FF/FG/Green Next Government

blanch152 · 29-06-2020 03:44PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Jeepers...just watched a toe curling cabinet briefing there...Leo keeps stepping in to 'explain better' what Michael is saying.

Will we really have five years of this?

There is a new government, get over it.

FrancieBrady · 29-06-2020 03:51PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Will we really have five years of this?

There is a new government, get over it.

Five years of what? Commenting on something I see before me? Yes, you will.

Professor Moriarty · 29-06-2020 03:53PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Jeepers...just watched a toe curling cabinet briefing there...Leo keeps stepping in to 'explain better' what Michael is saying.

That's natural and will happen for a while. As a former taoiseach, he'll need to induct Martin into the job.

Brendan Bendar · 29-06-2020 04:01PM

Let’s address the input of the media on the new Govt.

Today’s Drivetime has reporters slavering over the mic to try to big up the Colleary issue.

Who is this guy, why is his promotion so fokking important

Why should people be so a angry that coins like Ring should be ‘let go’?

We the taxpayer are paying for these people , who have been running a fiefdom in their areas as movers and shakers .

Fork that, your time is up, you had a good innings, get out , you can’t run your area for ever.

People......... wake up... watch the media, they just want to stir up the shïte

Vested interests need to be called out

namloc1980 · 29-06-2020 04:15PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Let’s address the input of the media on the new Govt.

Today’s Drivetime has reporters slavering over the mic to try to big up the Colleary issue.

Who is this guy, why is his promotion so fokking important

Why should people be so a angry that coins like Ring should be ‘let go’?

We the taxpayer are paying for these people , who have been running a fiefdom in their areas as movers and shakers .

Fork that, your time is up, you had a good innings, get out , you can’t run your area for ever.

People......... wake up... watch the media, they just want to stir up the shïte

Vested interests need to be called out

Trying to generate an early controversy. It's ridiculous. There'll be plenty of time for the media to put the boot in on policy issues.

FrancieBrady · 29-06-2020 04:24PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Let’s address the input of the media on the new Govt.

Today’s Drivetime has reporters slavering over the mic to try to big up the Colleary issue.

Who is this guy, why is his promotion so fokking important

Why should people be so a angry that coins like Ring should be ‘let go’?

We the taxpayer are paying for these people , who have been running a fiefdom in their areas as movers and shakers .

Fork that, your time is up, you had a good innings, get out , you can’t run your area for ever.

People......... wake up... watch the media, they just want to stir up the shïte

Vested interests need to be called out

There is more than the media annoyed about.

blanch152 · 29-06-2020 04:26PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There is more than the media annoyed about.

If we said the media, Shinnerbots on Twitter, disaffected hasbeen FF members (O'Cuiv, McGuinness etc), and a handful of posters on boards, would that encompass the whole?

FrancieBrady · 29-06-2020 04:41PM

blanch152 wrote: »

If we said the media, Shinnerbots on Twitter, disaffected hasbeen FF members (O'Cuiv, McGuinness etc), and a handful of posters on boards, would that encompass the whole?

No. I'm looking at other politicians from the SD's and Labour and non - bots (they exist you know blanch)complaining about it.

blanch152 · 29-06-2020 04:45PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No. I'm looking at other politicians from the SD's and Labour and non - bots (they exist you know blanch)complaining about it.

Why would national politicians be seriously complaining about regional distribution of Ministers or poor Dara Calleary not getting a job?

They must think the PfG is brilliant then if they have so little to complain about.

FrancieBrady · 29-06-2020 04:48PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Why would national politicians be seriously complaining about regional distribution of Ministers or poor Dara Calleary not getting a job?

They must think the PfG is brilliant then if they have so little to complain about.

What?

Jesus blanch...it's been headline news all day with politicians being grilled about it. Heather Humphries is just after getting one on National radio right now.

Stop the silly handwaving of stuff away will you?

Mortelaro · 29-06-2020 04:48PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No. I'm looking at other politicians from the SD's and Labour and non - bots (they exist you know blanch)complaining about it.

They are the opposition, its their job
The whole where's the minister from the west is stupid
Of course T.D's left out have to be seen to be repeating it too
They don't want to be losing the parish pump element of their vote
It's part I think of the irish political psychic unfortunately that T.D's are Dublin based co councillors
They shouldn't be

James Brown · 29-06-2020 04:52PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Jeepers...just watched a toe curling cabinet briefing there...Leo keeps stepping in to 'explain better' what Michael is saying.

Its like those episodes of the U.S. office where they have two co-managers and one of them thinks hes more of a senior co-manager.

Brendan Bendar · 29-06-2020 04:54PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

There is more than the media annoyed about.

Like what, buddy?

FrancieBrady · 29-06-2020 04:56PM

Bowie wrote: »

Its like those episodes of the U.S. office where they have two co-managers and one of them thinks hes more of a senior co-manager.

I knew it would be awkward but not that awkward. I think there might be a few patch markings delivered soon.

James Brown · 29-06-2020 05:03PM

blanch152 wrote: »

If we said the media, Shinnerbots on Twitter, disaffected hasbeen FF members (O'Cuiv, McGuinness etc), and a handful of posters on boards, would that encompass the whole?

So everyone pretty much (taking into account you think every critic is a shinnerbot).

Don't see a problem with people complaining about lack of representation. Hardly a conspiracy theory or fake news. If the new PFG squad feel the need to come out guns blazing over such things it'll be a rocky few months.

Brendan Bendar · 29-06-2020 05:08PM

Time the electorate figured out that having a ‘State Car’ in your area was not the beginning of a ‘fiefdom’ and a ruling czar who if he/she approved or dissaproved called the shots.

The days of the ‘Flynn dynasty’ the ‘Burke dynasty’, the Hely-Raes, the ‘Blaneys’ the Haugheys should be long gone.

We don’t need that crap and it should be stamped out.

The leaders of parties need to pick what they think are the most effective people for the ministry, not a sop to appease a bunch of folk with vested interest, but those best equipped to run the country.

Brendan Bendar · 29-06-2020 05:09PM

Wilson trying to stir it up.

FrancieBrady · 29-06-2020 05:14PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Time the electorate figured out that having a ‘State Car’ in your area was not the beginning of a ‘fiefdom’ and a ruling czar who if he/she approved or dissaproved called the shots.

The days of the ‘Flynn dynasty’ the ‘Burke dynasty’, the Hely-Raes, the ‘Blaneys’ the Haugheys should be long gone.

We don’t need that crap and it should be stamped out.

The leaders of parties need to pick what they think are the most effective people for the ministry, not a sop to appease a bunch of folk with vested interest, but those best equipped to run the country.

Exaggerating again Brendan.

There is no Cabinet minister in the west and north west and scant ministers anywhere else but in Cork and Dublin. Representation has been reduced for the electorate at high level in government.

Fair enough if you have a grand plan in mind but the way this 'plan' was rolled out was sketchy and unexplained. Not a good start.
Calleary on trying to hide his obvious anger atm.

Brendan Bendar · 29-06-2020 05:16PM

Calleary not handling it too well.

Should have not implicitly admitted to Wilson he was disappointed .

Should have emphasized the positive, and put her in her box.

Big deal, wanted a dept, didn’t get it, does the whole country break down and cry.

Brendan Bendar · 29-06-2020 05:18PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Exaggerating again Brendan.

There is no Cabinet minister in the west and north west and scant ministers anywhere else but in Cork and Dublin. Representation has been reduced for the electorate at high level in government.

Fair enough if you have a grand plan in mind but the way this 'plan' was rolled out was sketchy and unexplained. Not a good start.
Calleary on trying to hide his obvious anger atm.

Where am I exaggerating, a chara.

Bishop of hope · 29-06-2020 05:23PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Calleary not handling it too well.

Should have not implicitly admitted to Wilson he was disappointed .

Should have emphasized the positive, and put her in her box.

Big deal, wanted a dept, didn’t get it, does the whole country break down and cry.

Bad start, first day and rural Ireland looking forgotten already.
That's what most out here in the sticks were worried about, especially with the Greens, involved. The East and South well represented though.
Many FFrs in local govt disgusted and people in the streets.
Let's hope the juniors are more central and west.
Fair play to Calleary for highlighting his displeasure.

FrancieBrady · 29-06-2020 05:23PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Where am I exaggerating, a chara.

That people are wanting 'fiefdoms'.

FrancieBrady · 29-06-2020 05:25PM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Bad start, first day and rural Ireland looking forgotten already.
That's what most out here in the sticks were worried about, especially with the Greens, involved. The East and South well represented though.
Many FFrs in local govt disgusted and people in the streets.
Let's hope the juniors are more central and west.

Yeh, I am wondering was it done to give the Greens a free hand for whatever they have in mind. No resistance in cabinet.

Brendan Bendar · 29-06-2020 05:29PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That people are wanting 'fiefdoms'.

You are one very naive poster,a chara.

And listen ,I dont want to dance on the head of a pin with you for three or four weeks, so try to drag yourself into 2020.

Mortelaro · 29-06-2020 05:34PM

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Bad start, first day and rural Ireland looking forgotten already.
That's what most out here in the sticks were worried about, especially with the Greens, involved. The East and South well represented though.
Many FFrs in local govt disgusted and people in the streets.
Let's hope the juniors are more central and west.
Fair play to Calleary for highlighting his displeasure.

Does this go on in any other western democracy?

An Ciarraioch · 29-06-2020 05:38PM

There may be a legitimate point about talent trumping geography, but if the party leaders had met beforehand, however informally, to discuss their appointments, there is little doubt that one place would have been reserved for Connacht, with Calleary in before Donnelly.

An Ciarraioch · 29-06-2020 05:40PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

Does this go on in any other western democracy?

Certainly does in Spain, where both the Socialists and the PP regularly have to satisfy Basques, Catalans and Galicians.

James Brown · 29-06-2020 05:42PM

Speaking of abroad. Former French PM got done today for creating a fake job for his wife. Our lot have it so handy.

Bishop of hope · 29-06-2020 05:52PM

Mortelaro wrote: »

Does this go on in any other western democracy?

Probably, I'm not saying it's undemocratic or anything, but it's disappointing for large areas.
A whole province, with no minister, has that ever happened before here?
Then include Donegal, Cavan., Longford Westmeath and Limerick andTipoerary all bordering each other through landmass, its a large area of countryside.
And Clare of course too touching

Bishop of hope · 29-06-2020 05:55PM

Bowie wrote: »

Speaking of abroad. Former French PM got done today for creating a fake job for his wife. Our lot have it so handy.

French politics now?

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