Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

ceadaoin. · 25-06-2020 06:45PM

otnomart wrote: »

In today's news:

Austrian ski resort Ischgl, has record rate of coronavirus antibodies, study finds
Source Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-austria-ischgl/austrian-ski-resort-has-record-rate-of-coronavirus-antibodies-study-finds-idUSKBN23W1OF

Also, the CDC have said that their testing has shown that for every confirmed case, there are 10 others with antibodies which would make the true number of infections in the US more than 20 million. Its been speculated all along that there were way more infections than the official number and studies now seem to be proving that.

stephenjmcd · 25-06-2020 06:49PM

Taken from a post on the aviation forum seeing as travel is up for discussion after the announcement this evening. Post below is from yesterday afternoon on relation to Aerlingus

Service increases/adjustments on following services from 20 JUL;

Belfast City-London Heathrow (Planned 12 weekly)
Cork-London Heathrow (4 to 7 weekly effective 22/06*)
Dublin-Amsterdam (7 to 10 weekly)
Dublin-Boston (4 to 7 weekly)
Dublin-Faro Algarve (7 to 12 weekly)
Dublin-Lanzarote (7 to 8 weekly)
Dublin-London Heathrow (28 to 35 weekly)
Dublin-Malaga (10 to 19 weekly)
Dublin-Manchester (3 to 7 weekly)
Dublin-Paris CDG (7 to 14 weekly)

Below EU services resuming ops from 20JUL:

Cork-Amsterdam (4 weekly)
Dublin-Barcelona (5 weekly)
Dublin-Berlin Tegel (4 weekly)
Dublin-Bourgas (4 weekly)
Dublin-Brussels (4 weekly)
Dublin-Izmir (3 weekly)
Dublin-Lyon (3 weekly)
Dublin-Nice (4 weekly)
Dublin-Split (3 weekly)
Dublin-Venice (3 weekly)
Dublin-Verona (3 weekly)

TA resumption subject to change from 20JUL:

Dublin-San Francisco (Planned 3 weekly)

tom1ie · 25-06-2020 07:03PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Taken from a post on the aviation forum seeing as travel is up for discussion after the announcement this evening. Post below is from yesterday afternoon on relation to Aerlingus

Service increases/adjustments on following services from 20 JUL;

Belfast City-London Heathrow (Planned 12 weekly)
Cork-London Heathrow (4 to 7 weekly effective 22/06*)
Dublin-Amsterdam (7 to 10 weekly)
Dublin-Boston (4 to 7 weekly)
Dublin-Faro Algarve (7 to 12 weekly)
Dublin-Lanzarote (7 to 8 weekly)
Dublin-London Heathrow (28 to 35 weekly)
Dublin-Malaga (10 to 19 weekly)
Dublin-Manchester (3 to 7 weekly)
Dublin-Paris CDG (7 to 14 weekly)

Below EU services resuming ops from 20JUL:

Cork-Amsterdam (4 weekly)
Dublin-Barcelona (5 weekly)
Dublin-Berlin Tegel (4 weekly)
Dublin-Bourgas (4 weekly)
Dublin-Brussels (4 weekly)
Dublin-Izmir (3 weekly)
Dublin-Lyon (3 weekly)
Dublin-Nice (4 weekly)
Dublin-Split (3 weekly)
Dublin-Venice (3 weekly)
Dublin-Verona (3 weekly)

TA resumption subject to change from 20JUL:

Dublin-San Francisco (Planned 3 weekly)

28-35 weekly flights to a country that’s getting over 1000 new cases a day is asking for trouble.

Boggles · 25-06-2020 07:05PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1276220025221890055?s=19

Leo Varadkar said he thinks that “when this is all over” we will need to have an assessment or inquiry as to what we did right or wrong, and what we could have done better or differently

Tribunal?

We will be on Covid 29 by the time those findings are published and ignored.

NH2013 · 25-06-2020 07:07PM

tom1ie wrote: »

28-35 weekly flights to a country that’s getting over 1000 new cases a day is asking for trouble.

It's going from 28 weekly flights currently to 35 weekly flights, or basically from 4 daily flights to 5, not a massive amount of flights at all considering in normal times there's over 16 flights to Heathrow each day and 6-8 each day to Gatwick on Aer Lingus alone, still drastically reduced flight numbers.

mloc123 · 25-06-2020 07:08PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Italy and Spain still have cases too

I would be fearful travelling anywhere abroad this year

Stay at home so

Boggles · 25-06-2020 07:16PM

hmmm wrote: »

If you've been monitoring the vaccine thread - manufacturing is underway now, and at scale, for the leading vaccine contenders. If the vaccine is successful and is approved, there will be immediate supply. There are a number of Phase 3 trials starting and started in the coming weeks.

Best case currently is probably a few tens to even a few hundred of millions of doses by the end of the year, with widescale availability early next year. Best case, and we'll know if this is likely by perhaps end of August.

That doesn't mean we won't have to get two injections, or one "good" vaccine next year and a better one a year or two later.

Best case scenario according to Fauci is Vaccine in early 2021 with 200-300 million doses. 7.8 billion people on the planet, 60% is 4.6 billions doses. So that is 1/15th of what is required.

Like I said having the vaccine is only one part, administrating it will be just as difficult.

I am as pro vaccine as they come, But I won't be offering my arm up for the first batch of them, that's for fúcking sure.

And I won't be the only one.

silverharp · 25-06-2020 07:18PM

Boggles wrote: »

Best case scenario according to Fauci is Vaccine in early 2021 with 200-300 million doses. 7.8 billion people on the planet, 60% is 4.6 billions doses. So that is 1/15th of what is required.

Like I said having the vaccine is only one part, administrating it will be just as difficult.

I am as pro vaccine as they come, But I won't be offering my arm up for the first batch of them, that's for fúcking sure.

And I won't be the only one.

I'd have no interest in an early vaccine and wouldn't let my kids have them either

s1ippy · 25-06-2020 07:18PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I haven't seen a bus driver in Cork City not wearing one, dunno about anywhere else

I was in the car from 9 - 5 today, in all four corners of Cork City and county, from Glanmire to Ballincollig to Kanturk and Michelstown and every single driver of every bus I saw had a mask and gloves on.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1276213297604419587?s=19
He must have seen the thread. I'm surprised the man can stand up straight at all without a spine in him.

ACitizenErased · 25-06-2020 07:19PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Taken from a post on the aviation forum seeing as travel is up for discussion after the announcement this evening. Post below is from yesterday afternoon on relation to Aerlingus

Service increases/adjustments on following services from 20 JUL;

Belfast City-London Heathrow (Planned 12 weekly)
Cork-London Heathrow (4 to 7 weekly effective 22/06*)
Dublin-Amsterdam (7 to 10 weekly)
Dublin-Boston (4 to 7 weekly)
Dublin-Faro Algarve (7 to 12 weekly)
Dublin-Lanzarote (7 to 8 weekly)
Dublin-London Heathrow (28 to 35 weekly)
Dublin-Malaga (10 to 19 weekly)
Dublin-Manchester (3 to 7 weekly)
Dublin-Paris CDG (7 to 14 weekly)

Below EU services resuming ops from 20JUL:

Cork-Amsterdam (4 weekly)
Dublin-Barcelona (5 weekly)
Dublin-Berlin Tegel (4 weekly)
Dublin-Bourgas (4 weekly)
Dublin-Brussels (4 weekly)
Dublin-Izmir (3 weekly)
Dublin-Lyon (3 weekly)
Dublin-Nice (4 weekly)
Dublin-Split (3 weekly)
Dublin-Venice (3 weekly)
Dublin-Verona (3 weekly)

TA resumption subject to change from 20JUL:

Dublin-San Francisco (Planned 3 weekly)

Furthermore, Ryanair from Cork from July 1st:
Alicante
Bordeaux
Budapest
Carcassonne
Faro
Girona
Gdansk
Katowice
Lanzarote
Liverpool
London Gatwick
London Luton
London Stansted
Las Palmas
Malaga
Malta
Milan Bergamo
Naples
Palma
Poznan
Reus
Tenerife
Wroclaw

is_that_so · 25-06-2020 07:19PM

This is a piece on the expected surge of cases in Minnesota with all the protests, thankfully unrealised. Covers a good bit of ground on other areas too.

https://www.wired.com/story/what-minnesotas-protests-are-revealing-about-covid-19-spread/

ACitizenErased · 25-06-2020 07:20PM

is_that_so wrote: »

This is a piece on the expected surge of cases in Minnesota with all the protests, thankfully unrealised. Covers a good bit of ground on other areas too.

https://www.wired.com/story/what-minnesotas-protests-are-revealing-about-covid-19-spread/

As far as I know there has been very little places if any that reported a surge from the protests.

GeorgeBailey · 25-06-2020 07:26PM

Boggles wrote: »

Tribunal?

We will be on Covid 29 by the time those findings are published and ignored.

so the findings will be published in 2029?

Boggles · 25-06-2020 07:30PM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

so the findings will be published in 2029?

Yeah, they are going to name it Irish Tribunal Warp Speed.

They are going to knock it out for €300m + VAT + Expenses + €250 million for inflation.

Eod100 · 25-06-2020 07:32PM

mloc123 wrote: »

Stay at home so

TBF OP was speaking from their pov. Guess they will by sounds of it. Will come down to personal responsibility at end of day. Nothing wrong with people not wanting or wanting to go sure

is_that_so · 25-06-2020 07:33PM

Boggles wrote: »

Tribunal?

We will be on Covid 29 by the time those findings are published and ignored.

Most of it is HSE-related and they are working on it themselves. CMO also looks like he'd be a fan of minute self-analysis! The two major issues are the testing system and the ability of the HSE to cope.

tom1ie · 25-06-2020 07:33PM

NH2013 wrote: »

It's going from 28 weekly flights currently to 35 weekly flights, or basically from 4 daily flights to 5, not a massive amount of flights at all considering in normal times there's over 16 flights to Heathrow each day and 6-8 each day to Gatwick on Aer Lingus alone, still drastically reduced flight numbers.

Yes, to a country that is getting a 1000+ cases a day.
Are you happy with that setup?

tom1ie · 25-06-2020 07:36PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

As far as I know there has been very little places if any that reported a surge from the protests.

USA?
How de we know the cases going through the roof over there aren’t down to or in some way because of the protests?

ceadaoin. · 25-06-2020 07:39PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

As far as I know there has been very little places if any that reported a surge from the protests.

Well its been 3 or 4 weeks since they started now so we'll know soon enough. As for where I live, the person in charge of contact tracing said yesterday that 12% of new cases attended a protest. Not huge but the protests themselves here weren't huge either so it may be different elsewhere.

Non solum non ambulabit · 25-06-2020 07:41PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Stopping the Cheltenham goers or quarantining them - that would be one for your list of things to do differently Leo. Also you did a cead Mille Failte to the incoming Italian flights Leo. That should have stopped.

How would you do that. At that point there were at least 100 flights a day going to the UK. All more or less full.

Unearthly · 25-06-2020 07:50PM

New Jersey now doing probable deaths which explains the 1700+ deaths for today

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/06/nj-reports-probable-coronavirus-deaths-for-1st-time-death-toll-now-at-14872-with-170k-total-positive-tests.html

snotboogie · 25-06-2020 07:53PM

Boggles wrote: »

Best case scenario according to Fauci is Vaccine in early 2021 with 200-300 million doses. 7.8 billion people on the planet, 60% is 4.6 billions doses. So that is 1/15th of what is required.

Like I said having the vaccine is only one part, administrating it will be just as difficult.

I am as pro vaccine as they come, But I won't be offering my arm up for the first batch of them, that's for fúcking sure.

And I won't be the only one.

Ya it'll take 12 months or so to roll out. Higher risk populations like the elderly will obviously get the vaccine first. Things will continue to ramp up as it's rolled out. There be no vaccine party because it will be a gradual return to complete normal.

fr336 · 25-06-2020 08:36PM

I'm beginning to think sending everyone back to work IS the way forward. If they don't play by the rules, sack them. Letting most of the country stay off work leads to scenes like Bournemouth beach in England.

owlbethere · 25-06-2020 08:39PM

From a Facebook group I'm on, it was mentioned that there's a cluster surrounding a nursery in the UK. I googled it but there's nothing in the news about it. Maybe it might be reported tomorrow or over the weekend. 20 people down sick and in isolation and that's between children, staff and parents. I don't know about the situation over there. I don't know if nurseries and creches are operating at full capacity or if its just for essential workers. I think its for essential workers for now. If they were at full capacity, there could be more people infected within that cluster.

It's a worrying development going forward for us when creches and schools open up.

Hector Savage · 25-06-2020 08:40PM

snotboogie wrote: »

Ya it'll take 12 months or so to roll out. Higher risk populations like the elderly will obviously get the vaccine first. Things will continue to ramp up as it's rolled out. There be no vaccine party because it will be a gradual return to complete normal.

growleaves · 25-06-2020 08:40PM

fr336 wrote: »

I'm beginning to think sending everyone back to work IS the way forward. If they don't play by the rules, sack them. Letting most of the country stay off work leads to scenes like Bournemouth beach in England.

Er well if they're sacked then they might as well go to the beach

owlbethere · 25-06-2020 08:41PM

fr336 wrote: »

I'm beginning to think sending everyone back to work IS the way forward. If they don't play by the rules, sack them. Letting most of the country stay off work leads to scenes like Bournemouth beach in England.

The government missed one. The covid19 payment should have been tied in with compliance. Anyone caught breaking the rules (or behaving like a dick eg spitting in garda faces and claiming virus) the payment should have been stopped for them.

owlbethere · 25-06-2020 08:46PM

snotboogie wrote: »

Ya it'll take 12 months or so to roll out. Higher risk populations like the elderly will obviously get the vaccine first. Things will continue to ramp up as it's rolled out. There be no vaccine party because it will be a gradual return to complete normal.

We know when a vaccine is formed and produced,, there won't be enough for everyone. Not straight away.

Wouldn't it make more sense to roll out the vaccine towards the younger population instead of picking and choosing the older population?

For a few reasons:
1) the younger population moves about more and they would be considered spreaders.
2) to minimise complications in adults who would generally have some more decades to live.

ACitizenErased · 25-06-2020 08:48PM

Fauci is talking about the American vaccines, not the others. Astrazeneca alone have 400 million doses coming of the Oxford vaccine for Europe at the end of the year.

stephenjmcd · 25-06-2020 08:57PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fauci is talking about the American vaccines, not the others. Astrazeneca alone have 400 million doses coming of the Oxford vaccine for Europe at the end of the year.

Think I read that the EU vaccine group is also talking with J&J about a large order also.

But yes the Oxford vaccine is committed to 400 million doses by year end pending approval

Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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