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Canada or Australia?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Canada everytime, sure didn't Hitler come from Australia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,777 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Maybe it's fear of the language barrier but we have a free movement and open jobs market on our doorstep in the EU. No messing around with visas and you can have culture coming out your eyeballs. Live in whatever climate you'd prefer from the heat of southern Spain to the cool climates of Scandinavia and everything in between. But most people you hear only talk about the US, Canada or Australia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Figel Narage


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Maybe it's fear of the language barrier but we have a free movement and open jobs market on our doorstep in the EU. No messing around with visas and you can have culture coming out your eyeballs. Live in whatever climate you'd prefer from the heat of southern Spain to the cool climates of Scandinavia and everything in between. But most people you hear only talk about the US, Canada or Australia.

    Yeah language is an issue, otherwise there'd be no need to leave Europe, you got everything here. I'm considering Malta as English is an official language there but dunno what it's like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭rock22


    They’re a bunch of cultureless swines with an accent that would cut glass. A country of weak beer, blinding heat, and thousands of things that want to kill you.

    I assume you have never been to Australia if you could only find weak beer.
    Australia has great local beers which would put our efforts to shame. They also have some excellent wines and a wide selection of meads .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    This.

    I was in Bondi a few months ago and they were everywhere, you could tell by the heads on some of them that they were the kind of eejits we're better off exporting. Aggressively proud of their Irishness while pissed, telling anyone who'll listen that Ireland is a kip when sober.

    I'd say the more level headed of locals think we're an absolute shower of dopes.

    All very generic and self deprecating. You have to take the good with the bad. Plenty of Irish people out there running big companies and doing well in business. Alan Joyce being one example of many. Australia of today and the people there are built on immigrant backgrounds. The locals you are talking about are in this cohort.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 raik18


    We lived 8 years in Canada. No dry *****s there. Very friendly people. Highly recommend.
    NinjaRambo wrote: »
    I was thinking about getting a work visa for Canada or Australia. I have a few family members in Canada who told me to not bother because in Canada you will get nowhere, mainly due to the high taxes and you won't be able to save up much money.

    So Australia came to my mind. Which would be the more wise option?


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    NinjaRambo wrote: »
    I was thinking about getting a work visa for Canada or Australia. I have a few family members in Canada who told me to not bother because in Canada you will get nowhere, mainly due to the high taxes and you won't be able to save up much money.

    So Australia came to my mind. Which would be the more wise option?

    Australia is going to get fecked over with the wildfires and climate change. But then Canada is right next door to the US which is close to falling apart and could get swamped by American refugees if the worst happens there.


  • Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can also get a WHV for nz and chile afaik

    Id loved to have gone to chile working for a year or 2,when i was younger

    Though id recommend ozzy before canada,its a pretty amazing country in terms of scale and difference to here....

    Canada if you like weed though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,496 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Lovely Canada or deadly skin cancer and spider island. Tough one alright.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,577 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Both countries are equally excellent, in equal but also various non-correlative measures.

    e.g. If you're a pale ginger, Surfer's Paradise may not be the haven it's name suggests.
    Instead a negative 30(c) winter's days watching the BlueJays play might suit better.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭NinjaRambo


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Maybe it's fear of the language barrier but we have a free movement and open jobs market on our doorstep in the EU. No messing around with visas and you can have culture coming out your eyeballs. Live in whatever climate you'd prefer from the heat of southern Spain to the cool climates of Scandinavia and everything in between. But most people you hear only talk about the US, Canada or Australia.

    That's exactly it. Honestly, if I can get an English speaking job anywhere in Europe, I'd prefer that to me moving to Canada or Australia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    I'd choose Australia personally. Canada seems kind of boring tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,541 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Both have their positives and negatives.

    It's cold in Canada in winter, very cold. It's hot in Australia in summer, very hot.

    Both have world-class cities (Sydney/Melbourne/Toronto/Vancouver). Both have vast wildernesses, probably going to get higher paying job in Australia but everything is more expensive.

    If you enjoy beach activities it's Australia, skiing/mountain climbing it's Canada.

    Australia is very far away which is one big negative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    DS86DS wrote: »
    I'd choose Australia personally. Canada seems kind of boring tbh.

    How can one say this?

    It's the people that make a country boring or not.

    You couldn't call the landscape or scenery of Canada boring in any way, in fact Australia has more desert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭wassie


    So NinjaRambo - first of all well done on looking to travel abroad.

    I can't offer to much on Canada, except to say most Canadians I've met traveling are great craic.

    As for Oz, well Sydney & Melbourne are both mad if you want a buzzing big city experience. But the regions are great places too, especially for seasonal work opportunities right around Australia. Amazing beaches, deserts, forests, tropical oasis, mountains, islands all await you. If you are prepared to go the 'country' (i.e. anywhere outside the major state capital cities), generally you will find work opportunities. New Zealand too as others have mentioned, also on your door step equally brilliant. Best of all both are virtually Covid19-free. They will open their borders soon enough so if you are so inclined get planning.

    What ever you decide, living in another country does wonders to stop you turning into an sad, racist keyboard warrior such as many of the posters on the first page of this thread.

    Both alternatives are such huge countries with amazing diversity. You can live in any of the buzzing big cities which will be expensive, right through to the remotest parts of earth which will be super cheap.

    Everyone will have their own biased opinions, as shown by many of the laughable posters in this thread.

    All I can say is that if you do make it to either country, try to say 'yes' instead of 'no' when opportunities present and you will be amazed at where it can lead you. Good luck with it all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭NinjaRambo


    wassie wrote: »
    So NinjaRambo - first of all well done on looking to travel abroad.

    I can't offer to much on Canada, except to say most Canadians I've met traveling are great craic.

    As for Oz, well Sydney & Melbourne are both mad if you want a buzzing big city experience. But the regions are great places too, especially for seasonal work opportunities right around Australia. Amazing beaches, deserts, forests, tropical oasis, mountains, islands all await you. If you are prepared to go the 'country' (i.e. anywhere outside the major state capital cities), generally you will find work opportunities. New Zealand too as others have mentioned, also on your door step equally brilliant. Best of all both are virtually Covid19-free. They will open their borders soon enough so if you are so inclined get planning.

    What ever you decide, living in another country does wonders to stop you turning into an sad, racist keyboard warrior such as many of the posters on the first page of this thread.

    Both alternatives are such huge countries with amazing diversity. You can live in any of the buzzing big cities which will be expensive, right through to the remotest parts of earth which will be super cheap.

    Everyone will have their own biased opinions, as shown by many of the laughable posters in this thread.

    All I can say is that if you do make it to either country, try to say 'yes' instead of 'no' when opportunities present and you will be amazed at where it can lead you. Good luck with it all.

    This is beyond amazing, in depth and helpful. I truly appreciate the time you put into answering my question. Thank you very much, wassie!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭wassie


    Nah all good. Still plenty of good stuff on Boards if you spend the time searching around for both countries:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=912

    Whirlpool is the aussie equivalent of Boards. It is primarily a tech forum, but covers everything else. You could always ask a few questions in the Travel forum to help you decide also. Folk are pretty helpful on that site, just as many trolls also!

    https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/149


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Australia, Canada is not an easy place to live you're always one pay cheque away from sleeping in a park... Canadians are lovely though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    NinjaRambo wrote: »
    I was thinking about getting a work visa for Canada or Australia. I have a few family members in Canada who told me to not bother because in Canada you will get nowhere, mainly due to the high taxes and you won't be able to save up much money.

    So Australia came to my mind. Which would be the more wise option?

    I've lived in both.

    Completely different places.

    Canada all the way for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 dazza181


    Lived in Oz for a year. Loved it. Perth was a quieter city. Very clean and easy enough to get around. Had a car though. Most Irish there were saving money to come home so wasn’t a huge nightlife. Sydney and Melbourne had a lot more going on. Loved Melbourne and would go back in the morning if things were different. Great if you like water sports, jet skiing, off roading, quads, bbq’s etc. Always found the Ozzie’s sound. Great money to be made. NZ is beautiful and short flight away but no real money to be made in agriculture anyhow.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    If your choice is Canada or Australia just go to Canada. Australia is some kip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Figel Narage


    Whats the weather like in Melbourne?

    Heard it wasn't great, not much better then here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭wassie


    Not really. Much warmer than here, but considered 'cold' by a lot of Aussies as its on the 'bottom' of the mainland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Melbourne


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,049 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Australia.

    Canada is great but unless live near City its depressing in parts. But each to their own

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭Tuco88


    I lived in Vancouver and loved it very friendly people, Expensive alright but a great spot. I wouldn't say Canada is for making big bucks unless you go north to the oil sands but thats a different game, I'm sure that sector is after taking a hit also.

    If I had to travel for work again definitely id try Europe Germany etc....

    90% of what people will tell you about how much they are earning in OZ is bollox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,644 ✭✭✭mulbot


    I lived in Vancouver and found the opposite of the above poster. People really unfriendly there, maybe cities are less social places though. Weather was nice in Summer, misty grey drizzle in winter, though head to Whistler and you've great skiing. Too expensive there also, was a good experience but never again, for any money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭NinjaRambo


    wassie wrote: »
    Nah all good. Still plenty of good stuff on Boards if you spend the time searching around for both countries:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=912

    Whirlpool is the aussie equivalent of Boards. It is primarily a tech forum, but covers everything else. You could always ask a few questions in the Travel forum to help you decide also. Folk are pretty helpful on that site, just as many trolls also!

    https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/149

    Thank you so much, highly appreciate it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,112 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I would decide by using the perfectly flawless method of trying to think of things that will kill you there, all based on anecdotes and forum posts.

    Things that want to kill you

    Australia
    - Spiders
    - The heat
    - The sand
    - The air
    - The water
    - The sharks
    - The people

    Canada
    - The snow
    - The people... but they kill you with kindness

    Canada wins! Plus, allegedly, if you're ginger, you will be stalked by women in Canada. To some that would be a negative, but I've been single for quite a while so it sounds really appealing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,541 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Canada has sharks, it has killer bears, it has rattlesnakes, cougars.

    The odds on being killed by a spider in Australia is astronomical. Not one person died from a spider bite between 2000-13.. probably because majority people live in gigantic metropolis' like Sydney and Melbourne where seeing a deadly spider is quite rare let alone get bitten by one.

    It's akin to saying don't move to Ireland because you will be stung by wasps and bitten by midges.
    Whats the weather like in Melbourne?

    Heard it wasn't great, not much better then here

    It's hotter in Melbourne in summer than in Ireland though the temperature dip between the day and evening isn't something that you see here. You will be in shorts and t-shirts and when sun goes down needing a hoodie.

    I know someone who has lived their whole life in Melbourne area (45 years) and he said the coldest temperature he can recall in Melbourne is 4 celsius


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Canada has sharks, it has killer bears, it has rattlesnakes, cougars.

    Cougars you say?


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