of the 9 reported cases today were health workers. The quality of the PPE provided by the HSE must have a serious question mark over it.

    Our ICU nurses seem to have PPE which is only suitable for droplet spread and not the outfit designed for aerosol spread. Although it has been well documented since January that Covid aerosol generation is quite common in ICUs

    Irish ICU Nurses

    0014b189-1120.jpg


    Chinese ICU Nurses

    TtQ7X0OFNRlCPGg.jpg


    New Zealand nurses had the same problem but were probably spared the worst because unlike us the numbers there were so low.

    3SIGDH45QRELVFGUESAUJAJGZY.png
    I actually noticed this about the documentary on RTE. The masks are like pieces of tissue paper.


  • #718
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    UAE reporting very low positivity rates again today
    UAE reports 402 new cases after 62,028 further tests

    https://www.thenational.ae/world/coronavirus-live-uae-reports-402-new-cases-after-62-028-further-tests-1.1042256

    Off the top of my head Maths; about 0.6 or 0.7% positivity rate?


  • #719
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I actually noticed this about the documentary on RTE. The masks are like pieces of tissue paper.

    It's scandalous... not protecting them adequately.

    Taiwan knows how to look after their nurses too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxP1U1reoUI


  • #720
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,218 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    On the first part, no problem at all and thanks for clarifying the article.

    Nothing new there for the HSE unfortunately, deflect everything to HIQA so that they don't have to take any of the blame for the shambles that was nursing homes.

    No doubt we'll have a committee and an investigation in due time that'll make recommendations that as usual won't be implemented

    It got so bad in April nurses were buying their own masks online and one nurse was sent home by management for wearing a mask at work when it was against HSE policy . Union stepped in there .


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  • #721
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Just finished the COVID documentary on RTE. That woman who couldn't go to her husband's funeral is heartbreaking. After watching this it's great to see the 0 next to St. James' hospital on the HSE daily updates.


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