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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    RTE said today 6 deaths but their graphic said 16...come on lads


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    I still concede that if we can have less than 35 cases a day we're doing really well.


    Citizen, would you have the data of daily cases of other medical issues to compare that to?

    I think it would be useful to see how many Covid cases we now average a day versus, for example, stroke cases a day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Citizen, would you have the data of daily cases of other medical issues to compare that to?

    I think it would be useful to see how many Covid cases we now average a day versus, for example, stroke cases a day
    Approximately 27 strokes per day + 5 deaths.
    Around 16 heart attacks per day.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    is_that_so wrote: »
    1/40000 chance of contracting it at present.
    I'm quite sure those odds disimprove if, as the previous poster was saying, your relative has it.


  • Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A cousin of mine, who was due to bring his wife and two teenagers on a self-catering chalet type holiday to the Catalonia coast in July, was told by the company running the camp that they were not opening it this year for fear of being part of an upsurge, so they had to cancel flights etc. So not everywhere in Spain is happy to open.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    This time last week there were 2700 tests done in 24 hours.

    Today there was almost 4000.


    That's encouraging

    Where did you get that info from btw? I'm guessing it's on HSE.ie or Gov.ie but it takes a bit of digging?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    That's encouraging

    Where did you get that info from btw? I'm guessing it's on HSE.ie or Gov.ie but it takes a bit of digging?
    Ireland's COVID19 Data Hub


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack



    I think thats 4,000 for yesterday(look at the daily cases count). It updates at 7:30


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,897 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Nevada reporting 1099 new cases, by far its highest one day increase

    Thats a big increase from the usual 3 or 4 hundred a day. I had to check it myself as it isn't on any of the local news sites at all weirdly, and usually they are on top of reporting the daily cases. 4180 tests performed yesterday and 1099 new cases. Thats shocking. I wonder were some backlogged cases added because it really seems out of nowhere! I guess we'll find out more when it's finally picked up by the media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,349 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    The recovery rate is way over 92%. Way more than 25,000 have been infected.

    " Recovery rate" is not the term I would use for people who don't die of this virus .
    6 months to 1 year time there should be a more accurate picture , showing MORBIDITY RATE , as well .
    Relatively young people ie . less than 60 , spending months recovering , with a lot of hospital bed days taken up , and health services will be paying for Covid when it's not on the media hit list anymore .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    fr336 wrote: »
    RTE said today 6 deaths but their graphic said 16...come on lads

    Corrected by the presenter immediately in fairness


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    " Recovery rate" is not the term I would use for people who don't die of this virus .

    Relatively young people ie . less than 60 , spending months recovering , with a lot of hospital bed days taken up and health services will be paying for Covid when it's not on the media hit list anymore .


    Yes I think the Recovery rate isn't a great reflection of those actually walking around 100% ok weeks and months after getting it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Renjit wrote: »
    My neurons will get retarded?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Corrected by the presenter immediately in fairness

    Yes indeed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    As a measure of those who no longer have COVID it is key data to assessing the virulence of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    No data released for yesterday's cases so far. Strange.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    One good reason to have Spain on the red list.

    Indeed, if they allow them in they will allow anyone in rendering the notion of an air bridge pretty pointless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Texas and Florida have stopped serving alcohol in bars or closed them altogether.

    The governor of Texas described them opening in the first place as a "bad idea".

    Indeed.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,551 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Cases worldwide just passed the 10 million mark, according to Worldometers.


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  • Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I posted way back at end of March that I had returned from a holiday in Namibia with Covid-like symptoms (especially the breathlessness/82% SPO2 on pulse oximeter, fever etc), but that my regular GP who knows my full medical history was not on duty, so I didn’t get put forward for testing. Don’t know how I would have got myself to a testing centre as I was way too ill to drive at the time. Anyway after 5 weeks I ended up with a post-viral bacterial chest infection which responded readily to antibiotics (the previous bout did not respond at all to the emergency supply I had, so that was most likely viral). At same time I had acute stomach issues, presumably from a resurgence of previous inflammatory bowel disease, so GP wanted me to be seen ASAP at a hospital, and in order for that to happen I had to undergo a Covid virus test, which was negative.

    Last week I saw an Antibody test available at €90 at a reputable centre, Travelhealth in Dawson Street. The doctor there took an extensive, detailed history of my symptoms, medication etc, and she said she would have given a “clinical diagnosis” of Covid-19 based on that. She explained about there being a false negative of 9%, and that it wasn’t certain whether it was due to inherent unreliability in the test itself or if virtually all these cases had totally lost their Antibody status. It’s an all or none test, it does not determine quantity of antibodies,. And she r planned having antibodies does not guarantee immunity, but merely suggests it, and that not having the antibodies probably indicates no immunity but there may be other factors of relative protection ruin. As she said, we are on the lower end of the learning curve and that going for such a test is helpful in filling in the gaps of knowledge.

    So I don’t know whether I had Covid or not as I wasn’t tested, and indeed the reason for my low oxygen status was never explored, which could have been to the detriment of my health if it had another, maybe even more serious, cause, eg a return of cardiac issues. I knew Namibia did not have a proper health service as it is a very poor (but extraordinary hygienic) country. It could be I had the virus, which is likely enough given travel & symptoms (btw Namibia isn’t a typical country of tropical diseases) and that three months later I have lost antibodies. That is quite a scary scenario as I don’t want a repeat of the illness I had suffered.

    It doesn’t change my behaviour, I have been doing, and still wear masks and use hand gel frequently. It just makes me feel less smug and more paranoid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Texas and Florida have stopped serving alcohol in bars or closed them altogether.

    The governor of Texas described them opening in the first place as a "bad idea".

    Indeed.

    Because they never got out of the first surge and tried to open up way to early maybe ??? Knowing that no wonder it was a bad idea to open up when you hadn't a handle on it in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,349 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I posted way back at end of March that I had returned from a holiday in Namibia with Covid-like symptoms (especially the breathlessness/82% SPO2 on pulse oximeter, fever etc), but that my regular GP who knows my full medical history was not on duty, so I didn’t get put forward for testing. Don’t know how I would have got myself to a testing centre as I was way too ill to drive at the time. Anyway after 5 weeks I ended up with a post-viral bacterial chest infection which responded readily to antibiotics (the previous bout did not respond at all to the emergency supply I had, so that was most likely viral). At same time I had acute stomach issues, presumably from a resurgence of previous inflammatory bowel disease, so GP wanted me to be seen ASAP at a hospital, and in order for that to happen I had to undergo a Covid virus test, which was negative.

    Last week I saw an Antibody test available at €90 at a reputable centre, Travelhealth in Dawson Street. The doctor there took an extensive, detailed history of my symptoms, medication etc, and she said she would have given a “clinical diagnosis” of Covid-19 based on that. She explained about there being a false negative of 9%, and that it wasn’t certain whether it was due to inherent unreliability in the test itself or if virtually all these cases had totally lost their Antibody status. It’s an all or nine test, it does not determine quantity of antibodies,. And she r planned having antibodies does not guarantee immunity, but merely suggests it, and that not having the die icicles antibodies probably indicates no immunity but there may be other factors of relative protection ruin. As she said, we are on the lower end of the learning curve and that going for such a test is helpful in filling in helping filling in the gaps of knowledge.

    So I don’t know whether I had Covid or not as I wasn’t tested, and indeed the reason for my low oxygen status was never explored, which could have been to the detriment of my health if it had another, maybe even more serious, cause, eg a return of cardiac issues. I knew Namibia did not have a proper health service as it is a very poor (but extraordinary hygienic) country. It could be I had the virus, which is likely enough given travel & symptoms (btw Namibia isn’t a typical country of tropical diseases) and that three months later I have lost antibodies. That is quite a scary scenario as I don’t want a repeat of the illness I had suffered.

    It doesn’t change my behaviour, I have been doing, and still wear masks and use hand gel frequently. It just makes me feel less smug and more paranoid.

    Sorry Cat , you were so ill.
    Did you say you were tested in the hospital but it came back negative , or was it that you didn't get the antibody test?
    Not being nosy but may be getting one done myself and curious .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    No data released for yesterday's cases so far. Strange.

    And still no county data yet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    is_that_so wrote: »
    1/40000 chance of contracting it at present.

    Yes. At present.
    More natives traveling around Ireland + influx Of tourists= higher numbers.
    Easy enough equation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Cases worldwide just passed the 10 million mark, according to Worldometers.

    Rave party incoming St Stephen's Green


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,984 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Would a scarf suffice as a face covering on a bus?

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,349 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Seamai wrote: »
    Indeed, if they allow them in they will allow anyone in rendering the notion of an air bridge pretty pointless.

    They did say that " various factors " would be considered and it wouldn't just be similar levels of infection .


  • Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Sorry Cat , you were so ill.
    Did you say you were tested in the hospital but it came back negative , or was it that you didn't get the antibody test?
    Not being nosy but may be getting one done myself and curious .

    You’re right, with all my tedious rambling I forgot to state my Antibody Test was Negative. I was Not originally tested when I first became ill. Therefore I don’t know if my Covid-like illness was Covid or not, or if I did indeed have covid and lost any antibodies to it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,630 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Worztron wrote: »
    Would a scarf suffice as a face covering on a bus?

    Not really 2 much air gaps to let particles in


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