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LawBoy2018 · 27-06-2020 04:05PM

Ryan - Transport & Climate.

Martin - Arts & Culture.

O'Gorman - Children & Equality.

An Ciarraioch · 27-06-2020 04:05PM

Ryan to Transport, McGrath Public Expenditure and Martin gets Arts, Culture, Heritage and the Gaeltacht.

ExMachina1000 · 27-06-2020 04:06PM

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Ryan - Transport & Climate.

Martin - Arts & Culture.

O'Gorman - Children & Equality.

Eamonn Ryan minister of transport. Here we go

An Ciarraioch · 27-06-2020 04:06PM

Norma Foley gets Education.

namloc1980 · 27-06-2020 04:07PM

Presume Coveney will stay on at FA.

LawBoy2018 · 27-06-2020 04:08PM

I'm so delighted that MM didn't pick Rabbitte or Chambers.

Professor Moriarty · 27-06-2020 04:08PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Presume Coveney will stay on at FA.

Hopefully.

efanton · 27-06-2020 04:08PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Fine Gael have done by far the best out of the cabinet seats so far taking Finance, Foreign Affairs and Justice

They have played an absolute blinder. They have ensure that they control the money, trade and foreign affairs and handed all the hot potatoes to FF and the Greens so that they will get burnt at the next election.

The sad thing is though, that both the FF and the Green leaders seem totally oblivious to the fact that they are on their way to destroying their own political parties and willing doing so.

LawBoy2018 · 27-06-2020 04:09PM

Calleary - Chief whip?? I'd say he's sickened.

namloc1980 · 27-06-2020 04:09PM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

To be expected though. Fianna Fáil have hammered Fine Gael on housing and health, they can't exactly pass up on the opportunity to show leadership on those portfolios.

Delivering on those portfolios is Fianna Fáil's way back to gaining more support. It's make or break for them.

Solving Housing and Health is virtually impossible. There's always going to be some high profile issue in those areas no matter how much progress is made. Absolute poisoned chalices.

Bannasidhe · 27-06-2020 04:09PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

The train from Cork to Limerick via Limerick junction is slower than the rubbish road connecting the two cities. It is not an attractive option at all.

2 hr 40 odd minutes on train Vs 1 hr 30 odd minutes to drive.
And expensive if used for commuting, avg of €300 a month if used 5 days a week. Plus not much good unless you live/work within bus/walking distance to stations.

Even just looking at Cork - Mallow on the same line it's around €180 a month to commute and unless you can walk to home/work not much use.

Kermit.de.frog · 27-06-2020 04:09PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Eamonn Ryan minister of transport. Here we go

This means Metro is on the shelf for 10 more years because he wants to redesign the whole thing to take it to Tallaght.

antimatterx · 27-06-2020 04:09PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Haven't seen any mention of where Simon Harris is going?

At a minimum looks like hes getting demoted as hes lost the health portfolio - will he be in the government at all?

Social Protection probably

ExMachina1000 · 27-06-2020 04:09PM

efanton wrote: »

They have played an absolute blinder. They have ensure that they control the money, trade and foreign affairs and handed all the hot potatoes to FF and the Greens so that they will get burnt at the next election.

The sad thing is though, that both the FF and the Green leaders seem totally oblivious to the fact that they are on their way to destroying their own political parties and willing doing so.

Greens should have never been there in the first place. Ministerial positions on 7% of the vote.

Shefwedfan · 27-06-2020 04:10PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

What's your question on it? There is no Cork to Limerick rail line. There's a single tracked line to Limerick from Limerick junction on the Cork Dublin mainline.

Limerick to Cork on a train is circa 1.40min

Limerick to Cork based on travelling now on the road is 1.36 mins. I would expect a lot more in rish hour

So you are taking the same amount of time. So yes Limerick to Cork does have a train line.

So is it over subscribed?

MrMusician18 · 27-06-2020 04:11PM

antimatterx wrote: »

Social Protection probably

Sideways move, but there are fewer landmines in Social Protection than Health.

Will probably do well there, if that's where he goes.

An Ciarraioch · 27-06-2020 04:12PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Greens should have never been there in the first place. Ministerial positions on 7% of the vote.

What relevance has that to anything? Plenty times Labour and the PDs have been in Cabinet on similar percentages.

Kermit.de.frog · 27-06-2020 04:12PM

efanton wrote: »

They have played an absolute blinder. They have ensure that they control the money, trade and foreign affairs and handed all the hot potatoes to FF and the Greens so that they will get burnt at the next election.

The sad thing is though, that both the FF and the Green leaders seem totally oblivious to the fact that they are on their way to destroying their own political parties and willing doing so.

I don't think FG would have gone in with FF's hand on the purse strings, not after what happened the last time Fianna Fail were in government.

Shefwedfan · 27-06-2020 04:12PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

2 hr 40 odd minutes on train Vs 1 hr 30 odd minutes to drive.
And expensive if used for commuting, avg of €300 a month if used 5 days a week. Plus not much good unless you live/work within bus/walking distance to stations.

Even just looking at Cork - Mallow on the same line it's around €180 a month to commute and unless you can walk to home/work not much use.

If I look I see between 2 hours and 1 hour 45 on Monday......

Instead of building a road and investing in more trains etc that could be reduced.

How much does it cost to buy/maintain a car? how much is mileage causing depreciation?

antimatterx · 27-06-2020 04:13PM

MrMusician18 wrote: »

Sideways move, but there are fewer landmines in Social Protection than Health.

Will probably do well there, if that's where he goes.

It's a less stressful job. The man has aged beyond his years in health.

ExMachina1000 · 27-06-2020 04:13PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

What relevance has that to anything? Plenty times Labour and the PDs have been in Cabinet on similar percentages.

What do you mean what has that got to do with anything?

Ministerial positions @7% of the vote.

Labour shouldn't have been there either. Although we all know how that turned out. Hoping for similar

antimatterx · 27-06-2020 04:13PM

Any word on Bruton?

efanton · 27-06-2020 04:14PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Solving Housing and Health is virtually impossible. There's always going to be some high profile issue in those areas no matter how much progress is made. Absolute poisoned chalices.

The only way the Health Service is this country is ever going to be fixed is to totally reorganise the HSE or completely disband it altogether. Far to many managers and administration and not enough people or money spent on the frontline.

To do that though you have to take on the civil service and their unions, and you would want to be absolutely certain that you government is strong enough to be able to do that. This government would collapse in a matter of months if they tried it.

KyussB · 27-06-2020 04:14PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

The agreement is meaningless. We are economically screwed for years. Austerity won't be a choice as there won't be money to spend. It's about lashing yourself to the mast and hoping the ship doesn't go down.

Of course there's money to spend, it's not a limited resource we have to dig up out of the ground, it's being churned out in massive quantities by the ECB, at negative interest rates - and is readily available indirectly through issuing government bonds.

That source of money is never drying up, as long as there's a recession - because the ECB will be forced by economic conditions to continue that.

MrMusician18 · 27-06-2020 04:14PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Limerick to Cork on a train is circa 1.40min

Limerick to Cork based on travelling now on the road is 1.36 mins. I would expect a lot more in rish hour

So you are taking the same amount of time. So yes Limerick to Cork does have a train line.

So is it over subscribed?

You know that isn't a fair comparison. You cant compare one door-to-door journey time with one that isn't and consider them equivalent. You'd need to factor in an additional half hour each side of the train journey minimum unless you lived in Cork station and worked in Limerick station.

efanton · 27-06-2020 04:15PM

antimatterx wrote: »

Any word on Bruton?

you'll have to wait, she's still finishing her sentence:D

James Brown · 27-06-2020 04:15PM

This is it wrote: »

You have a low threshold for humor.

Anyway. Not overjoyed with MM in the hot seat, I believe Leo did a good job and look forward to seeing him back there soon. There are obvious things that need fixing in the country and I hope all parties, government and opposition can work to sort out the likes of housing and health, amongst others.

Not having a go, how can you think FG or Leo did a good job considering the housing situation how they made it worse? They just kicked health down the road, which also got worse.

Skylinehead · 27-06-2020 04:16PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

What do you mean what has that got to do with anything?

Ministerial positions @7% of the vote.

Labour shouldn't have been there either. Although we all know how that turned out. Hoping for similar

That's how coalitions work.

is_that_so · 27-06-2020 04:16PM

LawBoy2018 wrote: »

Calleary - Chief whip?? I'd say he's sickened.

Lines him up for the big FF chair, I guess! He'll get something better when they swap over in 2 1/2 years.

27-06-2020 04:17PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

If only everyone would cycle 30 km a day each way to work. Hundreds of thousands of bicycles on a brand new track running parallel to an empty Motorway

That kind of distance is fairly achievable with an eBike btw. Why do we subsidise eCars at €5k a pop, but the maximum subsidy on an eBike is €400 tax relief via the BTW scheme.

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