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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • #5762
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Does anyone remember that ad that was on tv/rte years ago. It was about littering. There was a very strong message put across in that ad. It said something like, if you litter - others will see you like trash. Something like that. It was a very good ad.


    I would love to see ads on tv/rte showing proper coughing and sneezing etiquette.

    I witnessed someone cough into their hands the other day. It was great that they at least tried to contain the cough but it was useless without washing hands ASAP because people go on an touch door hands and other things. I know chances of the person having the virus is probably low but still. I think an ad on TV would be beneficial. Especially now. We will be coming into the autumn soon and children will be going back to school and usually going back to school encourages more colds. We will ha e darker evenings come August time too and people might be more inclined to spend more time indoors for the autumn and especially the winter. I don't want to see an increase in covid19 in the winter months. People practicing hygiene properly will go a long way.


  • #5763
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    We don't even have public toilets but you expect everyone to wash their hands every time they cough?

    Good hygiene etiquette is fine but there is a point you reach where you are becoming ridiculous


  • #5764
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    fritzelly wrote: »
    We don't even have public toilets but you expect everyone to wash their hands every time they cough?

    Good hygiene etiquette is fine but there is a point you reach where you are becoming ridiculous

    Carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer with you to kill germs.
    That’s not ridiculous.


  • #5765
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Carry a small bottle of hand sanitizer with you to kill germs.
    That’s not ridiculous.

    It is - this will blow over and become a normal seasonal virus at worst similar to flu

    Living with bugs is part of the cycle of life - the human body is designed for it from the second you are born you get covered in them (unless cesarean which is thought linked to other immunity issues)
    Living in fear of touching anything because it may have a bug on it is not living but surviving each day - it's not a way to live.


  • #5766
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    fritzelly wrote: »
    It is - this will blow over and become a normal seasonal virus at worst similar to flu

    Living with bugs is part of the cycle of life - the human body is designed for it from the second you are born you get covered in them (unless cesarean which is thought linked to other immunity issues)
    Living in fear of touching anything because it may have a bug on it is not living but surviving each day - it's not a way to live.

    .............ah I just won’t.
    Goodnight.


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  • #5767
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Does anyone remember that ad that was on tv/rte years ago. It was about littering. There was a very strong message put across in that ad. It said something like, if you litter - others will see you like trash. Something like that. It was a very good ad.


    I would love to see ads on tv/rte showing proper coughing and sneezing etiquette.

    I witnessed someone cough into their hands the other day. It was great that they at least tried to contain the cough but it was useless without washing hands ASAP because people go on an touch door hands and other things. I know chances of the person having the virus is probably low but still. I think an ad on TV would be beneficial. Especially now. We will be coming into the autumn soon and children will be going back to school and usually going back to school encourages more colds. We will ha e darker evenings come August time too and people might be more inclined to spend more time indoors for the autumn and especially the winter. I don't want to see an increase in covid19 in the winter months. People practicing hygiene properly will go a long way.
    Jeebus that bit about the littering ad is spot on.

    If they put one about wearing masks that would be so effective. Like, even one just conveying to people that by not wearing one you'll be putting vulnerable people at risk.

    My sister is a teacher with brittle asthma, making her high risk, and she got a policy to read from her school. It says "wearing masks is discouraged unless the wearer has a doctor's note as masks cause stress and anxiety for children". Any other health issues and medical requirements being singled out like that as damaging children and the school would be in a very precarious legal position in the event of at-risk staff and students getting sick.

    The whole staff should be wearing masks, as should staff in any working environments where social distancing is not possible and people are together for long periods. This allows employees to practice their responsibility protect those around them as well as the right to be protected themselves. It's gone beyond a joke that this still needs to be explained.


  • #5768
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    fritzelly wrote: »
    It is - this will blow over and become a normal seasonal virus at worst similar to flu

    Living with bugs is part of the cycle of life - the human body is designed for it from the second you are born you get covered in them (unless cesarean which is thought linked to other immunity issues)
    Living in fear of touching anything because it may have a bug on it is not living but surviving each day - it's not a way to live.

    I agree with every single word you've written.

    You should catch as many bugs as you can but there are some bugs you only catch once.


  • #5769
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    I want that one....... ->
    She is clearly smashing it.

    https://twitter.com/Chris_Stark/status/1273749500608290817?s=20


  • #5770
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,093 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    So has America even reached its peak ? Not looking good....


  • #5771
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,992 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    EltonJohn69 wrote: »
    So has America even reached its peak ? Not looking good....

    Plateauing out at a high daily level.

    See every peak, and then it comes down to a level that's stable. That gap. The height of the gap matters a lot.


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  • #5772
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    When pubs reopen on 20th of July, will there also be a time limit like there is now from 29th June on restaurants and bars that serve food?


  • #5773
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,045 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Does anyone remember that ad that was on tv/rte years ago. It was about littering. There was a very strong message put across in that ad. It said something like, if you litter - others will see you like trash. Something like that. It was a very good ad.


    I would love to see ads on tv/rte showing proper coughing and sneezing etiquette.

    I witnessed someone cough into their hands the other day. It was great that they at least tried to contain the cough but it was useless without washing hands ASAP because people go on an touch door hands and other things. I know chances of the person having the virus is probably low but still. I think an ad on TV would be beneficial. Especially now. We will be coming into the autumn soon and children will be going back to school and usually going back to school encourages more colds. We will ha e darker evenings come August time too and people might be more inclined to spend more time indoors for the autumn and especially the winter. I don't want to see an increase in covid19 in the winter months. People practicing hygiene properly will go a long way.

    If you have a cold then you cannot be going to school or work at the present time.


  • #5774
    Flickerfusion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Flickerfusion


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Jeebus that bit about the littering ad is spot on.

    If they put one about wearing masks that would be so effective. Like, even one just conveying to people that by not wearing one you'll be putting vulnerable people at risk.

    My sister is a teacher with brittle asthma, making her high risk, and she got a policy to read from her school. It says "wearing masks is discouraged unless the wearer has a doctor's note as masks cause stress and anxiety for children". Any other health issues and medical requirements being singled out like that as damaging children and the school would be in a very precarious legal position in the event of at-risk staff and students getting sick.

    The whole staff should be wearing masks, as should staff in any working environments where social distancing is not possible and people are together for long periods. This allows employees to practice their responsibility protect those around them as well as the right to be protected themselves. It's gone beyond a joke that this still needs to be explained.

    Absolutely idiotic position for the school to take.

    They aren’t a competent medical authority. The government and public health advice is to wear masks in indoor places where social distancing isn’t possible are they going to flout that?

    They are exposing themselves to a potential legal minefield and Ireland is extremely litigious. I wouldn’t like to be defending that position if someone subsequently gets COVID 19 and I had instructed people to go against public health advice and best practice for health and safety!


  • #5775
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Flickerfusion wrote: »
    Absolutely idiotic position for the school to take.

    They aren’t a competent medical authority. The government and public health advice is to wear masks in indoor places where social distancing isn’t possible are they going to flout that?

    They are exposing themselves to a potential legal minefield and Ireland is extremely litigious. I wouldn’t like to be defending that position if someone subsequently gets COVID 19 and I had instructed people to go against public health advice and best practice for health and safety!

    A teacher can’t teach in a mask all day. Just not practical in any way whatsoever


  • #5776
    ronano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,179 ✭✭✭ronano


    My mother was watching Luke o' Neill yesterday, she mentioned that he said that covid can only last an hour on cotton masks. I'm highly skeptical and can't find any information to support the idea. Anyone come across it? I'll treat it as wrong until I can find otherwise plus it won't change mask etiquette for me


  • #5777
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Does anyone remember that ad that was on tv/rte years ago. It was about littering. There was a very strong message put across in that ad. It said something like, if you litter - others will see you like trash. Something like that. It was a very good ad.


    I would love to see ads on tv/rte showing proper coughing and sneezing etiquette.

    I witnessed someone cough into their hands the other day. It was great that they at least tried to contain the cough but it was useless without washing hands ASAP because people go on an touch door hands and other things. I know chances of the person having the virus is probably low but still. I think an ad on TV would be beneficial. Especially now. We will be coming into the autumn soon and children will be going back to school and usually going back to school encourages more colds. We will ha e darker evenings come August time too and people might be more inclined to spend more time indoors for the autumn and especially the winter. I don't want to see an increase in covid19 in the winter months. People practicing hygiene properly will go a long way.
    They have done it already



  • #5778
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    A teacher can’t teach in a mask all day. Just not practical in any way whatsoever

    I would have thought we all interact with each other using facial expression and lip movements, especially kids. I’d say it would be hard for young kids to learn phonics from a mask wearing teacher.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #5779
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    fritzelly wrote: »
    It is - this will blow over and become a normal seasonal virus at worst similar to flu

    Living with bugs is part of the cycle of life - the human body is designed for it from the second you are born you get covered in them (unless cesarean which is thought linked to other immunity issues)
    Living in fear of touching anything because it may have a bug on it is not living but surviving each day - it's not a way to live.
    :rolleyes:

    Some people never learn. This is far more serious and far more contagious than 'flu.

    I've yet to hear of 'flu causing thrombosis, strokes, permanent organ damage, loss of a limb, require someone to have a double lung transplant... CoViD-19 has resulted in all of these outcomes in otherwise healthy, relatively young people.

    Most people may have 'mild' symptoms but it is far from 'flu. Proper hygiene and precautions not only protects yourself but is also your civic duty to protect others and help prevent large outbreaks which would impact how our whole society functions.


  • #5780
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Jeebus that bit about the littering ad is spot on.

    If they put one about wearing masks that would be so effective. Like, even one just conveying to people that by not wearing one you'll be putting vulnerable people at risk.

    My sister is a teacher with brittle asthma, making her high risk, and she got a policy to read from her school. It says "wearing masks is discouraged unless the wearer has a doctor's note as masks cause stress and anxiety for children". Any other health issues and medical requirements being singled out like that as damaging children and the school would be in a very precarious legal position in the event of at-risk staff and students getting sick.

    The whole staff should be wearing masks, as should staff in any working environments where social distancing is not possible and people are together for long periods. This allows employees to practice their responsibility protect those around them as well as the right to be protected themselves. It's gone beyond a joke that this still needs to be explained.

    Wearing of masks is discouraged unless the wearer has a doctor's note?

    Wtf is this bull? What will the doctor's note say to single out one person wearing a mask? Sure the note will only say, masks are for the sick... in which case, stay at home. But we all know that people are infectious before showing symptoms. Stupid school.


  • #5781
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    I would have thought we all interact with each other using facial expression and lip movements, especially kids. I’d say it would be hard for young kids to learn phonics from a mask wearing teacher.

    Absolutely. I can barely tell what my local barista is saying to me through their mask. Teaching would be impossible


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  • #5782
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    I would have thought we all interact with each other using facial expression and lip movements, especially kids. I’d say it would be hard for young kids to learn phonics from a mask wearing teacher.

    Haven't there been masks made with a clear front because someone recognised the problem of mask use with deaf people. These can also be used in schools.


  • #5783
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Absolutely. I can barely tell what my local barista is saying to me through their mask. Teaching would be impossible

    Do you require people to use clear face masks as well?


  • #5784
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Haven't there been masks made with a clear front because someone recognised the problem of mask use with deaf people. These can also be used in schools.

    That would make a difference I’d say.

    Glad I’m not bringing a Jnr infant into school in September though- months of Being told to staying away from people Then left alone in an inhospitable environment with a PPE clad stranger, psychologists will be creaming it in.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #5785
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    If you have a cold then you cannot be going to school or work at the present time.

    That's right. I forgot about that part of the guidelines where we told not to go to work or school if we have a cold.

    I don't have faith that will be followed though. Especially with young school children and some parents seeing school as a childminding facility for the day. Really when things go back to normal with school and work, it will be business as usual going into work and school with colds.


  • #5786
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    They have done it already


    That was brilliant and so funny. Well done at finding that.


  • #5787
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Haven't there been masks made with a clear front because someone recognised the problem of mask use with deaf people. These can also be used in schools.

    Have there been any of these types of masks made? I`m not aware of any.


  • #5788
    Blanco100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    ronano wrote: »
    My mother was watching Luke o' Neill yesterday, she mentioned that he said that covid can only last an hour on cotton masks. I'm highly skeptical and can't find any information to support the idea. Anyone come across it? I'll treat it as wrong until I can find otherwise plus it won't change mask etiquette for me

    Anyone remember the very early days of covid, just before it was confirmed here. Luke O'Neill was taking the softly softly approach, masks are unnecessary, everything will be grand, nothing to see here etc.....


  • #5789
    Azatadine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,697 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    Anyone remember the very early days of covid, just before it was confirmed here. Luke O'Neill was taking the softly softly approach, masks are unnecessary, everything will be grand, nothing to see here etc.....

    Yes, I do. That guy is a clown and I cannot understand how he gets so much airtime. A populist buffoon.


  • #5790
    Flickerfusion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Flickerfusion


    I sincerely hope we have managed to reduce this to very low levels that will stat that way. Between the mixed messaging and almost zero use of masks and the melting away of people taking it seriously, I’m really worried we are going to see round two in the autumn.

    From a technical point of view what’s changed?

    The virus is still out there in the community and we haven’t become mysteriously immune to it.

    I’m not suggesting lockdown but we do need to realise that we can’t just abandon the hygiene measures just because the lockdown put in a firebreak. We are risking undoing months of slog and sacrifice.

    All I’m seeing is a cocky attitude developing that we’ve done better than the U.K. and USA, which is hardly an achievement given their respective political chaos and by international comparison we’ve done only ok-ish.


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  • #5791
    boggerman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    Flickerfusion wrote: »
    I sincerely hope we have managed to reduce this to very low levels that will stat that way. Between the mixed messaging and almost zero use of masks and the melting away of people taking it seriously, I’m really worried we are going to see round two in the autumn.

    From a technical point of view what’s changed?

    The virus is still out there in the community and we haven’t become mysteriously immune to it.

    I’m not suggesting lockdown but we do need to realise that we can’t just abandon the hygiene measures just because the lockdown put in a firebreak. We are risking undoing months of slog and sacrifice.

    All I’m seeing is a cocky attitude developing that we’ve done better than the U.K. and USA, which is hardly an achievement given their respective political chaos and by international comparison we’ve done only ok-ish.
    Hello Gerry Killeen!


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