Masks

Seanergy · 25-06-2020 04:13PM

Yes: valved

Infection expert voted against health workers using masks as Covid shields

At a meeting of the Expert Advisory Group (EAG) on April 10, Prof Martin Cormican, HSE clinical lead on infection control, said 300,000 masks were being used daily and a new national policy on mask use would "impose a near impossible challenge to the supply chain".

This lad is trouble. This is his mindset a full week after the CDC changed their stance on mask use and started recommending wearing cloth face coverings in public settings because “a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms” and they can be contagious spreaders of the virus.

It's no wonder he invented a special rule restricting the Dail covid-19 committee to a 2 hour workload per day. He's buying time to cover his tracks.

Cormican has been on 200,000+ since 2011. Somebody needs to get a fine tooth comb out on this dangerous character.

railer201 · 25-06-2020 04:45PM

Yes: valved

ednwireland wrote: »

the guy making my sandwich wasnt wearing one, only shop assistants i have seen are chemists (and some shops whoc have been open throughout.

but then when im the only person in a 1000sq foot shop ......

There's no way I'd be eating it ! Simply not worth the risk, however small that might be atm.

Ficheall · 25-06-2020 04:49PM

Yes: surgical

Is this a boardsie?
https://player.vimeo.com/video/432243372

Away With The Fairies · 25-06-2020 04:58PM

Yes: valved

Ficheall wrote: »

Is this a boardsie?
https://player.vimeo.com/video/432243372

5g
Wearing masks is killing people

What a loon.

Arrival · 25-06-2020 06:05PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Others may. I read it one of the other threads. It was in the order of 20 or so.

But what was the source, was it just someone in a thread saying that or was it an official statistic that was released by the HSE?

is_that_so · 25-06-2020 06:07PM

No: other

Arrival wrote: »

But what was the source, was it just someone in a thread saying that or was it an official statistic that was released by the HSE?

No, it came from the companies themselves IIRC. It's probably on the main thread somewhere. Here's a link from UK Times and you can see the data at the top,

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/supermarket-staff-largely-evade-virus-in-ireland-zs2wbb9xr

weldoninhio · 25-06-2020 06:46PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

circadian wrote: »

Good for you. What about the people that need others to do so? Or are you just that selfish that you couldn't give a flying **** about anyone else?

Couldn’t give a flying xxxx

weldoninhio · 25-06-2020 06:48PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1276161122165497862?s=19

So it’s another “pretend” law, like quarantine hahahahaha

Away With The Fairies · 25-06-2020 06:54PM

Yes: valved

weldoninhio wrote: »

Couldn’t give a flying xxxx

I really hope you enjoy life on a ventilator.

is_that_so · 25-06-2020 06:57PM

No: other

weldoninhio wrote: »

So it’s another “pretend” law, like quarantine hahahahaha

It's little more than a memo just for now. The DoH will need to work on it first. It's not happening any time soon by the sounds of it.

stephenjmcd · 25-06-2020 07:03PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I really hope you enjoy life on a ventilator.

regardless of whatever the other poster said thats an utterly disgusting comment to make

stephenjmcd · 25-06-2020 07:11PM

is_that_so wrote: »

It's little more than a memo just for now. The DoH will need to work on it first. It's not happening any time soon by the sounds of it.

Harris saying they'll use the emergency legislation, but nothing drawn up yet. They'll have to discuss with dept of health and dept of transport on how to do it. No detail on how to do it yet and no detail on enforcement. Giving a time frame of next 2 weeks.

It's essentially going to be handed over to the next government

ExMachina1000 · 25-06-2020 07:27PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Harris saying they'll use the emergency legislation, but nothing drawn up yet. They'll have to discuss with dept of health and dept of transport on how to do it. No detail on how to do it yet and no detail on enforcement. Giving a time frame of next 2 weeks.

It's essentially going to be handed over to the next government

There was a chap on newstalk saying they could give free travel to people who turn up wearing a mask and charge those who dont.
Ie They cant enforce it.

Theres no legislation theres no law.

Arrival · 25-06-2020 07:44PM

is_that_so wrote: »

No, it came from the companies themselves IIRC. It's probably on the main thread somewhere. Here's a link from UK Times and you can see the data at the top,

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/supermarket-staff-largely-evade-virus-in-ireland-zs2wbb9xr

That's actually great, just really surprising. If there were reliable antibody tests available it'd be interesting to carry them out on all supermarket staff to see what those numbers are. So likely the very reduced amount of people being allowed in at a time and the high adherence to keeping physical distance in the supermarkets (up until recently at least) must've been effective at keeping them safe. With more people being allowed in at once and some people being less mindful of the health guidelines though you'd hope this doesn't change, but hopefully a high adherence to masks will contribute positively towards that

is_that_so · 25-06-2020 08:17PM

No: other

Arrival wrote: »

That's actually great, just really surprising. If there were reliable antibody tests available it'd be interesting to carry them out on all supermarket staff to see what those numbers are. So likely the very reduced amount of people being allowed in at a time and the high adherence to keeping physical distance in the supermarkets (up until recently at least) must've been effective at keeping them safe. With more people being allowed in at once and some people being less mindful of the health guidelines though you'd hope this doesn't change, but hopefully a high adherence to masks will contribute positively towards that

Oh I think supermarkets and small shops, some anecdotal stuff aside, have been models in how to control crowds. People too have played their part very well by being diligent on the 2m. All in all it has turned out to be a very low risk environment.

ednwireland · 25-06-2020 09:55PM

No: other

you do realise the only reason the government are only stirring the mask issue now is to increase the numbers on public transport not health not safety

weldoninhio · 25-06-2020 09:57PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

ednwireland wrote: »

you do realise the only reason the government are only stirring the mask issue now is to increase the numbers on public transport not health not safety

They have to be seen to be doing something for that chicken littles.

Seanergy · 25-06-2020 10:37PM

Yes: valved

If you had seen Leo's puss face when Michael Martin was upping the masks in the Dail you might hazard a guess that this last minute ditch effort on the masks is just an FG insurance bet.

saabsaab · 25-06-2020 10:53PM

Yes: homemade

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

There was a chap on newstalk saying they could give free travel to people who turn up wearing a mask and charge those who dont.
Ie They cant enforce it.

Theres no legislation theres no law.

Wouldn't take long to legislate and make a law as they did with the travel.

Midlife crisis man · 25-06-2020 11:13PM

If the government are making wearing masks mandatory, are they going to be giving out free masks to everybody?

Jim_Hodge · 25-06-2020 11:20PM

Yes: homemade

Midlife crisis man wrote: »

If the government are making wearing masks mandatory, are they going to be giving out free masks to everybody?

No. Why would they? Easy to make some. And everybody doesn't use public transport either,

circadian · 25-06-2020 11:24PM

Yes: other

weldoninhio wrote: »

Couldn’t give a flying xxxx

Thanks for confirming something I had long believed.

weldoninhio · 26-06-2020 07:17AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

circadian wrote: »

Thanks for confirming something I had long believed.

Virus is pretty much extinct in the community. Chances of me catching it, then spreading to someone else is minuscule. Probably more likely to bump into someone accidentally and knock them under a bus.

odyssey06 · 26-06-2020 07:35AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Virus is pretty much extinct in the community. Chances of me catching it, then spreading to someone else is minuscule. Probably more likely to bump into someone accidentally and knock them under a bus.

Only because of the restrictions we have had on travel, closing businesses, working from home, no schools. That can't continue indefinitely.

As things open back up again, we will need more capacity on public transport, more people working, allow people's lives to get back to normal.
That's where masks come in. A measure to prevent a second wave while allowing businesses and society to resume. And a small price to pay for it compared with the costs of the lockdown restrictions.

weldoninhio · 26-06-2020 08:09AM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

odyssey06 wrote: »

Only because of the restrictions we have had on travel, closing businesses, working from home, no schools. That can't continue indefinitely.

As things open back up again, we will need more capacity on public transport, more people working, allow people's lives to get back to normal.
That's where masks come in. A measure to prevent a second wave while allowing businesses and society to resume. And a small price to pay for it compared with the costs of the lockdown restrictions.

Lockdown was never needed. Social distancing alone more than likely would have had the same effect.

odyssey06 · 26-06-2020 08:15AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Lockdown was never needed. Social distancing alone more than likely would have had the same effect.

Fantasy revisionism here. Social distancing isn't always possible.

is_that_so · 26-06-2020 08:57AM

No: other

saabsaab wrote: »

Wouldn't take long to legislate and make a law as they did with the travel.

They need the regulations worked out first and a minimum 2 week timeframe to get the ducks in a row is suggested. It's more likely to coincide with the final phase at this stage.

Seanergy · 26-06-2020 09:33AM

Yes: valved

weldoninhio wrote: »

Lockdown was never needed. Social distancing alone more than likely would have had the same effect.

Lockdown was never needed. Masks alone more than likely would have had the same effect.

your getting closer keep trying.

Away With The Fairies · 26-06-2020 09:34AM

Yes: valved

Are they going to step up on an education campaign on masks along with the mandatory wearing of masks?

It's all good making masks mandatory, but there's people who don't have a clue on how to wear masks.

It's just shows what a previous poster has said, they just want to increase capacity on public transport but not really interested in anything else.

silver2020 · 26-06-2020 09:39AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Virus is pretty much extinct in the community. Chances of me catching it, then spreading to someone else is minuscule. Probably more likely to bump into someone accidentally and knock them under a bus.

Similar comments were made in Germany too just 3 weeks ago.

Yes virus is pretty much extinct, but we are an open country with open border to Northern Ireland which has no restrictions on travel into Britain where the Virus is still spiking in many areas.

All we need to do is to respect each other and as much as possible keep social distance.

The other advantage of wearing coverings in enclosed areas where social distancing if not feasible, is not catching other viruses from people. Regular colds and other viruses have not gone away, but have seen a dramatic drop as well.

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