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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • #5972
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,443 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Believe that was the plan already before today.

    Yup just waiting for it to be in updated roadmap doc but yeah flagged alright


  • #5973
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    That’s kinda my point. How exactly do you do that on a fvcking plane?

    Nothing changed on planes since March either?


  • #5974
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Nothing changed on planes since March either?

    Apart from two things.

    1) the number of passengers
    2) the volume of flights

    Let’s get flying again though. Who knows you could be right.


  • #5975
    Renjit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    I used to fly every other week to UK until mid of February. I had trip to Spain too. I remember asking half day off at customer office. Stayed in hotel room, feeling feverish. Not sure if it was covid-19. But I still have the cough from that time.

    I would not like to do business travels any time soon.


  • #5976
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Apart from two things.

    1) the number of passengers
    2) the volume of flights

    Let’s get flying again though. Who knows you could be right.

    Masks are mandatory on all airlines that I'm aware of plus better filtration systems have been installed. There's another two.


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  • #5977
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,811 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1273997897630171138


  • #5978
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/hbz8v0/scientists_in_italy_have_found_traces_of_the_new/

    Looking at a worldwide perspective on the Italy sewage news today. It seems like not just Irish people think they had COVID. Some stories on that Reddit thread of people returning from cruises in December/January and getting sick.

    I am gonna water down the "convinced I had it December gang" a little, every year there will be people will have their worse dose of the flu in their life we are just hearing about it a lot more this year. It is very plausible it was here in December but hardly as prevalent as people are suggesting. Remember even, in the worse of this with the narrowest case definition the positive test rate was just 20%, granted a much of the 80% was following up close contacts.


  • #5979
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Renjit wrote: »
    I used to fly every other week to UK until mid of February. I had trip to Spain too. I remember asking half day off at customer office. Stayed in hotel room, feeling feverish. Not sure if it was covid-19. But I still have the cough from that time.

    I would not like to do business travels any time soon.

    Friends dad was in U.K. early feb and came back with a cold he couldn’t shift. Continued on as normal. Went to docs, assumed bad virus. Even start of March, couldn’t get a test. Eventually did but before he got results he was hospitalised, tested positive on admission, mid March. He’s fine now but it was certainly here and in U.K. earlier than confirmed cases.


  • #5980
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Gael23 wrote: »
    If you want to stay at home and wash yourself with bleach to protect you then work ahead.

    The rest of us want to get on with our lives

    Haha I was joking


  • #5981
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Boggles wrote: »
    I very much doubt it.

    The reality is it probably takes more time to swirl and reach a "critical mass" than we thought.

    Deaths and infection rates were overlooked because no one was keeping eye on it.

    Either way it isn't good news.

    But they weren't overlooked. It is why we publish regular data on yearly/monthly mortality rate, so these things are not overlooked or ignored. COVID simply killed the vast majority of those who have died within the months of March and April in Europe, excess mortality across Europe was at below normal levels before the outbreak officially happened in March, there is no doubt about this.

    I know it is perplexing, as the waste water from December showed COVID in the sewage in Italy and FRance showed that it definitely was within the community as far back as 2019, it is so odd, but there is absolutely no denying that COVID only began killing large numbers from March onward, why that is I dont know.


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  • #5982
    Icantthinkof1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Icantthinkof1


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Friends dad was in U.K. early feb and came back with a cold he couldn’t shift. Continued on as normal. Went to docs, assumed bad virus. Even start of March, couldn’t get a test. Eventually did but before he got results he was hospitalised, tested positive on admission, mid March. He’s fine now but it was certainly here and in U.K. earlier than confirmed cases.

    Could someone test positive for the virus 4-6 weeks after contracting it?


  • #5983
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    lbj666 wrote: »
    I am gonna water down the "convinced I had it December gang" a little, every year there will be people will have their worse dose of the flu in their life we are just hearing about it a lot more this year. It is very plausible it was here in December but hardly as prevalent as people are suggesting. Remember even, in the worse of this with the narrowest case definition the positive test rate was just 20%, granted a much of the 80% was following up close contacts.
    If the virus was in Italy and France in December, it was here too. No way it wasn't when there's open travel. If people had it, nobody would've even been tested, because nobody knew it existed.


  • #5984
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Icantthinkof1 wrote: »
    Could someone test positive for the virus 4-6 weeks after contracting it?

    Yes, dead fragments of the virus can apparently cause a positive result


  • #5985
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Can't believe we've to wait another full week. It should be permissible to go now and for those that aren't ready just wait. George Lee is such a ghoul, does anyone actually like him?


  • #5986
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    If the virus was in Italy and France in December, it was here too. No way it wasn't when there's open travel. If people had it, nobody would've even been tested, because nobody knew it existed.

    It's odd that there's more of a push for a vaccine instead of trying to establish whether it did actually spread around the community by doing antibody testing and widespread testing in general. It is a fact that it is not known how much the virus has spread in Ireland as hardly anyone has been tested.


  • #5987
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Icantthinkof1 wrote:
    Could someone test positive for the virus 4-6 weeks after contracting it?
    Yes. We had a patient in our hospital kept testing positive for over 2 months.


  • #5988
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    It's odd that there's more of a push for a vaccine instead of trying to establish whether it did actually spread around the community by doing antibody testing and widespread testing in general. It is a fact that it is not known how much the virus has spread in Ireland as hardly anyone has been tested.
    The thing is that the antibody tests have something like 50% accuracy. They're awful. It's ongoing in Sligo and Dublin right now so we'll see, I guess.


  • #5989
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,225 ✭✭✭jackboy


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The thing is that the antibody tests have something like 50% accuracy. They're awful. It's ongoing in Sligo and Dublin right now so we'll see, I guess.

    What about the new Roche antibody test that is 100% accurate?


  • #5990
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭maebee


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    If the virus was in Italy and France in December, it was here too. No way it wasn't when there's open travel. If people had it, nobody would've even been tested, because nobody knew it existed.

    I was chatting to a neighbour today and he said to me "Remember when everybody in our estate (probably means a LOT of people)" had a really bad flu over Christmas and well into the New Year?" He said he and his wife didn't get whatever it was as they always get the flu jab. OH and I didn't get the dose either and we've been getting the flu jab for the past 10 years.


  • #5991
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,363 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    maebee wrote: »
    I was chatting to a neighbour today and he said to me "Remember when everybody in our estate (probably means a LOT of people)" had a really bad flu over Christmas and well into the New Year?" He said he and his wife didn't get whatever it was as they always get the flu jab. OH and I didn't get the dose either and we've been getting the flu jab for the past 10 years.

    Myself and my husband and daughter got the flu jab . Daughter and I and her husband were really ill over Christmas and I ended up on steroids for a dreadful chest . We were washed out for weeks after it . My husband didn’t get sick at all


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  • #5992
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    maebee wrote: »
    I was chatting to a neighbour today and he said to me "Remember when everybody in our estate (probably means a LOT of people)" had a really bad flu over Christmas and well into the New Year?" He said he and his wife didn't get whatever it was as they always get the flu jab. OH and I didn't get the dose either and we've been getting the flu jab for the past 10 years.
    I got the flu jab and was incredibly sick in January. Haven't been sick since.


  • #5993
    Flowergirl201
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Flowergirl201


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    Yes. We had a patient in our hospital kept testing positive for over 2 months.

    Was that patient contagious for those full 2 months?


  • #5994
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Social distancing, hand hygiene, cough etiquette, tract and trace. Greater knowledge about the virus promising treatments. Yeah exactly the same as March.

    Social distancing has pretty much disappeared at this stage.
    Hand hygiene, yep fair enough better than March.
    Cough etiquette, if we were all wearing masks to protect each other this wouldn’t be an issue.
    Tract and trace won’t work in the case of packed planes.
    We have no treatments or a vaccine for the masses at the moment.
    Your right Pretty much the same as March.


  • #5995
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Social distancing has pretty much disappeared at this stage.
    Hand hygiene, yep fair enough better than March.
    Cough etiquette, if we were all wearing masks to protect each other this wouldn’t be an issue.
    Tract and trace won’t work in the case of packed planes.
    We have no treatments or a vaccine for the masses at the moment.
    Your right Pretty much the same as March.
    I don't know where you live but where I am 99% of people are social distancing. And I live in a city.


  • #5996
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,588 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Social distancing has pretty much disappeared at this stage.
    Hand hygiene, yep fair enough better than March.
    Cough etiquette, if we were all wearing masks to protect each other this wouldn’t be an issue.
    Tract and trace won’t work in the case of packed planes.
    We have no treatments or a vaccine for the masses at the moment.
    Your right Pretty much the same as March.

    To be fair, Social distancing is still being practiced by the majority.


  • #5997
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Flowergirl201 wrote: »
    Was that patient contagious for those full 2 months?

    They were hospitalised the entire time and spent time in ICU so i would say yes.


  • #5998
    snowstorm445
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭snowstorm445


    Seamai wrote: »
    He said "Stop trying to make FETCH happen"

    "You're within 2 metres so YOU CAN'T SIT WITH US" :mad:


  • #5999
    alwald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭alwald


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I don't know where you live but where I am 99% of people are social distancing. And I live in a city.

    I am not sure where you live either, but I live in Dublin, and I can tell you that social distancing is no longer in place in the shopping center/shops this week.


  • #6000
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The thing is that the antibody tests have something like 50% accuracy. They're awful. It's ongoing in Sligo and Dublin right now so we'll see, I guess.
    Where did you see 50%?

    They wouldnt be used if performance was that poor.


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  • #6001
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Social distancing has pretty much disappeared at this stage.
    Hand hygiene, yep fair enough better than March.
    Cough etiquette, if we were all wearing masks to protect each other this wouldn’t be an issue.
    Tract and trace won’t work in the case of packed planes.
    We have no treatments or a vaccine for the masses at the moment.
    Your right Pretty much the same as March.
    It's 'you're', plus I never said we are no different than where were in March. Try not to misrepresent what is said, pathetic posting behaviour tbh.
    I see people practicing SD every single day including my workplace.


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