Gone with the Wind Cancelled

Overheal · 17-06-2020 02:36PM

I thought most tech had moved away from those monikers.

Aunt Jemima finally canceled.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/voraciously/wp/2020/06/17/quaker-is-dropping-the-aunt-jemima-image-and-name-after-recognizing-they-are-based-on-a-racial-stereotype/

faceman · 17-06-2020 02:43PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

It’s.a.comedy.

If you find offence in comedy there’s no hope for you.

Absolutely NOTHING should be off limits when it comes to comedy.

THat's a common excuse bad comedians use to justify lowest common denominator comedy. It makes you question the mindset of the comedian. Of the infinite number of topics they could choose for humour, they went for one that would stoke a reaction for all the wrong reasons.

Snickers Man · 17-06-2020 03:14PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

On a slightly different tack, HBO are releasing a new batch of Looney Toons.

Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam, however, have had their guns removed. They will still attempt to slice, run over, explode, crush, or anything else they are trying to do to Bugs and company, but no firearms will be visible.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elmer-fudd-yosemite-sam-guns/

Way to go with priorities, Yanks!!!

The Constitution guarantees the right of Wayne Cheeseburger-Ass and Gary MAGA-Hat to prance about on the steps of local government offices with loaded automatic rifles whining about their rights being infringed but it don't say nothing about cartoon characters so it's fine to take THEIR guns away!!!

Well that's a game changer :eek:

meanwhile American cops still shoot about 1,000 people DEAD every year, and that's not counting those deaths that ensue from over exuberant choke holds, neck kneels, and good old fashioned kickings but hey, as long as Elmer Fudd can't shoot anyone.........:rolleyes:

Joe Columbo · 17-06-2020 03:51PM

faceman wrote: »

THat's a common excuse bad comedians use to justify lowest common denominator comedy. It makes you question the mindset of the comedian. Of the infinite number of topics they could choose for humour, they went for one that would stoke a reaction for all the wrong reasons.

Who gets to decide what should and should not be censored?

If jokes are in really poor taste then generally the comedian would lose popularity and not be as successful, popularity tends to be greatest censor of all and people get to decide it themselves not some arbitrary group of people.

Censorship is just a method of controlling how people think and should be opposed by any sensible individuals.

faceman · 17-06-2020 03:58PM

Joe Columbo wrote: »

Who gets to decide what should and should not be censored?

If jokes are in really poor taste then generally the comedian would lose popularity and not be as successful, popularity tends to be greatest censor of all and people get to decide it themselves not some arbitrary group of people.

Censorship is just a method of controlling how people think and should be opposed by any sensible individuals.

Just because we can do something doesn’t mean we should. Are you suggesting that controversial comedy is the key to success? That makes no sense. Maybe I’m misinterpreting your point.

The suggestion that censorship can be used as a control can be argued both way. At the moment certain types of comedy are adding to the issue of racism being acceptable. We shouldn’t need censorship to tackle. As a society we should do better not to create the content in the first place

Overheal · 17-06-2020 04:02PM

Joe Columbo wrote: »

Who gets to decide what should and should not be censored?

If jokes are in really poor taste then generally the comedian would lose popularity and not be as successful, popularity tends to be greatest censor of all and people get to decide it themselves not some arbitrary group of people.

Censorship is just a method of controlling how people think and should be opposed by any sensible individuals.

People do decide for themselves but corporations are also people. They can choose to host content or not. If it’s not popular with them they are not required to be party to it. That isn’t censorship.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 17-06-2020 04:05PM

Snickers Man wrote: »

1) Thank you for enlightening me about the new Linfield shirt. Keeping up to date with the latest kit issues of any of the "Blues Brothers" is not a top priority for me so I was totally unaware of it.

2) A UVF flag on a Linfield shirt is a very different statement than Cork people having a bit of crack with a "rebel" flag. Linfield fans usually mean it when they praise the UVF. As I said before, Cork fans flying the "Rebel" flag intend no more correlation than the word rebel. And anyway, they will probably leave any such flags at home without quibble. That's not the hill they're going to die on.

How important is all this posey stuff? Not very

Well, they refused to stop for at least a decade after first being asked to.

I assume you'd be alright with it if American football fans were waving UVF flags then.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 17-06-2020 04:23PM

faceman wrote: »

THat's a common excuse bad comedians use to justify lowest common denominator comedy. It makes you question the mindset of the comedian. Of the infinite number of topics they could choose for humour, they went for one that would stoke a reaction for all the wrong reasons.

Ok well tell me what topics shouldn’t be made fun of?

I’m interested.

Joe Columbo · 17-06-2020 05:05PM

faceman wrote: »

Just because we can do something doesn’t mean we should. Are you suggesting that controversial comedy is the key to success? That makes no sense. Maybe I’m misinterpreting your point.

The suggestion that censorship can be used as a control can be argued both way. At the moment certain types of comedy are adding to the issue of racism being acceptable. We shouldn’t need censorship to tackle. As a society we should do better not to create the content in the first place

Banning TV programmes, films ,comedy etc won't stop people being racist people just like to think it but in reality it does nothing if anything it aids popularity of such things by turning the creators in to martyrs.

Again who should get to decide what gets banned.

Maybe I could ask for the Beer Baron episode of The Simpsons to be banned and start a campaign because of it's derogatory depictions of Irish culture.It's as legitimate a complaint as numerous others are (although it's probably my favourite episode of the simpsons).

This is a country that has a history of censoring things and look at how pathetic that was so it's baffling how anybody from Ireland could be in favour of censorship.

Nobody should have any right to tell another adult what they should or should not watch,read or listen to.If you don't like something thing just don't watch it.

Quantum Erasure · 17-06-2020 05:18PM

Overheal wrote: »

I thought most tech had moved away from those monikers.

I was watching Countdown last night, and the crucial countdown conundrum was "whitelist" it was a recent episode, but was probably filmed months ago. (Edit: just looked it up, first broadcast 29/05/2018, with Barry McGuigan in Dictionary Corner)
you'd wonder if it would pass the 'censors' these days, or if those letters came out during a normal round, would contestants feel under pressure not to declare a 9 letter word....

2u2me · 17-06-2020 05:28PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I was watching Countdown last night, and the crucial countdown conundrum was "whitelist" it was a recent episode, but was probably filmed months ago.
you'd wonder if it would pass the 'censors' these days, or if those letters came out during a normal round, would contestants feel under pressure not to declare a 9 letter word....

Do you remember this one?

Overheal · 17-06-2020 05:34PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I was watching Countdown last night, and the crucial countdown conundrum was "whitelist" it was a recent episode, but was probably filmed months ago. (Edit: just looked it up, first broadcast 29/05/2018, with Barry McGuigan in Dictionary Corner)
you'd wonder if it would pass the 'censors' these days, or if those letters came out during a normal round, would contestants feel under pressure not to declare a 9 letter word....

You've just made me think of the scene from Malcom X where they go through the dictionary and look up every "white-" word and every "black-" word - most every black word in English having sinister connotations and white words having innocent ones.

faceman · 17-06-2020 06:07PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Ok well tell me what topics shouldn’t be made fun of?

I’m interested.

Joe Columbo wrote: »

Banning TV programmes, films ,comedy etc won't stop people being racist people just like to think it but in reality it does nothing if anything it aids popularity of such things by turning the creators in to martyrs.

Again who should get to decide what gets banned.

Maybe I could ask for the Beer Baron episode of The Simpsons to be banned and start a campaign because of it's derogatory depictions of Irish culture.It's as legitimate a complaint as numerous others are (although it's probably my favourite episode of the simpsons).

This is a country that has a history of censoring things and look at how pathetic that was so it's baffling how anybody from Ireland could be in favour of censorship.

Nobody should have any right to tell another adult what they should or should not watch,read or listen to.If you don't like something thing just don't watch it.

The fact that people are more irate at the shows being pulled than the issue that triggered all this highlights a massive problem.

This isn't about censorship.

Joe Columbo · 17-06-2020 06:12PM

Overheal wrote: »

You've just made me think of the scene from Malcom X where they go through the dictionary and look up every "white-" word and every "black-" word - most every black word in English having sinister connotations and white words having innocent ones.

None of which have anything to do with skin colour of course.

Joe Columbo · 17-06-2020 06:15PM

faceman wrote: »

The fact that people are more irate at the shows being pulled than the issue that triggered all this highlights a massive problem.

This isn't about censorship.

It is about censorship, that's what the entire thread is about,

In a sensible society nobody should have the right to tell an adult what they can and cannot watch,read or listen to.

Overheal · 17-06-2020 06:18PM

Joe Columbo wrote: »

None of which have anything to do with skin colour of course.

sure

faceman · 17-06-2020 06:25PM

Joe Columbo wrote: »

It is about censorship, that's what the entire thread is about,

In a sensible society nobody should have the right to tell an adult what they can and cannot watch,read or listen to.

This is what white privilege looks like

Joe Columbo · 17-06-2020 06:30PM

faceman wrote: »

This is what white privilege looks like

What an unbelievably moronic comment.

Quantum Erasure · 17-06-2020 06:49PM

Overheal wrote: »

Joe Columbo wrote: »

None of which have anything to do with skin colour of course.

sure

good article here

https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2009/12/the-light-and-dark-of-language.html

The metaphors in question aren’t Western notions, either. From what I’ve been able to find out, they’ve been around since the beginning of time, when people first became aware of the division of their world into day and night, light and dark.
Joseph Campbell, writing in the journal Daedalus in 1959, says it was the Persian philosopher Zoroaster (circa 600 BC) who put the seal on the concept of darkness being evil.

For what it’s worth, we don’t believe that metaphors identifying lightness as positive and darkness as negative are inherently racist. They certainly didn’t begin that way, though these negative connotations have certainly fed into and reinforced racism over the centuries.

suicide_circus · 17-06-2020 06:53PM

Book burning, thats all this stuff is. Utterly grotesque.

Overheal · 17-06-2020 07:02PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Book burning, thats all this stuff is. Utterly grotesque.

No it isn't. Books are burned to erase them. HBO putting a note in front of an old movie about cultural insensitivity doesn't even approach book burning.

faceman · 17-06-2020 07:05PM

Joe Columbo wrote: »

What an unbelievably moronic comment.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to why racism and white privilege in your opinion is not relevant to the conversation?

Quantum Erasure · 17-06-2020 07:11PM

it's all-right lads, we've been given a pass...

Joe Columbo · 17-06-2020 07:19PM

faceman wrote: »

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to why racism and white privilege in your opinion is not relevant to the conversation?

Because the thread is about censorship.

People have no right to tell other adults what they should or should not watch read or listen to.

Edgware · 17-06-2020 07:25PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I was watching Countdown last night, and the crucial countdown conundrum was "whitelist" it was a recent episode, but was probably filmed months ago. (Edit: just looked it up, first broadcast 29/05/2018, with Barry McGuigan in Dictionary Corner)
you'd wonder if it would pass the 'censors' these days, or if those letters came out during a normal round, would contestants feel under pressure not to declare a 9 letter word....

I remember Carol Voderman pulling out the letters in this order FONDLE. Red faces all round. No need to read the mind of every male viewer

suicide_circus · 17-06-2020 07:29PM

Overheal wrote: »

No it isn't. Books are burned to erase them. HBO putting a note in front of an old movie about cultural insensitivity doesn't even approach book burning.

Whatever you say, comrade.

faceman · 17-06-2020 07:54PM

Joe Columbo wrote: »

Because the thread is about censorship.

People have no right to tell other adults what they should or should not watch read or listen to.

So you’re saying that the root cause, racism, is irrelevant to the conversation?

I rest my case.

Joe Columbo · 17-06-2020 08:11PM

faceman wrote: »

So you’re saying that the root cause, racism, is irrelevant to the conversation?

I rest my case.

People can choose to censor things for themselves.They feel they are going to be offended by something they can choose not to watch the film or TV show.They have no right to stop me from enjoying something the way it was intended if that is what I want.

People who want to censor stuff pretend they are doing it for everybody's good but secretly their just pathetic Mary Whitehouse types who want to poke their nose into other peoples business and interfere with their enjoyment.Episodes of comedy shows have been removed because they might cause offence so Ilm being stopped from having the opportunity to view something because someone else doesn't like it.

Censorship for adults is a bad thing simple as that.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 18-06-2020 01:02AM

faceman wrote: »

This is what white privilege looks like

I only saw this now.

You win, I’m dying, very very funny post.

You are joking yeah?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 18-06-2020 07:11AM

Uncle Bens rice brand now gone too. They’re only hurting themselves at this point. That’s another black lad on the social now.

Gone with the Wind Cancelled

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