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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • #7112
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    blade1 wrote: »
    Game,set and match you could say.

    That's one hell of a serve. A real top spin of an effort.


  • #7113
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,275 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Given that he dismissed the virus as being nothing to worry about, is anti restrictions, organised a tennis tournament withstands full of people and then went night clubbing without taking any health precautions it`s no great surprise that he has contracted it. For his sake let`s hope it`s just a mild case.

    It’ll be no more than a sniffle to him if even that.


  • #7114
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Please tell me you're taking the pistachio. For the love of Christ the virus should just kill us all.
    As unbelievable as it sounds, no . Sister in law watched her do it.


  • #7115
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    LiquidZeb wrote: »
    Exactly what happened in March will probably never come to pass again barring utter catastrophe. There may be brief spikes as seen in some parts of Germany but it'll never be as all out balls to the wall as it was throughout April.

    And you know this for a fact do you? Based on what exactly?


  • #7116
    Cw85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Cw85


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    It's not always possible to maintain a distance. It's very clear on that. This is where wearing a mask helps. But you would rather infect others. Pure selfish behaviour on your part.

    Rather infect others? What a stupid comment. I don't have the virus, and if I got it I would isolate for 14 days as required and therefore not infect anyone.


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  • #7117
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    normanoffside wrote: »
    It’ll be no more than a sniffle to him if even that.

    Really? We`ll see. For his sake I hope you`re right.


  • #7118
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Rather infect others? What a stupid comment. I don't have the virus, and if I got it I would isolate for 14 days as required and therefore not infect anyone.

    Hmmmm. You working off the WHO talking points from March?

    You could have the virus, not be sick and still shed it.

    For someone that seems to have all the answers, you'd imagine you'd know that.


  • #7119
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    And you know this for a fact do you? Based on what exactly?

    Based on the fact we know everything we do now about the virus and how to manage it. Based on the fact NPHET have said themselves any lockdown will be regional rather than nationwide like in April. Based on the fact that the country can't afford the one lockdown never mind a second one. That's what it's based on. What are your great posts based on ? Still calling for cut throat razors to be taken to people Corkboy?


  • #7120
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,275 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Really? We`ll see. For his sake I hope you`re right.

    We’ll see will we?
    Will you be getting the inside info on how bad a dose he gets?


  • #7121
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Rather infect others? What a stupid comment. I don't have the virus, and if I got it I would isolate for 14 days as required and therefore not infect anyone.

    How do you know when to isolate? When you have symptoms. The thing about this is people are infectious before showing symptoms. So you have already spread the virus to someone else before you show symptoms. All good hand washing and distance, but not always possible to maintain distance.

    So yes, if someone doesn't wear a face mask knowing all this, they are very selfish and I have no problem saying it.


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  • #7122
    Jackman25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭Jackman25


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I’ve been on this thread from the beginning and I think I’ve had enough now, the fear mongering is utterly ridiculous and is driving the thread into the dirt. Some people would want to take a good look at themselves.

    On the bright side, at least when the pubs open, a lot of the really annoying people won't be in them.


  • #7123
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    normanoffside wrote: »
    We’ll see will we?
    Will you be getting the inside info on how bad a dose he gets?

    He's probably jabbing a Djokovic shaped voodoo doll as we speak.


  • #7124
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    normanoffside wrote: »
    It’ll be no more than a sniffle to him if even that.

    What about his wife or anyone else they may have infected?

    Globabl Pandemic 101, they are not personal.
    Fellow player Nick Kyrgios called the decision to host the Tour "boneheaded,"

    Should have listened to Nick.


  • #7125
    LiquidZeb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭LiquidZeb


    Boggles wrote: »
    What about his wife or anyone else they may have infected?

    Globabl Pandemic 101, they are not personal.



    Should have listened to Nick.

    Jesus Nick Kyrgios being the sensible person in any situation. 2020 is a ****ing trip.


  • #7126
    Cw85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Cw85


    Boggles wrote: »
    Hmmmm. You working off the WHO talking points from March?

    You could have the virus, not be sick and still shed it.

    For someone that seems to have all the answers, you'd imagine you'd know that.

    I'll take my one in a million chance


  • #7127
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Rather infect others? What a stupid comment. I don't have the virus, and if I got it I would isolate for 14 days as required and therefore not infect anyone.

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/

    “The majority of transmission that we know about is that people who have symptoms transmit the virus to other people through infectious droplets,” Van Kerkhove said. “But there are a subset of people who don’t develop symptoms, and to truly understand how many people don’t have symptoms, we don’t actually have that answer yet.”

    .......

    She added: “We are constantly looking at this data and we’re trying to get more information from countries to truly answer this question.”

    To some, it came across as if the WHO was suggesting that people without symptoms weren’t driving spread. Some studies, however, have estimated that people without symptoms (whether truly asymptomatic or presymptomatic) could be responsible for up to half of the spread, which is why the virus has been so difficult to contain. Isolating people who are sick, for example, does not prevent the possibility they already passed the virus on to others. Some modeling studies have assumed quite widespread asymptomatic transmission.

    How will you know you have it if you are one of the many people who do not get any symptoms?


  • #7128
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    normanoffside wrote: »
    We’ll see will we?
    Will you be getting the inside info on how bad a dose he gets?

    Yeah we will. If he does get a serious case of it you can be sure it will get plenty of media coverage.


  • #7129
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Rather infect others? What a stupid comment. I don't have the virus, and if I got it I would isolate for 14 days as required and therefore not infect anyone.

    That is genius. Why has it taken this long for someone to figure out how to beat this disease! Just don't infect someone else if you have it. Dangerous posting this in a public forum before the nobel committee acknowledge it. Hope no one tries to steal it from you.


  • #7130
    Flickerfusion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Flickerfusion


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    It's not always possible to maintain a distance. It's very clear on that. This is where wearing a mask helps. But you would rather infect others. Pure selfish behaviour on your part.

    Well, looking around it would seem about 98 to 99% of the Irish population is in the 'pure selfish' category.

    We are definitely an outlier on this in Europe. Many countries that have had better results than we have are taking a precautionary approach and using masks.

    I just don't get the caviller attitude here and people really are not socially distancing anything like the way it's supposed to work in theory, so I think we should probably all stop kidding ourselves about how well behaved we are on this. The 2m thing is impractical so, we should be wearing masks in a lot of scenarios and we just aren't.

    At the very least, masks should be required and unambiguously so so on all public transport and similar environments until we have absolute clarity that it's safe to go without them.

    I just cannot understand what the big deal is about them. Even in the US there seems to be more people willing to use them than here and they're hardly being world leaders in COVID-19 prevention.

    I know I was absolutely horrified to hear that my aunt, who has a weak immune system and is undergoing cancer treatment was being met by nurses as late as April who were not wearing masks and also has been picked up by volunteer drivers who were not wearing masks. That's frankly just unacceptably lax and that was peak COVID here!


  • #7131
    Cw85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Cw85


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    That is genius. Why has it taken this long for someone to figure out how to beat this disease! Just don't infect someone else if you have it. Dangerous posting this in a public forum before the nobel committee acknowledge it. Hope no one tries to steal it from you.

    I was pointing out the obvious to another user if you read the previous comments.

    I don't know anyone personally who had the virus and nobody I know has heard of anyone they know getting it either. It is simply not very contactable in an outdoor setting where I am 100% of the time during the day


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  • #7132
    Cw85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Cw85


    Flickerfusion wrote: »
    Well, looking around it would seem about 98 to 99% of the Irish population is in the 'pure selfish' category.

    We are definitely an outlier on this in Europe. Many countries that have had better results than we have are taking a precautionary approach and using masks.

    I just don't get the caviller attitude here and people really are not socially distancing anything like the way it's supposed to work in theory, so I think we should probably all stop kidding ourselves about how well behaved we are on this.

    At the very least, masks should be required and unambiguously so so on all public transport and similar environments until we have absolute clarity that it's safe to go without them.

    I just cannot understand what the big deal is about them. Even in the US there seems to be more people willing to use them than here and they're hardly being world leaders in COVID-19 prevention.

    Very low rate of getting here, only 6 odd cases a day in a country with a population of 5m plus. No reason for everyone to go around wearing masks


  • #7133
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Cw85 wrote: »
    I was pointing out the obvious to another user if you read the previous comments.

    I don't know anyone personally who had the virus and nobody I know has heard of anyone they know getting it either. It is simply not very contactable in an outdoor setting where I am 100% of the time during the day

    I highlighted your problem there for you.


  • #7134
    Flickerfusion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Flickerfusion


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Very low rate of getting here, only 6 odd cases a day in a country with a population of 5m plus. No reason for everyone to go around wearing masks

    I still do not get why my relative, who was being treated off-site due to having such a high risk due to low immunity that she couldn't be brought to a major hospital, was being met by nursing staff who weren't wearing masks and also voluntary drivers who weren't wearing masks while this pandemic was at its peak in April.

    The masks only appeared on staff in May and that was in a major Dublin hospital.

    She didn't get anything, but I'm still less than impressed at how it was handled.


  • #7135
    Cw85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Cw85


    Boggles wrote: »
    I highlighted your problem there for you.

    Clever. Well if I protect myself by keeping social distancing etc then I am protecting others


  • #7136
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Flickerfusion wrote: »
    Well, looking around it would seem about 98 to 99% of the Irish population is in the 'pure selfish' category.

    We are definitely an outlier on this in Europe. Many countries that have had better results than we have are taking a precautionary approach and using masks.

    I just don't get the caviller attitude here and people really are not socially distancing anything like the way it's supposed to work in theory, so I think we should probably all stop kidding ourselves about how well behaved we are on this.

    At the very least, masks should be required and unambiguously so so on all public transport and similar environments until we have absolute clarity that it's safe to go without them.

    I just cannot understand what the big deal is about them. Even in the US there seems to be more people willing to use them than here and they're hardly being world leaders in COVID-19 prevention.

    Even with such low numbers, we have a chance to suppress this. But I don't know what's the point when flights are going to return and all passengers have to do is fill in a form about where they're staying for two weeks.

    Someone over in the work and jobs side on boards and their colleague going on holidays but can't afford two week isolation afterwards and plan on going back to work in a care home!

    There's a real couldn't give two fcuks attitude in this country.


  • #7137
    Cw85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Cw85


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Even with such low numbers, we have a chance to suppress this. But I don't know what's the point when flights are going to return and all passengers have to do is fill in a form about where they're staying for two weeks.

    Someone over in the work and jobs side on boards and their colleague going on holidays but can't afford two week isolation afterwards and plan on going back to work in a care home!

    There's a real couldn't give two fcuks attitude in this country.

    Get over it, the virus is basically gone here, slim to none chance of getting it in a community setting


  • #7138
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    True, but you wanted to open all up and 'get back to normal'. The 2 metres is still in play.

    As long as its back to normal for him, others not so much


  • #7139
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Clever. Well if I protect myself by keeping social distancing etc then I am protecting others

    Good for you.

    But you were calling for everything to open back up as normal, not everyone like you spends 100% of the day outside.

    Basically my point is the vast majority of the world is not you.


  • #7140
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    Things are certainly getting heated.

    Think I'll tune out for a while and check in later to view the carnage:)


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  • #7141
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Clever. Well if I protect myself by keeping social distancing etc then I am protecting others

    That's hardly getting back to the normal you advocated though.


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