General Election and Government Formation Megathread (see post #1)

Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 10:46AM

Is Norma foley an outside bet for a junior minister ? I heard her name mentioned during the week as a maybe.

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 10:52AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Has the Dail ever met on the northside?

As a parliament I think it has only met in Leinster House, the Mansion House and Earlsfort Terrace (UCD/NCH).

Though I will be corrected on this by anyone who knows better.

Cabinet meetings have taken place all over the State.

hotmail.com · 27-06-2020 10:53AM

It's pretty pathetic that our politicians have to read off a written script whenever the speak in the Dail. Every single time.

larva · 27-06-2020 11:03AM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Though not in enough droves to actually force a change of guard. That's how the numbers played out.

TBH, I'd say SF are quite happy to sit back and get to complain about everything for another five years without having to do the hard work of balancing needs and resources.

SF were again excluded by other parties from "getting the numbers" its was a clear political campaign that any other form of government without them was going to happen, hence the so called historic Grand coalition. SF will be of great benefit to the country in opposition, holding this government to account. And if the new government, FF in particular, screw the country over again then I hope they "do a Labour" and are never heard of ever again.

Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 11:07AM

larva wrote: »

SF were again excluded by other parties from "getting the numbers" its was a clear political campaign that any other form of government without them was going to happen, hence the so called historic Grand coalition. SF will be of great benefit to the country in opposition, holding this government to account. And if the new government, FF in particular, screw the country over again then I hope they "do a Labour" and are never heard of ever again.

How were they excluded when it looked like this deal was likely Mary Lou McDonald said they’d be able to get a outline of a left deal done ? So if it was possible now it was possible then.

Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 11:10AM

I know they have to do it but these speeches add nothing really.

oceanman · 27-06-2020 11:12AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Has the Dail ever met on the northside?

yes

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 11:14AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

It's pretty pathetic that our politicians have to read off a written script whenever the speak in the Dail. Every single time.

It's not an oratorical chamber. It's for legislative purposes. I'd rather they read a script of well considered thoughts than talk nonsense.

Or should I say, more nonsense than other parliaments.

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 11:15AM

oceanman wrote: »

yes

Where? When?

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 11:18AM

What's the point of the Labour party anymore?

Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 11:18AM

Right so labour is saying no to most things.

Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 11:22AM

Alan Kelly is making a speech like he’s a leader of a major party.

larva · 27-06-2020 11:22AM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

How were they excluded when it looked like this deal was likely Mary Lou McDonald said they’d be able to get a outline of a left deal done ? So if it was possible now it was possible then.

Excluded by many, especially by all three parties now in government.

oceanman · 27-06-2020 11:23AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Where? When?

abbeville house kinsealy, not sure what year though.

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 11:28AM

oceanman wrote: »

abbeville house kinsealy, not sure what year though.

Haughey's gaff!

That would have been a cabinet meeting surely and not a parliament meeting.

Edit: Cabinet meeting held on November 11th, 1988 due to Haughey's asthma.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/the-scene-of-many-a-haughey-triumph-in-new-hands-1.369502?mode=amp

StupidLikeAFox · 27-06-2020 11:32AM

larva wrote: »

SF were again excluded by other parties from "getting the numbers" its was a clear political campaign that any other form of government without them was going to happen, hence the so called historic Grand coalition.

SF had a very good showing in the election compared to their previous results. This does not entitle them to go into govt. SF had their chance to form a govt, they tried and couldn't do it. They never seriously talked to the 1st and 3rd biggest parties and it's a weird position to think that everyone else would just stand aside and let them go into govt.

Mary Lou has complains a lot about being excluded by the old boys club but she has never said what sort govt she actually wanted. Coalition? Confidence and supply? Let's face it, she is happy to go into opposition for now with an aim to continue building for the next election

L1011 · 27-06-2020 11:32AM

Murphy is an appalling orator. Speech contents fine, speech delivery not

Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 11:34AM

Catherine Murphy like many TDs can’t even read off a speech she presumably wrote. How is it that hard ?

Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 11:38AM

I’ve listened to the other speeches good or less than good but I’m muting RBB and especially mick Barry who offers nothing and I’m sorry the constituency I’m in voted for him and inflicted him on Dáil Éireann. Sorry lads.

Itssoeasy · 27-06-2020 11:39AM

How the he’ll can RBB talk about working people when just look at his up bringing he was never in need.

uptherebels · 27-06-2020 11:48AM

larva wrote: »

The change people voted was to never let FF run the country ever again! Its insane these shysters are back in power.

I don't see how you reached that conclusion.... The only thing you can reason ably take from the election is that people don't want any one party to have a majority.

uptherebels · 27-06-2020 11:50AM

Gooey Looey wrote: »

Ah come on, are you being selectively stupid? People voted in droves for Sinn Fein to try force a change of guard

Just not enough to actually put them in government..... What was that about stupid!ðŸ™„

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 11:50AM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

How the he’ll can RBB talk about working people when just look at his up bringing he was never in need.

I used work for Dún Laoghaire Rathdown Co Co and I tell ya, he was an awful (I have more choice words that I'd prefer to use) councillor to deal with. The PBP are revolting locally.

Then again, Dún Laoghaire gave us Victor Boyhan, Mary Hanafin and John Bailey (RIP), so they have form for dumping.

Water John · 27-06-2020 11:56AM

Is Noel Grealish the first to use an ipad for his speech?

This is it · 27-06-2020 11:59AM

McGrath calling out SF

Edit: called them all out in the end

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 12:03PM

The poor cosseted over-66s. :rolleyes:

ExMachina1000 · 27-06-2020 12:15PM

Four day week with no loss of pay she says. Goodness gracious

AndrewJRenko · 27-06-2020 12:24PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Four day week with no loss of pay she says. Goodness gracious

Goodness Gracious indeed;

https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/19/news/economy/new-zealand-four-day-work-week-perpetual-guardian/index.html

BonnieSituation · 27-06-2020 12:29PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Goodness Gracious indeed;

https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/19/news/economy/new-zealand-four-day-work-week-perpetual-guardian/index.html

Sure Kellogg's introduced it over a century ago and had the same results.

Our friend above is the right wing free marketeer sort.

ExMachina1000 · 27-06-2020 12:32PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Goodness Gracious indeed;

https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/19/news/economy/new-zealand-four-day-work-week-perpetual-guardian/index.html

One company in new Zealand. Change the script

General Election and Government Formation Megathread (see post #1)

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