Is it just me or have SF vanished?

maccored · 30-06-2020 04:04PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I find the body language interesting in the photo. The way Mary Lou is in submissive mode to Gerry Adams smiling up at him. He on the other hand is looking every bit the commander - arms folded.
Would make a good caption competition. Very clear who is boss, even if you did not know them from Adam(s).

that looks like two people having a polite conversation

maccored · 30-06-2020 04:06PM

blanch152 wrote: »

What is interesting about the funeral is that everyone who is everyone in Sinn Fein is there (and is in breach of social distancing) but not a single representative from anywhere else is at the funeral. That tells you all you need to know about how Bobby Storey was regarded outside of the hardmen in the IRA.

same day we'll find out whats behind your SF fascination . I love how the newsletter calls him 'alleged Northern Bank plotter' - hilarious since we know it was the RUC who robbed it (more evidence points to them than anyone)

gormdubhgorm · 30-06-2020 04:08PM

blanch152 wrote: »

What is interesting about the funeral is that everyone who is everyone in Sinn Fein is there (and is in breach of social distancing) but not a single representative from anywhere else is at the funeral. That tells you all you need to know about how Bobby Storey was regarded outside of the hardmen in the IRA.

Apparently he was a Republican with a sense of himself and very 'tolerant' and a kind man.

Basically, your average Republican Jesus figure.

FrancieBrady · 30-06-2020 04:12PM

Bonniedog wrote: »

You are an illiterate clown.

They have a veto on a united Ireland as long as that requires a majority - as it does under the GFA - within the six counties. That was whole point of partition.

That is the fkn veto! It is a veto on Irish unity being decided upon by ALL the people of Ireland.

Do you even have the vaguest knowledge of Irish history that you don't see how this is in total contradiction to the republican view sustained since 1918?

Voting for or against something is NOT a veto. It's a vote. There is no onus on a Unionist to vote against a UI just as there isn't one on a Republican to vote for a UI either.

The 'principle of consent' is an AGREED clause in the GFA.

You again completely misunderstand what the Unionist Veto was.

gormdubhgorm · 30-06-2020 04:14PM

maccored wrote: »

same day we'll find out whats behind your SF fascination . I love how the newsletter calls him 'alleged Northern Bank plotter' - hilarious since we know it was the RUC who robbed it (more evidence points to them than anyone)

RUC kidknapped Shergar as well I heard :rolleyes:

FrancieBrady · 30-06-2020 04:14PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It is not just that, pay close attention to the body language, and facial expressions.

Gerry is still 'The Mon' it screams.

I did, they are having a conversation and Mary Lou is smiling at something Gerry is saying.

gormdubhgorm · 30-06-2020 04:16PM

maccored wrote: »

that looks like two people having a polite conversation

Why are Gerry's arms folded? Why the defensive posture? Plus Mary Lou is looking at him like a star struck teenager. Caught by the spell.

FrancieBrady · 30-06-2020 04:26PM

costacorta wrote: »

Mary the moaner would have a field day if it was any other party . Ferris made a long journey up to his old ira comrade in arms &#55357;&#56836;

Did you hear anyone from SF making complaints or political capital after this sombre occasion last week?

The two occasions seem to have gotten out of hand...difficult things to constrain when the person dead is highly thought of and the death is considered tragic by those bereaved.
Did SF encourage large crowds to turn up? Was any attempt made to observe social distancing?

gormdubhgorm · 30-06-2020 04:31PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Did you hear anyone from SF making complaints or political capital after this sombre occasion last week?

The two occasions seem to have gotten out of hand...difficult things to constrain when the person dead is highly thought of and the death is considered tragic by those bereaved.
Did SF encourage large crowds to turn up? Was any attempt made to observe social distancing?

It should not have been done in that manner either imo. But it does please me that you as a SF supporter are now able to express concern for a Garda - who lost his life in his line of duty.

event · 30-06-2020 04:31PM

Are you equating a member of the guards with Bobby Storey??

Edgware · 30-06-2020 04:34PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Apparently he was a Republican with a sense of himself and very 'tolerant' and a kind man.

Basically, your average Republican Jesus figure.

At least he got a funeral more dignified than his M15 pal Scapaticci gave to his victims

FrancieBrady · 30-06-2020 04:35PM

event wrote: »

Are you equating a member of the guards with Bobby Storey??

Are you saying different Covid regulations applied because he was a Garda?

For the record, I think both funerals ignored the regulations/advice.

My point is that we have the usual crew on pouring out their outrage for political gain about one but who were silent about the other. As far as I am aware NOBODY complained about last week. Which was ok by me actually.

blanch152 · 30-06-2020 04:36PM

event wrote: »

Are you equating a member of the guards with Bobby Storey??

Yep, they sure are. And not just posters on here, just look at the difference between Mary-Lou's statements on the two deaths.

She barely mentioned the death of the guard, but was effusive in her eulogy of the great Bobby Storey.

blanch152 · 30-06-2020 04:37PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Voting for or against something is NOT a veto. It's a vote. There is no onus on a Unionist to vote against a UI just as there isn't one on a Republican to vote for a UI either.

The 'principle of consent' is an AGREED clause in the GFA.

You again completely misunderstand what the Unionist Veto was.

Do you mean a clause that says something like this?

"The Irish Government fully accepted and solemnly declared that there could be no change in the status of Northern Ireland until a majority of the people of Northern Ireland desired a change in that status. The British Government solemnly declared that it was, and would remain, their policy to support the wishes of the majority of the people of Northern Ireland. The present status of Northern Ireland is that it is part of the United Kingdom. If in the future the majority of the people of Northern Ireland should indicate a wish to become part of a united Ireland, the British Government would support that wish."

dundalkfc10 · 30-06-2020 04:41PM

Jesus Christ Blanch, have you nothing else in your life than talk about Sinn Fein all day.

Non stop

FrancieBrady · 30-06-2020 04:41PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Do you mean a clause that says something like this?

"The Irish Government fully accepted and solemnly declared that there could be no change in the status of Northern Ireland until a majority of the people of Northern Ireland desired a change in that status. The British Government solemnly declared that it was, and would remain, their policy to support the wishes of the majority of the people of Northern Ireland. The present status of Northern Ireland is that it is part of the United Kingdom. If in the future the majority of the people of Northern Ireland should indicate a wish to become part of a united Ireland, the British Government would support that wish."

Yes, there is no veto there.
If a vote (which a free and democratic choice) decides there is to be a UI, Unionists have no Veto on that decision.

event · 30-06-2020 04:43PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Are you saying different Covid regulations applied because he was a Garda?

For the record, I think both funerals ignored the regulations/advice.

My point is that we have the usual crew on pouring out their outrage for political gain about one but who were silent about the other. As far as I am aware NOBODY complained about last week. Which was ok by me actually.

Nice dodge of the question.

FrancieBrady · 30-06-2020 04:45PM

event wrote: »

Nice dodge of the question.

Where is the 'dodge'?

I compared two funerals, not two people.

Are you saying different regs apply because one was a guard and the other a member of SF?

Mortelaro · 30-06-2020 04:57PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Where is the 'dodge'?

I compared two funerals, not two people.

Are you saying different regs apply because one was a guard and the other a member of SF?

The BBC are reporting more than 10 people were inside the church
Afaik, regulations were followed inside the church for the Garda's State funeral
I do not know whether covid 19 regulations apply to official parts of a state funeral eg army pall bearers etc

Edgware · 30-06-2020 04:58PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Apparently he was a Republican with a sense of himself and very 'tolerant' and a kind man.

Basically, your average Republican Jesus figure.

At least he got a funeral more dignified than his M15 pal Scapaticci gave to his victims

Mortelaro · 30-06-2020 05:00PM

Edgware wrote: »

At least he got a funeral more dignified than his M15 pal Scapaticci gave to his victims

Suzanne Breen there on RTE's drive time said Bobby Storey was the mastermind behind the Northern Bank robbery

JohnnyFlash · 30-06-2020 05:05PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

Suzanne Breen there on RTE's drive time said Bobby Storey was the mastermind behind the Northern Bank robbery

The 'community activists' needed a payoff.

Or a completely unrelated topic I'm sure; did we ever find out how SF ended up owning 50 properties?

FrancieBrady · 30-06-2020 05:07PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

The BBC are reporting more than 10 people were inside the church
Afaik, regulations were followed inside the church for the Garda's State funeral
I do not know whether covid 19 regulations apply to official parts of a state funeral eg army pall bearers etc

The maximum allowed is up to 30 at a funeral service in the north, not including those officiating or undertakers etc.

30-06-2020 05:16PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

Suzanne Breen there on RTE's drive time said Bobby Storey was the mastermind behind the Northern Bank robbery

Meant to be an informer too.

Mortelaro · 30-06-2020 05:19PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The maximum allowed is up to 30 at a funeral service in the north, not including those officiating or undertakers etc.

That's at the event,not inside the church
Wakes are also not allowed, never mind 3 day wakes
Close family members only or household members are what's allowed

guidance
The funeral should be private and only the following should be there, up to a maximum of 30 people (this figure does not include funeral directors or other people needed to officiate at the service, such as faith/ pastoral representatives, grave diggers and so on), including:

members of the person’s household
close family members
if the deceased has neither household nor family members in attendance, then it is possible for a modest number of friends to be there
Social distancing must be practised at all times, which means numbers attending funerals may be restricted further in smaller enclosed places -detailed information on social distancing can be found at this link:

James Brown · 30-06-2020 05:22PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

The BBC are reporting more than 10 people were inside the church
Afaik, regulations were followed inside the church for the Garda's State funeral
I do not know whether covid 19 regulations apply to official parts of a state funeral eg army pall bearers etc

Slow news day?
Did you inquire about the lenses used?

FrancieBrady · 30-06-2020 05:25PM

Bowie wrote: »

Slow news day?
Did you inquire about the lenses used?

Awaiting the forensics.

FrancieBrady · 30-06-2020 05:28PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

That's at the event,not inside the church
Wakes are also not allowed, never mind 3 day wakes
Close family members only or household members are what's allowed

guidance
The funeral should be private and only the following should be there, up to a maximum of 30 people (this figure does not include funeral directors or other people needed to officiate at the service, such as faith/ pastoral representatives, grave diggers and so on), including:

members of the person’s household
close family members
if the deceased has neither household nor family members in attendance, then it is possible for a modest number of friends to be there
Social distancing must be practised at all times, which means numbers attending funerals may be restricted further in smaller enclosed places -detailed information on social distancing can be found at this link:

Where does it stipulate how many should be inside? 'Further restrictions apply if the venue is small'...did you omit that bit on purpose?

dundalkfc10 · 30-06-2020 05:30PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

That's at the event,not inside the church
Wakes are also not allowed, never mind 3 day wakes
Close family members only or household members are what's allowed

guidance
The funeral should be private and only the following should be there, up to a maximum of 30 people (this figure does not include funeral directors or other people needed to officiate at the service, such as faith/ pastoral representatives, grave diggers and so on), including:

members of the person’s household
close family members
if the deceased has neither household nor family members in attendance, then it is possible for a modest number of friends to be there
Social distancing must be practised at all times, which means numbers attending funerals may be restricted further in smaller enclosed places -detailed information on social distancing can be found at this link:

What does it matter what they do up North. People here "only care" about the North when it is to have a dig at SF.

FF and FG sat by while the British army and RUC murdered and treated Catholics like pieces of dirt for years, but now all their fans care that there was a big funeral up North.

Mortelaro · 30-06-2020 05:32PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

What does it matter what they do up North. People here "only care" about the North when it is to have a dig at SF.

FF and FG sat by while the British army and RUC murdered and treated Catholics like pieces of dirt for years, but now all their fans care that there was a big funeral up North.

Jaysis

Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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