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  • #4142
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    No: I don't care enough
    tonysopprano wrote: »

    Cotton/Kitchenroll/toiletroll etc stop NOTHING
    Face coverings of any kind restrict spread. That's basic physics. The N95 ones appear to be pretty much the highest standard generally available. However the general DIY ones limit the spread quite a lot. Home-made cotton ones less-so, but do still offer a hell of a lot more protection to others than nothing at all

    CNN have been showing videos of how the various materials restrict someone's exhalations all day. Bottom line is anything is better than nothing (and that's why pretty much every senior person in the US, except for Trump, are crying out for everyone to wear face coverings of some form)


  • #4143
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    New scum into power, no money in account, need money, so,

    Ban overseas travel
    Make people spend money in Ireland
    Make people wear masks
    Oh, by the way my family make masks, lets make them compulosry.

    Too simple, do ya think?

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #4144
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,171 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    3ply does not make them surgical.

    Qualifications for masks depend on what they stop.

    Example N95 stop 95%

    Cotton/Kitchenroll/toiletroll etc stop NOTHING

    Surgical masks and N95s are different entities. You don't seem to know what you want.

    Cotton stops something, not everything though.


  • #4145
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Surgical masks and N95s are different entities. You don't seem to know what you want.

    Cotton stops something, not everything though.

    Cant remember the page but one of the posters put up a graph showed the perentage of spray different masks/ face covering prevented


  • #4146
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    Beasty wrote: »
    Face coverings of any kind restrict spread. That's basic physics. The N95 ones appear to be pretty much the highest standard generally available. However the general DIY ones limit the spread quite a lot. Home-made cotton ones less-so, but do still offer a hell of a lot more protection to others than nothing at all

    CNN have been showing videos of how the various materials restrict someone's exhalations all day. Bottom line is anything is better than nothing (and that's why pretty much every senior person in the US, except for Trump, are crying out for everyone to wear face coverings of some form)

    Masks are ONLY recommended for SYMPTOMATIC people to stop spread

    NOT recommended for ASYMPTOMATIC as leads to FALSE SENSE of security and leads to MORE SPREAD

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



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  • #4147
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,537 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    tonysopprano wrote: »
    New scum into power, no money in account, need money, so,

    Ban overseas travel
    Make people spend money in Ireland
    Make people wear masks
    Oh, by the way my family make masks, lets make them compulosry.

    Too simple, do ya think?
    I am totally lost.
    Overseas travel hasn't been banned ...
    Who in the government do you think is making a fortune on masks? Do you not think they are being made compulsory due to the fact they seem to have helped limit the spread in other countries?


  • #4148
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,171 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    New scum into power, no money in account, need money, so,

    Ban overseas travel
    Make people spend money in Ireland
    Make people wear masks
    Oh, by the way my family make masks, lets make them compulosry.

    Too simple, do ya think?

    This is Lidl, is it?

    What are you talking about? Are Lidl not sufficiently left wing, republican, or something or other, to sell masks?

    :)


  • #4149
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Surgical masks and N95s are different entities. You don't seem to know what you want.

    Cotton stops something, not everything though.

    You just made my point. Covid19 is VIRAL. google virus and it's size. Ha Ha

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #4150
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    You just made my point. Covid19 is VIRAL. google virus and it's size. Ha Ha

    Have you even looked through this thread? It doesnt seem you have much of a clus about masks just chip on your shoulder about something.
    Can I suggest slow deep breathes and chill


  • #4151
    Arrival
    Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    tonysopprano wrote: »
    3ply does not make them surgical.

    Qualifications for masks depend on what they stop.

    Example N95 stop 95%

    etc stop NOTHING

    If I'm holding a spray bottle towards your face, would you get more water on your face while holding nothing in front of your face or while holding a Cotton/Kitchenroll/toiletroll barrier in front of your face?


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  • #4152
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,171 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    You just made my point. Covid19 is VIRAL. google virus and it's size. Ha Ha

    :rolleyes: Not in the slightest. I'm well aware of the size of the virus. It's the droplets I'm interested in stopping spreading from me to others. You might Google them.

    Now, I'm out of this nonsense


  • #4153
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    gmisk wrote: »
    I am totally lost.
    Overseas travel hasn't been banned ...
    Who in the government do you think is making a fortune on masks? Do you not think they are being made compulsory due to the fact they seem to have helped limit the spread in other countries?

    Are you that naive?

    Check out the relationship between the following,

    Larry Goodman and Simon Coveney and work permits for brazilian workers, or even better permission for flights from bulgaria to ireland with fruit pickers for teelings.

    Then, tell me that no money was made on these.

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #4154
    Arrival
    Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Masks are ONLY recommended for SYMPTOMATIC people to stop spread

    NOT recommended for ASYMPTOMATIC as leads to FALSE SENSE of security and leads to MORE SPREAD

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/asymptomatic-covid-19-1.5629172?fbclid=IwAR3sgwYqXQ6hfcCmaHPlr9aHvVpcEFG4eYTYiNMFHL_BfAczGQnnyG6KJaY
    "Watts said she thinks the finding in this study that people without symptoms shed the virus longer than people with symptoms is "shocking" and suggests we need to worry about transmission from asymptomatic people.

    "Until we have a vaccine, I think we should have very clear recommendations that everybody wears masks."


  • #4155
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    Arrival wrote: »
    If I'm holding a spray bottle towards your face, would you get more water on your face while holding nothing in front of your face or while holding a Cotton/Kitchenroll/toiletroll barrier in front of your face?

    Would depend on the size of the globules emitted from the spray, but that is BASIC science

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #4156
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Would depend on the size of the globules emitted from the spray, but that is BASIC science

    Yep and the virus is carried in droplets like globules so most of it would be blocked by masks


  • #4157
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    If I coughed up a small gob and spit it on the ground in Galway, would it affect you in Chicago?

    ANSWER: Depends on how big I am and how much I spit.

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #4158
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,171 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Are you that naive?

    Check out the relationship between the following,

    Larry Goodman and Simon Coveney and work permits for brazilian workers, or even better permission for flights from bulgaria to ireland with fruit pickers for teelings.

    Then, tell me that no money was made on these.

    This gets more deranged with every post. What has that to do with who you claim is making money from masks? What has Larry Goodman to do with the effectiveness of face coverings?


  • #4159
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    If I coughed up a small gob and spit it on the ground in Galway, would it affect you in Chicago?

    ANSWER: Depends on how big I am and how much I spit.

    Look you either havent a clue or are trolling. Most of what you are posting is wrong and not relevant to this thread. Go educate yourself


  • #4160
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    khalessi wrote: »
    Look you either havent a clue or are trolling. Most of what you are posting is wrong and not relevant to this thread. Go educate yourself

    Prove me wrong by science or STFU.

    Offer an alternative outlook, that you can back-up, or stay out of the conversation,

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #4161
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Prove me wrong by science or STFU.

    Offer an alternative outlook, that you can back-up, or stay out of the conversation,

    Rude

    Look go read the thread and come back to me and also dont curse it isnt gentlemanly.


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  • #4162
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,171 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Prove me wrong by science or STFU.

    Offer an alternative outlook, that you can back-up, or stay out of the conversation,

    About Larry G or the effectiveness of facemasks?

    The effectiveness of masks is well proven.

    No need for anybody to prove anything to you. And, I believe discussion is permitted without your approval.


  • #4163
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    khalessi wrote: »
    Rude

    Look go read the thread and come back to me and also dont curse it isnt gentlemanly.

    Typical, can't refute, so go after the (wo)man. I didn't curse

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #4164
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,831 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    tonysopprano wrote: »
    If I coughed up a small gob and spit it on the ground in Galway, would it affect you in Chicago?

    ANSWER: Depends on how big I am and how much I spit.

    Masks dont come in troll size apparently.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #4165
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    Typical, can't refute, so go after the (wo)man. I didn't curse

    WHat am I to refute? Your incoherent rambling? Your rant on stuff not connected to masks? You incorrect assertions on masks and the virus?

    there is so much and so little time.

    Read the entire thread before continuing to rant it is all there for your enjoyment and education.


  • #4166
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    But why?

    You and many others state that rules/advisory/ etc change on an ongoing basis.

    Why must I go back to the start?

    Edicts/rules etc from today start now.

    Base your examples on today.
    Your big iost count means nothing, just like your fingers in other pies mean nothing.

    Back-up yor argument with fact, of STFU

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #4167
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    But why?

    You and many others state that rules/advisory/ etc change on an ongoing basis.

    Why must I go back to the start?

    Edicts/rules etc from today start now.

    Base your examples on today.
    Your big iost count means nothing, just like your fingers in other pies mean nothing.

    Back-up yor argument with fact, of STFU



    My back up is in the thread yet again no need to be downright rude, acronyms dont hide the fact you are crude and rude. Try being polite and disussing things rationally might get you a proper response.


  • #4168
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,171 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Yes: homemade
    tonysopprano wrote: »
    But why?

    You and many others state that rules/advisory/ etc change on an ongoing basis.

    Why must I go back to the start?

    Edicts/rules etc from today start now.

    Base your examples on today.
    Your big iost count means nothing, just like your fingers in other pies mean nothing.

    Back-up yor argument with fact, of STFU
    How about cutting the rudeness and foul language and realising that you don't dictate who may post and who may not.

    Why should anybody rehash the entire thread just because you won't read it?


  • #4169
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    So you were right from the start?

    Even though the government said they weren't?

    Even though WHO said they weren't?

    Even though your hero Tony said "that he was and still is but they wouldn't listen to him (echoes of Cervixius)"

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



  • #4170
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Yes: surgical
    106169432_2678435522410354_2620955467169098141_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=DuB39zUjsIoAX_GT42b&_nc_ht=scontent.fdub3-1.fna&oh=4b73ddc587fe8e00f78f9ccc0fa3c46d&oe=5F2421F1

    published by Dr Mark Rowe on his Facebook page on 30th June at 08:18am just saying like masks are useful


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  • #4171
    tonysopprano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 878 ✭✭✭tonysopprano


    khalessi wrote: »
    106169432_2678435522410354_2620955467169098141_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=DuB39zUjsIoAX_GT42b&_nc_ht=scontent.fdub3-1.fna&oh=4b73ddc587fe8e00f78f9ccc0fa3c46d&oe=5F2421F1

    published by Dr Mark Rowe on his Facebook page on 30th June at 08:18am just saying like masks are useful

    Agreed,

    For SYSTOMATIC people,

    NOW fOR EVERYONE ELSE

    multiple touching, adjusting, pushing above/below the nose, taking on/off between shops, not washing between use, put in car for next time, THINKING YOU ARE INVINCIBLE

    If you can do the job, do it. If you can't do the job, just teach it. If you really suck at it, just become a union executive or politician.



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