Why doesn't Simon Coveney have a Cork accent ?

Damian F · 23-06-2020 11:35AM #1

He must be the only Cork man I've ever come across that doesn't sound like he's from Cork

suicide_circus · 23-06-2020 11:43AM

He went to a prestigious school in the pale

Truthvader · 23-06-2020 11:47AM

He spent his youth on a sailing holiday on his fathers yacht that we all paid for - for charity

Unbelievable

paw patrol · 23-06-2020 12:00PM

Coveney attended Bilderberg as Peter Sutherland's gopher so he is probably a lizard or lizard/human hybrid

For Forks Sake · 23-06-2020 12:01PM

Damian F wrote: »

He must be the only Cork man I've ever come across that doesn't sound like he's from Cork

There's a bit of a twang there, but as said he went to school in Kildare.
Also, I believe he has a speech impediment that he has to focus on as well.

https://www.hotpress.com/culture/simon-coveney-interview-14356299

Does it recur in moments of stress?
It’s not normally stress-related for me. It's a really weird condition. No one has a solution to it. Everything has been tried from breathing programmes to hypnosis to drugs. I think individuals have to find a way through. You’ll rarely see me read a speech, because I like to choose my words as I speak. People who stammer know the words and the syllables that they will have difficulty with, and so they tend to avoid them. Often, for example, people stutter on words that begin with C. So instead of talking about cows in the field, I might talk about the Friesians in the field (laughs). My stammer started to get a lot better when I was 15 or 16. Who'd have thought that a spotty teenager, as I was, with a stammer, would end up as a government Minister who’s literally giving three or four speeches every day? And speaking on television debates without having any difficulty with my speech, most of the time. Hopefully the two or three per cent of people in
the country that do have a stammer, particularly younger ones, will get some encouragement from that.

Kermit.de.frog · 23-06-2020 12:02PM

paw patrol wrote: »

Coveney attended Bilderberg as Peter Sutherland's gopher so he is probably a lizard or lizard/human hybrid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5K_bxxNQc

Seamai · 23-06-2020 12:04PM

The Coveney's don't breathe the same air as most of us Corkonians.

StackSteevens · 23-06-2020 12:07PM

Truthvader wrote: »

He spent his youth on a sailing holiday on his fathers yacht that we all paid for - for charity

Unbelievable

I didn't pay a single cent for the late Hugh Coveney's yacht.

Neither did anyone else I know.

daithi7 · 23-06-2020 12:17PM

Oh ffs, pressfortruth , press-for-harassment more like. Coveney handled himself with a lot of class there, as usual , in fairness to him.

JohnnyFlash · 23-06-2020 12:44PM

The dude had a pretty bad speech impediment as a kid and is quite deliberate in his way and manner of speaking. He’s also from a well-to-do Cork ‘merchant prince’ family. Neither fact should negate him from being a public representative, and a very effective one at that.

Poor_old_gill · 23-06-2020 12:59PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5K_bxxNQc

That video is ludicrous - pure harassment.

Reminds me of the episode of the Simpsons when Homer is being accused of sexual harassment and he goes on air to clear his name - the interview is doctored & presented in such a way to make it all seem sinister.

All it's missing is a pair of cartoon horns on the 2 lads while they are walking around

Truthvader · 23-06-2020 01:09PM

StackSteevens wrote: »

I didn't pay a single cent for the late Hugh Coveney's yacht.

Neither did anyone else I know.

Er..... you kinda did but just didn't know

In March 1998, it became publicly known that the Moriarty Tribunal had questioned Coveney about whether he had a secret offshore account with Ansbacher Bank, a bank which had become notorious for facilitating tax-evasion. . His son, Simon Coveney, insisted that his father had never held an Ansbacher account.[3] It later emerged that Hugh Coveney had $175,000 on deposit in the secret Cayman Island-based bank. The account was closed in 1979.[4]

walshb · 23-06-2020 01:12PM

Because he's just very lucky?

walshb · 23-06-2020 01:13PM

Seamai wrote: »

The Coveney's don't breath the same air as most of us Corkonians.

They don't spell like you either!:P

Risingshadoo · 23-06-2020 01:16PM

Is coveney a foreign surname

Loafing Oaf · 23-06-2020 01:27PM

Damian F wrote: »

He must be the only Cork man I've ever come across that doesn't sound like he's from Cork

What about

JohnnyFlash · 23-06-2020 01:35PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

What about

Ah, he does have a twinge. I know plenty of Cork people who don’t have the ludicrous Cork accent.

saabsaab · 23-06-2020 02:11PM

An educated Cork accent is kind of neutral like. Almost not an accent at all.

touts · 23-06-2020 02:20PM

Attack his policies. Fair enough
Attack the fact that his only experience before inheriting his family seat was working for a "sailing charity" (whatever that is). Fair enough
Attack his parties handling of the homelessness and health crisis. Fair enough

But attack the way he speaks. I'm sorry but that is just a gutter tactic. I'd love to hear the OPs accent. I'll bet its a howl. Most people who criticise the way others speak generally have an accent that does them no favours.

jimgoose · 23-06-2020 02:21PM

saabsaab wrote: »

An educated Cork accent is kind of neutral like. Almost not an accent at all.

Quite so. Niall Toibín went to de North Mon biy, but his own (non-performing) accent was quite upmarket.

chite · 23-06-2020 02:22PM

Risingshadoo wrote: »

Is coveney a foreign surname

Why's that relevant? Google tells you that...well you can google it for yourself.

When you see a surname that doesn't look 'irish', it could easily be an irish name that got anglicised. E.g. Clifford, while an english surname, people with the surname (particularly those from Munster) are most likely those descended from those with the name Ó Clumháin/ Ní Chlumháin.

Anyway the origin of one's surname doesn't matter so *shrug*

gerrybbadd · 23-06-2020 02:23PM

Risingshadoo wrote: »

Is coveney a foreign surname

No-veney

jimgoose · 23-06-2020 02:26PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

He went to a prestigious school in the pale

Strictly speaking, Clongowes Wood College is in the Earldom of Kildare. Coveney was suspended and eventually even expelled for boozing and partying. Fair focks! :cool:

StackSteevens · 23-06-2020 02:54PM

Truthvader wrote: »

Er..... you kinda did but just didn't know

In March 1998, it became publicly known that the Moriarty Tribunal had questioned Coveney about whether he had a secret offshore account with Ansbacher Bank, a bank which had become notorious for facilitating tax-evasion. . His son, Simon Coveney, insisted that his father had never held an Ansbacher account.[3] It later emerged that Hugh Coveney had $175,000 on deposit in the secret Cayman Island-based bank. The account was closed in 1979.[4]

By what convoluted attempt at smearing a dead man can you claim that the fact that Hugh Coveney had an Ansbacher Account means that I helped to pay for his yacht?

Incidentally, there is and was absolutely nothing illegal in having an offshore account - with any bank anywhere in the world - so long as Revenue is informed of its existence and that tax is paid on any interest received.

Tokyo · 23-06-2020 03:16PM

Mod: Moved to AH - I think it will be more fitting there. Local charter now applies.

ZeroThreat · 23-06-2020 03:22PM

saabsaab wrote: »

An educated Cork accent is kind of neutral like. Almost not an accent at all.

Which is why a Corkonian with a neutral accent is as rare as hen's teeth...

Beanntraigheach · 23-06-2020 03:27PM

Risingshadoo wrote: »

Is coveney a foreign surname

From Irish Mac Coibheanaigh.

TheBoyConor · 23-06-2020 03:32PM

Beanntraigheach wrote: »

From Irish Mac Coibheanaigh.

Thank goodness! What a relief. Imagine if the people of Cork had unknowingly voted for a protestant with a quare surname.

jimgoose · 23-06-2020 03:41PM

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Thank goodness! What a relief. Imagine if the people of Cork had unknowingly voted for a protestant with a quare surname.

Was Flor Wycherley Protestant, or did he just have the quare surname? :pac:

TheBoyConor · 23-06-2020 04:23PM

Could well be prod with that name. West Cork is full of them. You can nearly smell it off of some of them. There is a saying back in west cork, even the pigs are protestant.

jimgoose · 23-06-2020 04:24PM

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Could well be prod with that name. West Cork is full of them. You can nearly smell it off of some of them. There is a saying back in west cork, even the pigs are protestant.

They say that mainly about Bandon in particular. Odd, I've never noticed a smell from Woman.

Why doesn't Simon Coveney have a Cork accent ?

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