FF/FG/Green Next Government

Truthvader · 23-06-2020 04:20PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Simple answer.

In the general election campaign, people were surrounded by noise and competing voices and false narratives and fake promises of change as well as silly social media campaigns.

The singular focus on the coronavirus crisis has helped people to look at what actually happens in government, how leaders respond under pressure, and what they do. It was very unusual, because it is extremely rare that single events affect everyone to that extent - arguably never in Ireland since independence - and that has allowed for people to see better than ever how government works.

Mmmmmm reading the posts here I am not so sure. No evidence that anyone grew up over the last three months or got any less thick. Expect if and when an election is called we can rely on the Irish to distinguish themselves again. Although its the same everywhere, Trump Johnston, the bloke in Brazil. Bread and Circuses.

James Brown · 23-06-2020 04:37PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Mmmmmm reading the posts here I am not so sure. No evidence that anyone grew up over the last three months or got any less thick. Expect if and when an election is called we can rely on the Irish to distinguish themselves again. Although its the same everywhere, Trump Johnston, the bloke in Brazil. Bread and Circuses.

So the poll is wrong or anyone supporting FG is 'thick'? That's not very nice.

James Brown · 23-06-2020 04:39PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Mary Lou was on Radio and Claire Byrne and Tonight Show many times over the past 3 months. She not very good at hiding

Not to forget her having a bout of Covid and needing rest up for a few weeks despite some posters surmising both herself and Tubirdy might be pretending and doing so for PR purposes.

blanch152 · 23-06-2020 05:05PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Mmmmmm reading the posts here I am not so sure. No evidence that anyone grew up over the last three months or got any less thick. Expect if and when an election is called we can rely on the Irish to distinguish themselves again. Although its the same everywhere, Trump Johnston, the bloke in Brazil. Bread and Circuses.

I don't think it applies to posters on here, I am talking about the generally more intelligent electorate.

There is an over-representation of people who vote Sinn Fein or PBP on boards. In fact, the greatest over-representation is of people who call themselves republicans but don't vote for SF.

RandomViewer · 23-06-2020 05:12PM

Water John wrote: »

MM has no Plan B, but FF have. MM will step aside and FF will do a deal with SF. What's their choice, go for a GE with 14% in the polls?

13% and dropping,

LawBoy2018 · 23-06-2020 05:14PM

blanch152 wrote: »

I don't think it applies to posters on here, I am talking about the generally more intelligent electorate.

There is an over-representation of people who vote Sinn Fein or PBP on boards. In fact, the greatest over-representation is of people who call themselves republicans but don't vote for SF.

What are you basing that on? Your own biases, perhaps?

The_Conductor · 23-06-2020 05:31PM

blanch152 wrote: »

In fact, the greatest over-representation is of people who call themselves republicans but don't vote for SF.

There are lots of reasons for staunch Republicans not to vote SF- not least of all because of vehement disagreements over their economic policies. Being a Republican- does not necessarily mean you have to be Leftwing. It also doesn't mean you support FF or indeed that there is any party in this jurisdiction who represent you and your point of view.

I'd say there is a significant cohort of Republicans out there who are voting for a plethora of single issue local candidates- if they at least concur on that single issue local matter (be it a new road- or whatever).

Neither SF or FF have any right to imagine that the votes of Republicans are automatically theirs for the taking, and both would be well advised to consider this.

Working class heroes · 23-06-2020 05:46PM

The_Conductor wrote: »

There are lots of reasons for staunch Republicans not to vote SF- not least of all because of vehement disagreements over their economic policies. Being a Republican- does not necessarily mean you have to be Leftwing. It also doesn't mean you support FF or indeed that there is any party in this jurisdiction who represent you and your point of view.

I'd say there is a significant cohort of Republicans out there who are voting for a plethora of single issue local candidates- if they at least concur on that single issue local matter (be it a new road- or whatever).

Neither SF or FF have any right to imagine that the votes of Republicans are automatically theirs for the taking, and both would be well advised to consider this.

Excellent post.

FrancieBrady · 23-06-2020 05:54PM

The_Conductor wrote: »

There are lots of reasons for staunch Republicans not to vote SF- not least of all because of vehement disagreements over their economic policies. Being a Republican- does not necessarily mean you have to be Leftwing. It also doesn't mean you support FF or indeed that there is any party in this jurisdiction who represent you and your point of view.

I'd say there is a significant cohort of Republicans out there who are voting for a plethora of single issue local candidates- if they at least concur on that single issue local matter (be it a new road- or whatever).

Neither SF or FF have any right to imagine that the votes of Republicans are automatically theirs for the taking, and both would be well advised to consider this.

I'd agree, as a republican whose vote is owned by no party.

Shefwedfan · 23-06-2020 06:19PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Mary Lou was on Radio and Claire Byrne and Tonight Show many times over the past 3 months. She not very good at hiding

Funny how I said poorly run parties and you automatically thought of Mary Lou

dundalkfc10 · 23-06-2020 06:27PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Funny how I said poorly run parties and you automatically thought of Mary Lou

Everybody knew who you were talking about. It's all you do talk about

Going by election results FG is getting run badly and SF are on the up btw

James Brown · 23-06-2020 07:12PM

blanch152 wrote: »

I don't think it applies to posters on here, I am talking about the generally more intelligent electorate.

There is an over-representation of people who vote Sinn Fein or PBP on boards. In fact, the greatest over-representation is of people who call themselves republicans but don't vote for SF.

Don't sell yourself short Blanch.

Do you not think that FG believing any criticism is a SF led conspiracy might be a little nutty?
I do like the way PBP are getting a mention, but it tears holes in your shinner conspiracy.
The excuses are becoming a little worrying. Would the people who support FG in the polls be more smaterer than the people didn't vote FG in the election?

Numbers wise surely, as you yourself believe, people are coming back to FG based on the poll. Does that mean they were thick but got smarterer?

Shefwedfan · 23-06-2020 07:19PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Everybody knew who you were talking about. It's all you do talk about

Going by election results FG is getting run badly and SF are on the up btw

You confirmed you see SF as a poorly run party.

EmmetSpiceland · 23-06-2020 07:55PM

WE NEED A GOVERNMENT OF CHANGE, NOT THIS SHAM BEING DRIVEN BY THE SNOWFLAKES AND THEIR VIRTUE SIGNALLING.

Truthvader · 23-06-2020 09:58PM

The_Conductor wrote: »

There are lots of reasons for staunch Republicans not to vote SF- not least of all because of vehement disagreements over their economic policies. Being a Republican- does not necessarily mean you have to be Leftwing. It also doesn't mean you support FF or indeed that there is any party in this jurisdiction who represent you and your point of view.

I'd say there is a significant cohort of Republicans out there who are voting for a plethora of single issue local candidates- if they at least concur on that single issue local matter (be it a new road- or whatever).

Neither SF or FF have any right to imagine that the votes of Republicans are automatically theirs for the taking, and both would be well advised to consider this.

Now this is new and interesting. Please let us have a definition of a "staunch Republican? Fascinated.

Water John · 23-06-2020 10:06PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

WE NEED A GOVERNMENT OF CHANGE, NOT THIS SHAM BEING DRIVEN BY THE SNOWFLAKES AND THEIR VIRTUE SIGNALLING.

Shouting won't change my opinion.

Shefwedfan · 23-06-2020 10:19PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

WE NEED A GOVERNMENT OF CHANGE, NOT THIS SHAM BEING DRIVEN BY THE SNOWFLAKES AND THEIR VIRTUE SIGNALLING.

What’s a government of change?

Ha Long Bay · 23-06-2020 10:22PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What’s a government of change?

WE COULD HAVE USED APPLE'S 120BILLION EURO TO INVEST IN THE BANKING SECTOR IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE FAI CARTEL AND THEIR AUSTERITY POLICIES.

https://thisinterestsme.com/tools/journal-comment-generator.php

James Brown · 23-06-2020 10:25PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

WE NEED A GOVERNMENT OF CHANGE, NOT THIS SHAM BEING DRIVEN BY THE SNOWFLAKES AND THEIR VIRTUE SIGNALLING.

Snowflakes don't tend to make light of a deadly pandemic by lifting empty speeches from Netflix. You're right on the virtue signaling.

Shefwedfan · 24-06-2020 07:51AM

john4321 wrote: »

WE COULD HAVE USED APPLE'S 120BILLION EURO TO INVEST IN THE BANKING SECTOR IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE FAI CARTEL AND THEIR AUSTERITY POLICIES.

https://thisinterestsme.com/tools/journal-comment-generator.php

Im sure Mary Lou said it was one hundred million billion......

dundalkfc10 · 24-06-2020 07:58AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Im sure Mary Lou said it was one hundred million billion......

Leo 'I wanna talk to her to tell her I don't wanna talk to her'

Wonder what film he got that from

Shefwedfan · 24-06-2020 08:16AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Leo 'I wanna talk to her to tell her I don't wanna talk to her'

Wonder what film he got that from

dundalkfc10 · 24-06-2020 08:25AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

He must have been smoking the mad stuff before his interview last night.

Shefwedfan · 24-06-2020 08:29AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

He must have been smoking the mad stuff before his interview last night.

Leo loves the hash, did you not know?

blanch152 · 24-06-2020 08:31AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Leo loves the hash, did you not know?

Yes, I remember that was the source of some temporary outrage on here for a few minutes.

Shefwedfan · 24-06-2020 08:32AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Yes, I remember that was the source of some temporary outrage on here for a few minutes.

One day Leo farted and it was a source of some outrage on here

:p:p:p

Some people have little else to do

dundalkfc10 · 24-06-2020 08:41AM

Ah yeh lets make a joke about his shambolic interview last night, that will make people forgot

I wanted to talk to Mary to tell her why I wouldn't talk to her but she wont reply.

Spin Fein.

Its appropriate to say a Mean Girls Quote in a speech once its in context (1700 people dying, excellent time for a Mean Girls Quote)

He as outdone himself

blanch152 · 24-06-2020 08:42AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

One day Leo farted and it was a source of some outrage on here :p:p:p

Some people have little else to do

Wonder how long it will take for the Mean Girls outrage to die down.

We will probably have a meme about it regularly popping up about once a month to remind us.

Leo quotes from Mean Girls: cue pages of outrage
Mary-Lou praises a convicted terrorist and evil man: nothing to see here

dundalkfc10 · 24-06-2020 08:47AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Wonder how long it will take for the Mean Girls outrage to die down.

We will probably have a meme about it regularly popping up about once a month to remind us.

Leo quotes from Mean Girls: cue pages of outrage
Mary-Lou praises a convicted terrorist and evil man: nothing to see here

Bring SF into everything, that worked well pre-election

Eric Cartman · 24-06-2020 08:54AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Wonder how long it will take for the Mean Girls outrage to die down.

We will probably have a meme about it regularly popping up about once a month to remind us.

Leo quotes from Mean Girls: cue pages of outrage
Mary-Lou praises a convicted terrorist and evil man: nothing to see here

it is possible to acknowledge that both are wrong...

FF/FG/Green Next Government

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