Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

is_that_so · 27-06-2020 09:26AM

Renjit wrote: »

Far UV-C is fine. It wont mess with your cells.
https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/far-uvc-light-safely-kills-airborne-coronaviruses

Ah yes, confused it with the normal germicidal UV.

Dante7 · 27-06-2020 09:33AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Just watched a segment on Sky News about Britain negotiating air bridges.

They seem to be of the impression that countries are rushing to let in British holiday makers and that it's the British government who will decide around the world who is blessed with their tourists.

Not once mentioned that any country might say no. You'd almost think other countries had no choice in the matter.

In a way they are right. Like us, the main obstacle to UK citizens travelling is the 14 day quarantine they will face on return. Spain already allows them in. That all may change though when the EU publish their safe list. If the EU act together they will put the UK on the red list, but if it's left to individual countries, they will be reluctant to unilaterally ban the UK while allowing other countries in.

carq · 27-06-2020 09:33AM

Why are there still 3 flights daily from US landing in dublin?
Should we not be banning inbound flights from the worst country in the world?

hotmail.com · 27-06-2020 09:35AM

carq wrote: »

Why are there still 3 flights daily from US landing in dublin?
Should we not be banning inbound flights from the worst country in the world?

If they won't end American troops landing in Shannon, I doubt they'll end flights to the almighty America. All hail America.

carq · 27-06-2020 09:39AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

If they won't end American troops landing in Shannon, I doubt they'll end flights to the almighty America. All hail America.

The impression leo gives is that we have strict controls. USA are not even on their second wave, they never stopped the first one. Makes all the sacrifices we are making worthless if tourists from the USA start coming here now the hotels are back open.

Kermit.de.frog · 27-06-2020 09:40AM

Dante7 wrote: »

In a way they are right. Like us, the main obstacle to UK citizens travelling is the 14 day quarantine they will face on return. Spain already allows them in. That all may change though when the EU publish their safe list. If the EU act together they will put the UK on the red list, but if it's left to individual countries, they will be reluctant to unilaterally ban the UK while allowing other countries in.

There is also the 14 day quarantine on arrival and a lot of countries are not going to lift that for the UK as well as other countries like Sweden and Portugal.

The arrival quarantine is just as problematic for tourism as the return quarantine.

Boggles · 27-06-2020 09:50AM

The 14 day quarantine is a box ticking exercise.

Absolute nonsense.

Dante7 · 27-06-2020 09:51AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

There is also the 14 day quarantine on arrival and a lot of countries are not going to lift that for the UK as well as other countries like Sweden and Portugal.

The arrival quarantine is just as problematic for tourism as the return quarantine.

The UK have been allowed into Spain and the Islands since June 19th with no requirement for quarantine. Like us, the issue is with their FCO currently having an essential travel only advisory and a 14 day quarantine on return. They face no quarantine in Spain.

speckle · 27-06-2020 10:11AM

I posted a long while back(losing track of time here feel like I have lived 5 years in 5months!)that I thought covid was like an autoimmune disease on the rampage.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1521661620304526

Basic immunology/hypersensitivity text

https://aacijournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1710-1492-7-S1-S1

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK27136/

Basic immunology/hypersensity for those who learn visually

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=74gkBLnJz3A

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nQYATo46FfY

tom1ie · 27-06-2020 10:34AM

carq wrote: »

Why are there still 3 flights daily from US landing in dublin?
Should we not be banning inbound flights from the worst country in the world?

It’s unreal tbh.
We are inviting this virus back in by allowing flights from the uk and USA in.

speckle · 27-06-2020 10:41AM

meanwhile we are attached to the uk and not allowed in to the usa.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/map-and-travel-notices.html

iguana · 27-06-2020 10:47AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

I've noticed I've been experiencing shortness of breath the last few months, at first I thought it was just psychosomatic, broght on by the drama of the pandemic..but it is definitely there. Was reading on reddit about some other young people who have just that symptom and nothing else. I've not experienced any symptoms of note. I guess I'm wondering now whether I might have been asymptomatic and sustained some amount of lung damage. Anyone else have this, residual shortness of breath?

There are commercially available antibody tests in Ireland now for €80-90 but from what I've read there is enough reasonable speculation that they aren't sensitive enough yet as the antibody wanes very quickly in some people with mild symptoms/the T-Cell response may be more definitive. So a positive result is almost certainly accurate while a negative only means you don't have a detectable level of antibody, not necessarily that you didn't have Covid. So if you pay for the test, you may not be paying for a definitive answer. It could be worth just waiting a few more months until more is known and possibly better testing is developed.

If you are worried about lung damage talk to your doctor and see if they will refer you for a chest x-ray and blood clotting tests. The odds are that you have neither but shortness of breath should be investigated to be on the safe side. I had mild flu like symptoms with chest constriction and a lot of shortness of breath in the second half of March. In early April, a few days after I recovered, I came down with a number of post-viral conditions, pleurisy in my right lung, costochodritis and esophagitis which is a type of reflux often triggered by a virus. These all cause chest pain and shortness of breath. I'm mostly recovered now but still have mild symptoms, of all of them which worsen with exertion. I'm still using proton pump inhibitors for the reflux and anti-inflammatories for the chest wall inflammation though as much as possible I use gel, so as not to worsen the reflux. I also have hayfever/dust sensitivity for the first time ever but that increased sensitivity is not unusual after a respiratory infection.

It's being increasingly reported that many people who either had Covid symptoms or confirmed Covid, even mild cases, are having a months long illness. Almost certainly caused by the virus triggering post-viral conditions. Some viruses tend to do this more than others. It's almost always temporary and is usually a signal that your body needs more rest to recover completely.

cnocbui · 27-06-2020 10:49AM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

That's an absurd comment. And I'm not sure you meant optimism, although I am confident about the future. What did I say or do that was selfish? I've been more or less cocooned at home for months and haven't even hugged my grandchildren. When in a shop (once a week at most) I wear a mask.
I simply pointed out that a test positivity rate of 0 is improbable, as the virus is not eliminated and will not be eliminated until we have a vaccine.

So, keep your insults for those that may deserve them.

Sorry, it was intended as a joke, playing off the notion of positivity, in that some people still had some, so we couldn't get to 0 - never mind.

ACitizenErased · 27-06-2020 10:51AM

carq wrote: »

Why are there still 3 flights daily from US landing in dublin?
Should we not be banning inbound flights from the worst country in the world?

Cargo.

tom1ie · 27-06-2020 10:59AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cargo.

Are we 100% sure no passengers are on these planes?

NH2013 · 27-06-2020 11:02AM

carq wrote: »

Why are there still 3 flights daily from US landing in dublin?
Should we not be banning inbound flights from the worst country in the world?

Cargo, we import millions of euro of equiptment and goods from the USA and our economy depends on being able to export goods there as well, think of all the pharmaciticals we manufacture here in Ireland that needs to be shipped all around the world etc.

This point has been brought up time and time again on this forum, these American flights are all primarily aimed at keeping supply lines open and what remains of the economy able to function.

Passenger seats are available to those authorised to travel here, but numbers are in the single digits per flight.

Non solum non ambulabit · 27-06-2020 11:25AM

carq wrote: »

Why are there still 3 flights daily from US landing in dublin?
Should we not be banning inbound flights from the worst country in the world?

A few weeks ago we had a poster complaining about flights coming in from China. They were the PPE flights. You couldn't make it up.

Strumms · 27-06-2020 11:49AM

NH2013 wrote: »

Cargo, we import millions of euro of equiptment and goods from the USA and our economy depends on being able to export goods there as well, think of all the pharmaciticals we manufacture here in Ireland that needs to be shipped all around the world etc.

This point has been brought up time and time again on this forum, these American flights are all primarily aimed at keeping supply lines open and what remains of the economy able to function.

Passenger seats are available to those authorised to travel here, but numbers are in the single digits per flight.

Yep, The passengers traveling on those flights are usually just supplementary crew..

so you could have a couple of loadmasters, aircraft mechanics etc... riding in the jumpseats. Even flight crew .

GeorgeBailey · 27-06-2020 12:03PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Just watched a segment on Sky News about Britain negotiating air bridges.

They seem to be of the impression that countries are rushing to let in British holiday makers and that it's the British government who will decide around the world who is blessed with their tourists.

Not once mentioned that any country might say no. You'd almost think other countries had no choice in the matter.

The british inflicting themselves on other countries? old habits die hard I guess.

carq · 27-06-2020 12:22PM

NH2013 wrote: »

Cargo, we import millions of euro of equiptment and goods from the USA and our economy depends on being able to export goods there as well, think of all the pharmaciticals we manufacture here in Ireland that needs to be shipped all around the world etc.

This point has been brought up time and time again on this forum, these American flights are all primarily aimed at keeping supply lines open and what remains of the economy able to function.

Passenger seats are available to those authorised to travel here, but numbers are in the single digits per flight.

Ok good to hear!
Would be good to see actual numbers of passengers on these flights , especially in coming weeks.

carq · 27-06-2020 12:22PM

NH2013 wrote: »

Cargo, we import millions of euro of equiptment and goods from the USA and our economy depends on being able to export goods there as well, think of all the pharmaciticals we manufacture here in Ireland that needs to be shipped all around the world etc.

This point has been brought up time and time again on this forum, these American flights are all primarily aimed at keeping supply lines open and what remains of the economy able to function.

Passenger seats are available to those authorised to travel here, but numbers are in the single digits per flight.

Ok good to hear!
Would be good to see actual numbers of passengers on these flights , especially in coming weeks.

wadacrack · 27-06-2020 12:33PM

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1276771286438592512

Boggles · 27-06-2020 12:34PM

NH2013 wrote: »

Cargo, we import millions of euro of equiptment and goods from the USA and our economy depends on being able to export goods there as well, think of all the pharmaciticals we manufacture here in Ireland that needs to be shipped all around the world etc.

This point has been brought up time and time again on this forum, these American flights are all primarily aimed at keeping supply lines open and what remains of the economy able to function.

Passenger seats are available to those authorised to travel here, but numbers are in the single digits per flight.

You are talking about Cargo flights, they still operate as normal and do not show on the flight list board at the airport. DHL, Fedex UPS use Shannon as a hub.

Passenger flights to North America are still operating but at a reduced schedule. You could fly to Boston, New York and Chicaho now if you like.

https://www.aerlingus.com/support/flight-disruption-information/

Transatlantic Flights: We are continuing to operate a reduced schedule between North America and Ireland with a number of flights to / from Dublin and New York (JFK), Boston and Chicago.

Passenger flight do carry cargo too, but the bulk of this is done by the Cargo Companies who have their own fleet.

iamwhoiam · 27-06-2020 12:34PM

We are not on the UK’s traffic light tourism system at all ? Can we come to the UK or they come here without any quarantine at all ? Or am I misunderstanding the system

Jim_Hodge · 27-06-2020 12:38PM

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1276771286438592512

He added

My advice is to listen to us and not the airlines.

An Ciarraioch · 27-06-2020 12:40PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

We are not on the UK’s traffic light tourism system at all ? Can we come to the UK or they come here without any quarantine at all ? Or am I misunderstanding the system

We don't have to quarantine in the UK, but they do when coming here.

Rob A. Bank · 27-06-2020 12:54PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Yeah, this has been known for quite a while. There are already some normal UV solutions out there. One thing about this form is that you do not want to anywhere near it or it'll mess with your cells as well in a very bad way. It is a preferable option to something like distancing and face masks, which we cannot do forever.

Do you have reading or comprehension difficulties ?

This is NEW information about the use of far-UVC light to eliminate airborne coronaviruses which does not 'mess with your cells', published in Nature on 24th of June 2020.

LOL

:rolleyes:

podgeandrodge · 27-06-2020 01:05PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Do you have reading or comprehension difficulties ?

This is NEW information about the use of far-UVC light to eliminate airborne coronaviruses which does not 'mess with your cells', published in Nature on 24th of June 2020.

LOL

:rolleyes:

He already pointed out that he misread it, which you missed with your reading difficulties.

is_that_so wrote: »

Ah yes, confused it with the normal germicidal UV.

Rob A. Bank · 27-06-2020 01:14PM

Boggles wrote: »

The 14 day quarantine is a box ticking exercise.

Absolute nonsense.

Agreed... we are trusting the bio security of the country to every random idiot brit or yank who arrives here conscientiously adhering to the 14 day rule.

And when you see how some have behaved in their own country... how likely is that ?

shinzon · 27-06-2020 01:17PM

I found this quite interesting some are going to snigger but I dont care, there has been an outbreak of covid-19 amongst WWE wrestlers and one of the female talent has tested positive for coronavirus a second time so it looks like you can get reinfected

Shin

Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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