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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,897 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Yes, that’s still in place too.

    My partner is American and so we can travel. And travel back (quarantining of course). Heading over in early august to see her family and attend a wedding (in a northern state that is declining in numbers). Will be interesting to see how people are feeling over there

    You're lucky, enjoy! We live in the US but aren't American or permanent residents (here on visas), so we are basically stuck here for the foreseeable future until the travel ban is lifted. I'd love to go see my family :(


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    You're lucky, enjoy! We live in the US but aren't American or permanent residents (here on visas), so we are basically stuck here for the foreseeable future until the travel ban is lifted. I'd love to go see my family :(

    Yes, we are lucky. 4 passports between us.....Irish, British (me), American and Canadian (her). Gives us plenty of options in a pandemic :)

    Sorry you’re stuck. Hope you’re in a state that’s doing okay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭maebee


    Arghus wrote: »
    Amazing how one poster posting facts just gets on people's nerves.

    Kermit is negative, sure, and he posts negative stuff, but I'd still rather see it and make my own mind up than be oblivious.

    Than be oblivious to what? We are beating this virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    maebee wrote: »
    Than be oblivious to what? We are beating this virus.

    Globalization is the keyword.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,623 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    maebee wrote: »
    Than be oblivious to what? We are beating this virus.

    Yes, but Kermit usually posts about further afield than just ourselves. And globally the virus is still going strong, even picking up speed.

    Now that mightn't seem too relevant to you, fair enough, but I don't think it's too off topic in the main Covid thread in the Covid forum.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    In Ireland George Floyd would have been recorded as a COVID death.

    Evidence for this claim?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Evidence for this claim?

    Hyperbole :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭maebee


    Arghus wrote: »
    Yes, but Kermit usually posts about further afield than just ourselves. And globally the virus is still going strong, even picking up speed.

    Now that mightn't seem too relevant to you, fair enough, but I don't think it's too off topic in the main Covid thread in the Covid forum.

    Kermit is not alone in the pessimism stakes. Can you and Kermit not state that we have done fantastically well in suppressing this virus?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Renjit wrote: »
    Hyperbole :pac:

    Absolutely but I would be interested to see if that poster would try to back up his claim with some actual evidence for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Every single person who steps foot into a hospital is considered suspected unless proven otherwise. Everyone is tested.

    I know someone sent to CUH A&E with chest breathing issues but no test done, bloods ecg etc., done then sent home with steroids and antibiotics, no temperature


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I know someone sent to CUH A&E with chest breathing issues but no test done, bloods ecg etc., done then sent home with steroids and antibiotics, no temperature

    Why would this be? Have the testing protocols changed again recently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Why would this be? Have the testing protocols changed again recently?

    I was sure with her symptoms the hospital would test but no Covid test


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Absolutely. Many died with Covid but not necessarily from Covid.

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    This thread is just bizarre now. Positive news is self evident - cases and deaths are down, lockdown is ending across the islands. Great stuff. Why are some posters (actually probably the majority here judging by the likes such posts get) so angry at anyone who posts facts? It's a discussion forum for debate. Not flat out bullying of one or two posters because the truth hurts. What do these people want? Page after page of "things are just great, well done all". It's because of the cautious amongst us within governments that things weren't far worse and the economy even slower to reopen. As far as I'm aware, and feel free to correct me anyone, nobody knows what the virus is doing now - maybe it has slowed itself down naturally? Hooray, happy days. Maybe simply relying on the population to exert their brains and observe social distancing across the land has worked wonders? I'm sure it had an effect. Or maybe the country shutting up shut almost completely for a good two months (the last month has been far more normal) stopped the spread. The key was always spread and the virus having less places to get to. Less cramped offices, less packed trains, etc. Nationwide, certainly in Ireland and less so in the UK, it's come to a grinding hault but we should assume it is still out there just as contagious and deadly as it was in March. This may not be the case, but it's certainly a strong possibility as there is no factual alternative currently. Just as it started with a handful of people across the country and developed into over 40,000 deaths in the UK, we should assume it could do the same again. If everyone plays their part, the worst is surely over. Businesses certainly seem willing to. Hopefully the public are the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Texas and California have both respectively posted an increase of over 5,000 new cases today, new records.

    Arizona reports another 3,598 new cases and stays at near record pace.

    The death toll at just under 900 is the highest in the United States since June 7th .

    From The Guardian

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/jun/24/coronavirus-live-news-update-dr-fauci-disturbing-us-case-surge-brazil-covid-19-infections-cases-latest-updates
    Seven US states see highest-ever hospitalisations

    The Washington Post reports that seven US states have seen their highest hospitalisations of coronavirus patients so far in the pandemic.

    The states are Arizona, Arkansas, California, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas.

    According to the Washington post, Tuesday saw the highest number of coronavirus-related deaths nationwide since June 7, with over 800 reported, and:

    Texas and California on Tuesday eclipsed 5,000 new cases of the novel coronavirus over a 24-hour span, records in those states. Arizona, Nevada and Missouri also logged new single-day highs. Overall, 33 states and US territories now have a rolling average of new cases that is higher than last week.

    The increasing death rate seems to be starting to come through now after two weeks of surge. Only saving grace is we are not in flu season.

    But with hospitals maxing out capacity in states like Texas, Arizona and Florida it's not a great prognosis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Peter Mark prices increasing but they are still booked out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,623 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    maebee wrote: »
    Kermit is not alone in the pessimism stakes. Can you and Kermit not state that we have done fantastically well in suppressing this virus?

    Ireland has done very well. It's great to be where we are at the moment. It would be foolish to say otherwise. I have no problem saying Ireland has done well, because it's true: if something is true then I don't have a problem saying it.

    Though it would be equally foolish to not recognise that while we have weathered the storm of the first acute stage of the crisis - and that is great and something to be happy about - that there is in all likelihood a lot of road still left to run in all of this.

    I don't regard that as pessimism, just being honest about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Peter Mark prices increasing but they are still booked out

    Would anyone that goes there notice the increase?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 Strath2020


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Would anyone that goes there notice the increase?

    €45 - 60 euro extra on first appointment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Excuse my ignorance, I know this is an Irish forum obviously, but what is the Irish policy for overseas visitors coming in and Irish people coming home from abroad? Everyone seems to think the current UK policy of 14 day quarantine is stupid and unable to be enforced but I mean surely this is the only way or something like it? This could have saved a lot of hassle if implemented in March. In fact close down the borders for a full month in March and stop it getting in via various routes. Government could have paid those working in the travel industry rather than most of the country. Because as far as I can see if it can get in from abroad still it can produce significant clusters around countries. And this will be put to the test when airlines start properly flying again in July and August.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    This is what policy failure looks like

    https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1275537207886000128

    Houston says it will run out of hospital bed capacity in 11 days.

    https://twitter.com/doug_hanks/status/1275490869043486720

    https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/1275061694604115968


    Well, I guess 75 year olds are not on the beaches, at Disneyland or attending tattoo parlours...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,822 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    So ya Ireland seem to be doing well, very few ICU cases, great news :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,149 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Might have been mentioned before, but last week 18,368 tests were done in Ireland, and 97 were positive. So the positivity rate is only 0.5%.

    I know posting negative things can be frowned on, and this is 99.5% negative - that sounds good to me. Still a fairly decent number of tests being done (roughly 2,600 a day), so it's not for a lack of trying either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Australia reports 29 new cases and 1 new death. Highest case number since May 15th and it's first death in four weeks.

    South Korea reports 51 new cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Australia reports 29 new cases and 1 new death. Highest case number since May 15th and it's first death in four weeks.

    South Korea reports 51 new cases.

    The world is fecked - batten down the hatches now


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Vietnam's active cases down to 21 with no community spread in over two months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    :confused:

    He's right so not sure what there's to be confused about.

    If someone for example was in hosptial already with a life limiting illness and contracted covid and subsequently passed away, their death is considered a covid death even though they had a life limiting illness.
    Even though covid may not have been the ultimate cause of death.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Strath2020 wrote: »
    €45 - 60 euro extra on first appointment

    "Might apply to some customers"

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/peter-mark-to-raise-prices-by-up-to-60-for-some-customers-to-fix-home-dye-jobs-and-long-regrowth-39309597.html

    They're going to be doing more work on some people who need saving after bad DIY haircuts etc so of course more work and extra services required means you've to pay for said services


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Renjit wrote: »
    If only the world was full of good news. I wouldn't have to wear my rose tinted glasses everywhere :cool:

    But some people seem to wear black tinted glasses here all the time. Bit like that cool smiley you used.
    Literally seeking out any negative bit they can find and pop it up here. Spurious claims and Mays and Could be's the whole shebang. Like a little doomsday collection.

    Not sure why they do it. Is it the private extension of clickbait, looking for 'thanks'? Is it attention seeking? Is it a misguided attempt of scaring people into vigilance? Are they trembling messes who cant help themselves? I don't know but It just doesn't seem healthy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,553 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    But some people seem to wear black tinted glasses here all the time. Bit like that cool smiley you used.
    Literally seeking out any negative bit they can find and pop it up here. Spurious claims and Mays and Could be's the whole shebang. Like a little doomsday collection.

    Not sure why they do it. Is it the private extension of clickbait, looking for 'thanks'? Is it attention seeking? Is it a misguided attempt of scaring people into vigilance? Are they trembling messes who cant help themselves? I don't know but It just doesn't seem healthy.

    There's a complete brushing over of the good some countries have done to combat the spread, especially in Europe while looking to far flung parts of the world to find bad news that might scare people back into line.

    Presenting seasonal conditions relating to spread as fact when they are merely opinion, the use of the phrase "strap yourself in for the second wave" from a certain poster sums up a small cohert that are nowhere near reflective of the general attitude im encountering in public in daily life, one of cautious optimisim. People in general feel more optimistic than 4 months ago but also continue to take measures to stay safe. Reading this thread at times would be bad for your health and yesterday it was at its peak. You'd swear we had just announced hundreds of deaths and cases the way some posters were going on.

    There's little point in the continual posting regarding states in the US, they're a mess, have been since the start and lead by a clown, the same as Brazil so trying to make any comparisons there is pointless.

    I've also seen posts of 50 cases in South Korea, 50 in a population of 50 million.

    If we all kept looking for negatives across the globe most people probably wouldn't leave the house which I suspect some don't.


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