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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • #8732
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The US is relentless these days in its ability to make the entire rest of the world think what in the name of God is going on.

    But I see Trump as the manifestation of massive issues and division, not the cause. And I think the US was destined to have this outcome to Covid-19 regardless of who was president. A country where most people think nationalised healthcare is too socialist was never going to actually do social distancing and masks properly, and it was always going to try and open up too early.

    Florida has 5 times the average "pneumonia" deaths so far this year compared to normal not marked as COVID.

    It's corruption, not just attitudes. Of course it's all in the predictable states.


  • #8733
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    It's all self inflicted.

    I'm actually angry now to see the level to which the greatest country in the world has been reduced and debased by it's "leadership".

    It's dangerous. They either have their whatever fcuking amendment or Jesus as an excuse for doing nothing.

    Unbelievable industrial scale crassness and stupidity

    As BOK Center employees worked to mitigate risk of COVID-19 spread at the President's June 20 rally, his reelection staff set about removing safety warnings.

    "Hours before President Donald Trump took the stage last Saturday at the BOK Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma, for his first rally in the COVID-19 era, arena workers were busy labeling thousands of seats with “Do Not Sit Here Please!” stickers to promote social distancing, part of a new safety protocol at the arena known as VenueShield...

    A video created by a third party and reviewed by Billboard shows Trump staffers methodically walking the aisles of BOK Center and peeling the three-inch square stickers from thousands of chairs ahead of the “Make America Great Again” rally. (Trump’s campaign did not respond to Billboard’s request for comment.)...

    While the Trump campaign undermined arena mitigation efforts to protect attendees from the coronavirus, it did take steps to limit its own liability by requiring rally attendees to sign away their rights to sue if they contracted COVID-19."


  • #8734
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpzd-eIdy7o


  • #8735
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,328 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpzd-eIdy7o

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  • #8736
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    tom1ie wrote: »
    I think the point is when you are released from hospital (if it gets that far) its not like you are back to your previous fitness straight away. It can take a long time.
    For disease tracking purposes you no longer have COVID-19 and that's now a different measure.


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  • #8737
    MickeyLeari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 916 ✭✭✭MickeyLeari


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Can't say I'd be looking forward to him as MoH but I guess it could have been Louise O'Reilly. Wonder how he'll cope with being the man, seeing as he loves to give grief to others.

    He will firstly need to realise that Tony is the man.


  • #8738
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    is_that_so wrote: »
    For disease tracking purposes you no longer have COVID-19 and that's now a different measure.

    Fair enough but that makes no difference to the person who is recovering from the illness. That person is still ill.


  • #8739
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    MickeyLeari wrote: »
    He will firstly need to realise that Tony is the man.
    Not always but he'd better hope that Paul Reid is indeed the man he seems to be.


  • #8740
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Fair enough but that makes no difference to the person who is recovering from the illness. That person is still ill.

    You are completely missing the point of trying to contain the virus. Active cases relate to people with the virus. These are the people that we need to isolate and track. Complications from the virus require different medical solutions and resources.


  • #8741
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,342 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Florida has 5 times the average "pneumonia" deaths so far this year compared to normal not marked as COVID.

    It's corruption, not just attitudes. Of course it's all in the predictable states.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113860565&postcount=8454


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  • #8742
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    cnocbui wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113860565&postcount=8454

    That is astounding, like something from a shady dictatorship


  • #8743
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    You are completely missing the point of trying to contain the virus. Active cases relate to people with the virus. These are the people that we need to isolate and track. Complications from the virus require different medical solutions and resources.

    I am not completely missing any point so cool your jets chief.

    The point that was being made was when people are classified as “recovered” they aren’t back to full fitness.
    I understand why they are classified as recovered for tracking purposes though.
    Recovered leads people to believe that you are over this virus and back to normal straight away.
    In many cases you are not.


  • #8744
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
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    2016 polls were well within margin of error and correctly predicted Clinton would win popular vote


  • #8745
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    It’s good to see China have stabilised their bump in the road.


  • #8746
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    From the BBC :- Coronavirus: Expert says Scotland 'could be Covid-free by end of summer'


    "If Scotland was an island - like New Zealand - I would say going for zero cases would be completely feasible," she said.

    However, an open border with England - where hundreds of cases are still being reported daily - is a concern, as is enforcing the 14-day quarantine of people flying into Scotland.

    "Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are trying to work together on a memorandum of understanding, or a plan [regarding their border]," said Prof Sridhar.

    "Such a plan would be optimal, but that's for the politicians to work out."

    Does anyone have any info or whispers about the progress of this North South 'Memorandum of understanding ?'


  • #8747
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    I think there is so much information overload now because of internet and globalization that people need to go through critical thinking classes to pick the right information and not fall for the misleading fake information. US and countries elsewhere are showing the symptom of that. Education is required to know how to choose correct information.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433b5RJ9BME


  • #8748
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    It’s good to see China has stabilised their bump in the road.

    While it can appear scary to some, bumps like that are the new normal.


  • #8749
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    While it can appear scary to some, bumps like that are the new normal.

    Yep they are going to happen.


  • #8750
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    An interesting correlation...

    JPMorgan analyzed data from 30 million Chase cardholders and Johns Hopkins University’s case tracker and found that higher restaurant spending in a state predicted a rise in new infections there three weeks later.

    Conversely, higher spending at supermarkets predicted a slower spread of the virus.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/26/this-chart-shows-the-link-between-restaurant-spending-and-new-coronavirus-cases.html?recirc=taboolainternal


  • #8751
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    https://twitter.com/ProfKarolSikora/status/1277206056544997383


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  • #8752
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,342 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    That is astounding, like something from a shady dictatorship

    America functions like a dictatorship, that's the problem. Executives like the president and governors have near absolute power. They deliberately don't have an independent public service. They only pay lip-service to the idea of an independent judiciary. It's not independent when the supreme court is populated by party political appointments or when someone like Narcissus can personally decide who and what goes before the courts through direct influence over criminal investigation - FBI tinkering - and then also prosecution - prosecutor DOJ tinkering, and then as if that weren't enough, just declares he'll pardon any convictions he doesn't like. That's not rule of law, that's rule by Dictator.


  • #8753
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    The case numbers in America are interesting. The states that are worst hit are the ones that reopened early. The ones which had the biggest protests marches haven't seen the same kind of uptick in cases. There are currently two theories on why we are seeing the current trends.

    The first is that the virus is very poorly transmitted outside. This does seem to correlate with the studies which have been done so far which suggest it is 15-20 times less effective at transmitting outdoors but we have a poor sample size.

    The other theory is that the BLM marches caused more people in those areas to actually stay at home. So they have looked at cellphone data to track people in those areas and that data indicates that in areas where protests where highest despite the people out marching/protesting when you look at the data as a whole for population more people were actually staying home than ever due to the protests, curfews and Corna.


  • #8754
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Another interesting correlation...

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  • #8755
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    Renjit wrote: »
    I think there is so much information overload now because of internet and globalization that people need to go through critical thinking classes to pick the right information and not fall for the misleading fake information. US and countries elsewhere are showing the symptom of that. Education is required to know how to choose correct information.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433b5RJ9BME

    The last lady is gas. She actually believes a democracy is associated with Democratic party and a republic with the Republican party. These people are proudly and wilfully ignorant.


  • #8756
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,328 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Why aren't we seeing TV footage out of American like Italy, China, Spain etc. Are they hiding it like the UK. There should be body bags everywhere.


  • #8757
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Outdoor transmission not a big factor

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1277214785562718208


  • #8758
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    Another interesting correlation...

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  • #8759
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,328 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    WhiteMemento9 wrote: »
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    How do you drink coffee through a mask, get woke go broke, writings on the wall for the meeow cafe..


  • #8760
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Outdoor transmission not a big factor

    We can't conclusively draw that conclusion. It does seem very likely but I posted just above your post that there is another theory to suggest why case numbers have not exploded in those areas around more people staying at home due to the protests and that is verified by cell phone data.


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  • #8761
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    WhiteMemento9 wrote: »
    We can't conclusively draw that conclusion. It does seem very likely but I posted just above your post that there is another theory to suggest why case numbers have not exploded in those areas around more people staying at home due to the protests and that is verified by cell phone data.

    Their are other studies backing up this claim. The evidence is mounting now.


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