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George Floyd dies after police knelt on his neck (MOD NOTE IN POST #1)

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  • #9182
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    100s if not thousands of protesters all over the world have got push from police in the last week or so and no ones bated an eyelid , unfortunately the 75 year old fell over and banged his head,

    It is what it is ,i think it was totally blown out of proportion but you have your view which is fair enough ,

    Its over with so move on with your life ,

    Where do you find this complete bull****? We are putting cops away in droves this month for excessive force!


  • #9183
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Here's some 'community engagement' going on in London.

    https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/1270828978551619591

    The only way to de-escalate with a rabble is to show overwhelmingly superior force.

    The police should have a political position: anti-anarchy.


  • #9184
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Is the police Union boss a government job ?

    In all matter of effect yes. They are employed through tax dollars skimmed right off the paycheck of officers, right alongside worker’s compensation and pension and other payroll deduction. The cities they police negotiate union contracts with them. Public pressure can get a union boss canned. Look what’s happening in Minneapolis.


  • #9185
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    2u2me wrote: »
    When it started being framed as 'systemic racism' that's exactly the point when it became political.

    Then it’s been political for 400 years.

    The 13th amendment to the Constitution prohibits slavery EXCEPT for prisoners.

    Yet people see how blacks make over 40% of the prison population in the United States today, 2+ million strong, even though blacks as a whole make up about 16% of the population

    And some people still somehow get in their heads “wow... that must mean blacks are supercriminals” :rolleyes: look a little closer fellas.


  • #9186
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Nermal wrote: »
    Here's some 'community engagement' going on in London.

    https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/1270828978551619591

    The only way to de-escalate with a rabble is to show overwhelmingly superior force.

    The police should have a political position: anti-anarchy.

    “The only way to de escalate is extreme escalation”

    That’s what you said. That’s the problem with society.


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  • #9187
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Nermal wrote: »
    Here's some 'community engagement' going on in London.

    https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/1270828978551619591

    The only way to de-escalate with a rabble is to show overwhelmingly superior force.

    The police should have a political position: anti-anarchy.

    Would the lad not try help the police officer?


  • #9188
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    markodaly wrote: »
    Welcome to the era of ****wittery. Well, I guess it masks over his own failures in tackling Covid-19.

    But it's typical really. The left can never go too far, but anyone to the 'right' of Labour is hard/far-right.

    To be fair every single failing in the world ever is the right or the far rights fault


  • #9189
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Overheal wrote: »
    Yet people see how blacks make over 40% of the prison population in the United States today, 2+ million strong, even though blacks as a whole make up about 16% of the population

    93% of the prison population is male. The disparity of sentencing among sexes is 6 times that of disparity between races for the same crimes.

    No one says the US is systematically sexist; why is that.


  • #9190
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tR6mKcBbT4


    New presentation from Dave about George Floyd and other simmering injustices and why it’s bull**** to expect celebrities to be the spokespeople for this


  • #9191
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,975 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Nermal wrote: »
    Here's some 'community engagement' going on in London.

    https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/1270828978551619591

    The only way to de-escalate with a rabble is to show overwhelmingly superior force.

    The police should have a political position: anti-anarchy.

    This is what people want. And their promoting of anarchy and lawlessness (under the guise of “peaceful” protesting) is what is the problem.

    Utter madness going on right now, and the police, who are trying to protect everyone, are getting it from all sides...disgusting.

    And you can bet people will look at this video and roast the police for brutality..


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  • #9192
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    2u2me wrote: »
    93% of the prison population is male. The disparity of sentencing among sexes is 6 times that of disparity between races for the same crimes.

    No one says the US is systematically sexist; why is that.

    Are you sure nobody says that?

    Wouldn’t the website you pulled that from have said that?

    Aren’t YOU saying that?

    Maybe you should stop making these ****ing ridiculous sweeping statements.

    Women don’t make as good of laborers as men. It’s a multi billion dollar industry.


  • #9193
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,975 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Overheal wrote: »
    Then it’s been political for 400 years.

    The 13th amendment to the Constitution prohibits slavery EXCEPT for prisoners.

    Yet people see how blacks make over 40% of the prison population in the United States today, 2+ million strong, even though blacks as a whole make up about 16% of the population

    And some people still somehow get in their heads “wow... that must mean blacks are supercriminals” :rolleyes: look a little closer fellas.

    Supercriminals?

    Are you implying that a percentage black people in prison are there unjustly?


  • #9194
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Overheal wrote: »
    Where do you find this complete bull****? We are putting cops away in droves this month for excessive force!

    Find me one other case where cop has been put away for a push ?
    If there was one must have missed it ,


  • #9195
    kildare lad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Overheal wrote: »
    Then it’s been political for 400 years.

    The 13th amendment to the Constitution prohibits slavery EXCEPT for prisoners.

    Yet people see how blacks make over 40% of the prison population in the United States today, 2+ million strong, even though blacks as a whole make up about 16% of the population

    And some people still somehow get in their heads “wow... that must mean blacks are supercriminals” :rolleyes: look a little closer fellas.

    Don't forget that 16% commits 52% of the murders. Maybe they're more criminally inclined ??? A bit like George Floyd who done a home invasion and held a gun up to a pregnant woman


  • #9196
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Overheal wrote: »
    There’s nothing unprofessional about community engagement.

    You only say that because you agree with the protest in this case,

    For instance if Garda while in uniform on the job publicly backed people who where out to canvas a NO vote for to repealing the 8th would you say that's professional

    Before you start the gymnastic you like to perform a Yes or a No is all im looking for ?


  • #9197
    MeMen2_MoRi_
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    kildare lad wrote: »
    Don't forget that 16% commits 52% of the murders. Maybe they're more criminally inclined ??? A bit like George Floyd who done a home invasion and held a gun up to a pregnant woman

    No he didn't. Posted yesterday by Overheal it was one his accomplices


  • #9198
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,473 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »
    To be fair every single failing in the world ever is the right or the far rights fault

    I hope that is sarcasm.


  • #9199
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,975 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Find me one other case where cop has been put away for a push ?
    If there was one must have missed it ,

    It was a violent push.....:rolleyes:


  • #9200
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    walshb wrote: »
    Supercriminals?

    Are you implying that a percentage black people in prison are there unjustly?

    Unequivocally 100% yes that is what I am telling you, categorically in the affirmative. Absolutely. Without hesitation. Black men AND women are put into jail to keep prisons profitable. For a long time in modern history there were mandatory life sentences for crack cocaine possession. Imagine going away for life for having $75 worth of crack; a lot of these sentences do not have the possibility of parole. That’s what has happened in my country. These are facts.

    https://www.sentencingproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Cracked-Justice.pdf


  • #9201
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    walshb wrote: »
    It was a violent push.....:rolleyes:

    By definition yes it absolutely was roll your eyes all you like


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  • #9202
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    kildare lad wrote: »
    Don't forget that 16% commits 52% of the murders. Maybe they're more criminally inclined ??? A bit like George Floyd who done a home invasion and held a gun up to a pregnant woman

    52% of convicted murderers.

    Hmm.

    Hm.

    Not like we’ve ever sent an innocent black person to jail before. Have you heard of the Central Park five or not

    And before I let it go unanswered again george Floyd is not the accomplice who aimed the gun at the pregnant woman. If you don’t believe me the court documents are online help yourself I’ve posted them up before.


  • #9203
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Overheal wrote: »
    Without hesitation. Black men AND women poor people are put into jail to keep prisons profitable.

    FYP. White people also receive the same treatment, likewise hispanics, asians. Just to different varying degrees.

    Why split the poor vote between black and white it makes no sense


  • #9204
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    Overheal wrote: »
    Are you sure nobody says that?

    Wouldn’t the website you pulled that from have said that?
    Wikipedia says a lot of things. Sexist or sexism doesn't appear once on that page.

    If you were to try and say the criminal justice system was sexist you would be laughed out of anywhere you said that.


  • #9205
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Now you can order food by race.

    https://twitter.com/UberEats/status/1268643816292020224


  • #9206
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    biko wrote: »
    Now you can order food by race.

    The most extreme views I've seen from the BLM leaders/protestors seems to be that they are looking for segregation. Boggles the mind. :confused: The moderates aren't denouncing this ****; too afraid to speak up.

    They want an apartheid; where there is different justice systems for people with different colour skins.


  • #9207
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Overheal wrote: »
    By definition yes it absolutely was roll your eyes all you like

    By definition the police used self defence ,

    You can push someone way if you tell them numerous times to go away but they continue to walking towards you ,

    But you only like to use definition where it suits you


  • #9208
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    2u2me wrote: »
    FYP. White people also receive the same treatment, likewise hispanics, asians. Just to different varying degrees.

    Why split the poor vote between black and white it makes no sense

    You are also correct.

    It’s really heartbreaking to see with “crack babies”:

    Addict a community to crack,
    Ban abortions,
    Vilify abortions,
    Baby is born addicted to crack cocaine,
    Mother is arrested,
    Baby becomes a ward of the state,
    Nobody adopts crack baby,
    Crack baby becomes a teenage delinquent,
    Crack teen caught with crack,
    Held in jail to await sentencing,
    In jail abused by guards,
    In jail abused by other inmates,
    (If you think I’m exaggerating look up The Program at Rikers Island),
    So whether or not there’s a conviction this young man is already being institutionalized, and then,
    Life without parole (this is changing but inmates are still there),
    Born and raised into a prison system.


  • #9209
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    By definition the police used self defence ,

    You can push someone way if you tell them numerous times to go away but they continue to walking towards you ,

    But you only like to use definition where it suits you

    No it was not self defense. I cannot believe you are still withering and dying on this stupid mother****ing hill. They are arrested. Dig the **** up already?


  • #9210
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,975 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Overheal wrote: »
    By definition yes it absolutely was roll your eyes all you like

    What definition?

    Seriously, you think a dictionary can prove you right here?


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  • #9211
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,953 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Overheal wrote: »
    No it was not self defense. I cannot believe you are still withering and dying on this stupid mother****ing hill. They are arrested. Dig the **** up already?

    Can be arrested all they want it won't stick I court


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