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FF/FG/Green Next Government

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  • #2522
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    I watched the PBP crew walking out of the exhibition centre. They're like a crowd on a days outing from the local home for the bewildered. All they were missing was carrying their sandwiches in a Lidl bag


  • #2523
    rockatansky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭rockatansky


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Hiding behind the charter now. Excellent.

    Here's what you do when asked to back something up.




    Here you are, attacking the poster and not addressing a syllable of their post.


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113863893&postcount=2497

    'Shinnerbot Mates' says it all really.


  • #2524
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    rockatansky wrote: »
    FF bankrupted the country almost 15 years ago yet here we are today.

    I think you need to read your history


    It’s a great story isn’t it for FF, after the crash people predicted the demise of FF, but a strong support has brought them back and I expect them to continue the growth and have a majority next election


  • #2525
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    So you don’t think the people who voted have anything to do with this?

    SF did? Who couldn’t even predict to run a second candidate in Mary Lou own patch which she wakes home in

    Don’t kid yourself Francie, SF hadn’t a f**king clue what was going on, it was blind luck

    I wish the rest of FF were that stupid to believe that. They aren't, hence their huddle with FG. A last ditch attempt to try and grow the party ahead of what they know is coming, the demise of one of them.

    13% in the polls and falling. They'll get a wee bounce now going into government but a lot of work to do.


  • #2526
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    SF forced a C&S last time...a tacit merger of FG and FF this time by convincing the people to vote for them.

    I expect that to continue until lasting change can happen. That's what more and more people want. The vote share of FF and FG down to 44% now from 86% at it's height. Change is all around you.

    A bit early for the Dutch Gold


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  • #2527
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Hiding behind the charter now. Excellent.

    Here's what you do when asked to back something up.




    Here you are, attacking the poster and not addressing a syllable of their post.


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=113863893&postcount=2497

    I am just copying and pasting the exact term used by a certain poster.

    You had no issue when he used it so why you calling it out now?


  • #2528
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Edgware wrote: »
    I watched the PBP crew walking out of the exhibition centre. They're like a crowd on a days outing from the local home for the bewildered. All they were missing was carrying their sandwiches in a Lidl bag

    Aw, no fancy biz suits or glitzy cars at the taxpayers expense Edge? How unimpressive.


  • #2529
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I am just copying and pasting the exact term used by a certain poster.

    You had no issue when he used it so why you calling it out now?

    I have no idea what you are referring to, much less have an issue.

    You are hiding behind the charter to support your lie.

    Keep it up.


  • #2530
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Aw, no fancy biz suits or glitzy cars at the taxpayers expense Edge? How unimpressive.

    Glitzy cars? Would you have the Taoiseach and his ministers driving around in some clapped-out banger just so they can show ‘solidarity’ with the plain people of Ireland?


  • #2531
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I think you need to read your history


    It’s a great story isn’t it for FF, after the crash people predicted the demise of FF, but a strong support has brought them back and I expect them to continue the growth and have a majority next election

    What growth? They got 24% in 2016. They got 24% in 2020. They're at 13% in the latest opinion poll. They're not growing, they're shrinking.


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  • #2532
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    What growth? They got 24% in 2016. They got 24% in 2020. They're at 13% in the latest opinion poll. They're not growing, they're shrinking.

    No matter how hard they try, down go the poll numbers.


  • #2533
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    No matter how hard they try, down go the poll numbers.

    They're being elbowed out by FG. One of the two had to fade away and it looks like FF.


  • #2534
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Glitzy cars? Would you have the Taoiseach and his ministers driving around in some clapped-out banger just so they can show ‘solidarity’ with the plain people of Ireland?

    I'd have him cycle to the Aras, if it was me. Good optics and all that. He could hide the Lexus around the corner with Eamo's deisel yoke. :)


  • #2535
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Anyway time to ignore the shinnerbots

    It’s a great day for Ireland. FF back in power and with the Greens and FG I think will be a good combination till the next elections.

    Will be interesting to see layout of ministers, health and housing are the big ones.
    With this government we can hold onto the valuable multi nationals and hopefully grow that area of economy. Move farming to organic over the next few years will a mix of dairy and beef, hopefully the promise of their white gold is true

    I was very surprised by Labour and they do look to have a good leader so maybe they will start to regrow

    PBP, seriously they are turning into a running joke

    I do think we need to review independent TD, if they want a pay day stick them into councillor roles and they can shake hands all they want. Having loads of people with no agenda to improve Ireland is holding back the entire nation.

    Anyway happy for MM. I do think he will retire after his stint so FF need to look at an new leader now to build towards the future.

    I did like Leo prior to him moving to Taoiseach, I did think he made a balls of it but since he knew he was on the way out I actually started to like him again. It’s like the pressure is off now. He was even laughing as he said about change which was hilarious


  • #2536
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    They're being elbowed out by FG. One of the two had to fade away and it looks like FF.

    It's an interesting sideshow. They need one another but know one of them is going to die out.

    FG have too many smarts for them IMO.


  • #2537
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I'd have him cycle to the Aras, if it was me. Good optics and all that. He could hide the Lexus around the corner with Eamo's deisel yoke. :)

    It'd be like when David Cameron used to cycle to parliament to prove his environmental credentials before his car carrying his paperwork followed 5 minutes later.


  • #2538
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    It's an interesting sideshow. They need one another but know one of them is going to die out.

    FG have too many smarts for them IMO.

    They do, plus they are perceived to have done a good job during the pandemic. I see FG absorbing much of FF. There'll be a few FF diehards like O'Cúiv but the bulk will be pragmatic. Especially with SF as the main opposition until the next election.


  • #2539
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Anyway time to ignore the shinnerbots

    It’s a great day for Ireland. FF back in power and with the Greens and FG I think will be a good combination till the next elections.

    Will be interesting to see layout of ministers, health and housing are the big ones.
    With this government we can hold onto the valuable multi nationals and hopefully grow that area of economy. Move farming to organic over the next few years will a mix of dairy and beef, hopefully the promise of their white gold is true

    I was very surprised by Labour and they do look to have a good leader so maybe they will start to regrow

    PBP, seriously they are turning into a running joke

    I do think we need to review independent TD, if they want a pay day stick them into councillor roles and they can shake hands all they want. Having loads of people with no agenda to improve Ireland is holding back the entire nation.

    Anyway happy for MM. I do think he will retire after his stint so FF need to look at an new leader now to build towards the future.

    I did like Leo prior to him moving to Taoiseach, I did think he made a balls of it but since he knew he was on the way out I actually started to like him again. It’s like the pressure is off now. He was even laughing as he said about change which was hilarious

    The multinationals will do grand regardless, that part of our economy doesn't need growth. It's the SME's need help. Here in Cork I'm seeing many of those interacting with the Cork chamber saying the reopening grants have not been processed at all despite most hoping to open Monday.


  • #2540
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,204 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Actually that's a fair point, isn't the 20km/county boundary limit travel restriction still in place until Monday?

    https://twitter.com/keithconnollyff/status/1276832964895289345

    The restrictions don't apply to those not resident in the republic.
    You can ask FG about how that came about.


  • #2541
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Let's forget that the man on the way to the Arás faithfully pledged not to go into coalition with FG.

    Really? When was this faithful pledge made?


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  • #2542
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Really? When was this faithful pledge made?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/election-2020-miche%C3%A1l-martin-rules-out-fianna-f%C3%A1il-fine-gael-grand-coalition-1.4149063


  • #2543
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    This is it wrote: »
    Shef: "Show me evidence?"

    *Evidence*

    Shef: *Backtrack and deflect*

    Even as a FG supporter I find it hilarious :)


    Francie has asked for the same letter and been provided it 20 times already


    I am just poking some fun as a certain poster on here is constantly lying and when asked to provide evidence spouts out "It doesnt say in charter I have to provide a link"


    Its a joyful day, might as well have a laugh


  • #2544
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    This is it wrote: »
    Shef: "Show me evidence?"

    *Evidence*

    Shef: *Backtrack and deflect*

    Even as a FG supporter I find it hilarious :)

    It's gas...he just lied and walked away from it.

    Claimed he didn't do something then, was shown the evidence and just ignored it. :):)


  • #2545
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,204 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Really? When was this faithful pledge made?

    He reiterated it on 23rd Feb 2020 so some time before that apparently
    The Fianna Fail leader has reiterated that he will not go into Government with Fine Gael or Sinn Fein.

    His comments come despite the findings of recent opinion polls which suggest that a Fianna Fail coalition with either Sein Fein or Fine Geal
    might be the only way to form a viable government after Fridays vote.

    Michael Martin says the country badly needs a different party in power
    https://kfmradio.com/news/23022016-1043/martin-says-ff-will-not-go-govt-fine-gael-or-sinn-fein


  • #2546
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/election-2020-miche%C3%A1l-martin-rules-out-fianna-f%C3%A1il-fine-gael-grand-coalition-1.4149063

    TBF to Micheál, the world has changed completely since January.


  • #2547
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Francie has asked for the same letter and been provided it 20 times already


    h

    Another outright lie.


  • #2548
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    He reiterated it on 23rd Feb 2020 so some time before that apparently


    https://kfmradio.com/news/23022016-1043/martin-says-ff-will-not-go-govt-fine-gael-or-sinn-fein

    And the numbers didn't work out and the crisis we're in was unforeseen. Personally I prefer politicians who can reflect on reality and compromise their position, as opposed to those who dogmatically insist on immoveable ideology.


  • #2549
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    smurgen wrote: »
    The multinationals will do grand regardless, that part of our economy doesn't need growth. It's the SME's need help. Here in Cork I'm seeing many of those interacting with the Cork chamber saying the reopening grants have not been processed at all despite most hoping to open Monday.




    You do realise the money driven by the multinational drive huge money into the SME


    When Dell closed in limerick it massiver hit was not just the people left jobless. It was all the supplier and then all the SME that staff bought stuff in with wages


    I think they mentioned Dell used 2k eggs or something per day, thats the affect losin multi nationals have


  • #2550
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,470 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    TBF to Micheál, the world has changed completely since January.

    TBF to everyone...people knew in January he was lying.


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  • #2551
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    TBF to everyone...people knew in January he was lying.

    Everybody was lying in January.


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