Canada or Australia?

NinjaRambo

I was thinking about getting a work visa for Canada or Australia. I have a few family members in Canada who told me to not bother because in Canada you will get nowhere, mainly due to the high taxes and you won't be able to save up much money.

So Australia came to my mind. Which would be the more wise option?

JohnnyFlash

The deal breaker for Australia is it's full of Australians.

NinjaRambo

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The deal breaker for Australia is it's full of Australians.

What's wrong with Australian's?

retalivity

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The deal breaker for Australia is it's full of Australians.

Similar story for Canada - the driest sh1tes i've ever met

cj maxx

NinjaRambo wrote: »

What's wrong with Australian's?

Every single one I have ever met has been a fcucking annoying twat . Every single one!

Church on Tuesday

I couldn't be dealing with the Australian accent.

Fook that.

murpho999

NinjaRambo wrote: »

What's wrong with Australian's?

Is it a test?

There shouldn't be an apostrophe in Australians?


Is that what you were looking for?

PARlance

retalivity wrote: »

Similar story for Canada - the driest sh1tes i've ever met

I'd take a dry sh1te over an annoying sh1te any day.

JohnnyFlash

NinjaRambo wrote: »

What's wrong with Australian's?

They’re a bunch of cultureless swines with an accent that would cut glass. A country of weak beer, blinding heat, and thousands of things that want to kill you.

Pawwed Rig

If only there were more than 2 options

doctorchopper

You'll have a tough time finding a job in Canada at the moment, country is in Bad shape thanks to Trudeau

PARlance

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

They’re a bunch of cultureless swines with an accent that would cut glass. A country of weak beer, blinding heat, and thousands of things that want to kill you.

To its credit, it has taken in some of our finest village idiots. Most acclimatise very well there. It has been and continues to be a good dumping ground.

Tight, obnoxious, racist and a frat/lad culture that would make the US/UK look good at times.

kildare lad

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The deal breaker for Australia is it's full of Australians.

Hahaha.... Was nearly gonna write the same thing. God they're hard work . Kiwis are sound enough tho

Bobblehats

PARlance wrote: »

Tight, obnoxious, racist and a frat/lad culture that would make the US/UK look good at times.

You don’t like the aussie bloke culture?

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

The deal breaker for Australia is it's full of Australians.

There’s a reason for that ..

Sarcozies

Canada is a beauty but can be expensive.

happyoutscan

Australia.

LiquidZeb

Just move somewhere like Germany or France or Austria. As good a standard of living and 10x the culture. Win win.

BorneTobyWilde

Irish people
Canada or Australia

Eh London?
Berlin?
Zurich?

I just don't get it, unless you want to be somewhere that you can't get home from easily, maybe it's a discipline thing, that if you were in London you'd be home a week later as you'd never give it a chance, go to Australia you'll stick it out, can't just pop home in first week.

buried

Just go halfway between the two of them and go to Sentyabrskiy in Russia

Seamai

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Irish people
Canada or Australia

Eh London?
Berlin?
Zurich?

I just don't get it, unless you want to be somewhere that you can't get home from easily, maybe it's a discipline thing, that if you were in London you'd be home a week later as you'd never give it a chance, go to Australia you'll stick it out, can't just pop home in first week.

Berlin for me by a country mile but if I had to choose between Australia and Canada, I'd pick Canada, next choice, which city? I'd choose Montreal over the more obvious Toronto or Vancouver.

Mad_maxx

australia for me

Undertow

I looked at the same options 10 years ago. Chose Australia. Ended up in New Zealand. Go to New Zealand!

Hego Damask

Norway OP!!!!

Highest standard of living on Earth!!!

Figel Narage

Gotta be OZ, Canada is great as well but I'd prefer OZ

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

PARlance wrote: »

To its credit, it has taken in some of our finest village idiots. Most acclimatise very well there. It has been and continues to be a good dumping ground.

This.

I was in Bondi a few months ago and they were everywhere, you could tell by the heads on some of them that they were the kind of eejits we're better off exporting. Aggressively proud of their Irishness while pissed, telling anyone who'll listen that Ireland is a kip when sober.

I'd say the more level headed of locals think we're an absolute shower of dopes.

the purple tin

If you have people in Canada they can get you a job and give a leg up and lodgings.

Lollipops23

Canada all the way- easygoing people, decent wages (although cities are pricey to live in) and good healthcare.

Plus marginally less animals that want to kill you.

Cookie_Monster

New Zealand!, its just like Australia except nicer in every way, the animals aren't all trying to kill you and not everyone is a thief

old_aussie

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

They’re a bunch of cultureless swines with an accent that would cut glass. A country of weak beer, blinding heat, and thousands of things that want to kill you.

That's just a screensaver to keep the undesirables out!

Mad_maxx

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

New Zealand!, its just like Australia except nicer in every way, the animals aren't all trying to kill you and not everyone is a thief

Kiwis ( not the birds) are the only thing I didn't like about new Zealand

biko

'Stralia mate, but not Sydney

corner of hells

Canada everytime, sure didn't Hitler come from Australia.

namloc1980

Maybe it's fear of the language barrier but we have a free movement and open jobs market on our doorstep in the EU. No messing around with visas and you can have culture coming out your eyeballs. Live in whatever climate you'd prefer from the heat of southern Spain to the cool climates of Scandinavia and everything in between. But most people you hear only talk about the US, Canada or Australia.

Figel Narage

namloc1980 wrote: »

Maybe it's fear of the language barrier but we have a free movement and open jobs market on our doorstep in the EU. No messing around with visas and you can have culture coming out your eyeballs. Live in whatever climate you'd prefer from the heat of southern Spain to the cool climates of Scandinavia and everything in between. But most people you hear only talk about the US, Canada or Australia.

Yeah language is an issue, otherwise there'd be no need to leave Europe, you got everything here. I'm considering Malta as English is an official language there but dunno what it's like

rock22

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

They’re a bunch of cultureless swines with an accent that would cut glass. A country of weak beer, blinding heat, and thousands of things that want to kill you.

I assume you have never been to Australia if you could only find weak beer.
Australia has great local beers which would put our efforts to shame. They also have some excellent wines and a wide selection of meads .

ChikiChiki

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

This.

I was in Bondi a few months ago and they were everywhere, you could tell by the heads on some of them that they were the kind of eejits we're better off exporting. Aggressively proud of their Irishness while pissed, telling anyone who'll listen that Ireland is a kip when sober.

I'd say the more level headed of locals think we're an absolute shower of dopes.

All very generic and self deprecating. You have to take the good with the bad. Plenty of Irish people out there running big companies and doing well in business. Alan Joyce being one example of many. Australia of today and the people there are built on immigrant backgrounds. The locals you are talking about are in this cohort.

raik18

We lived 8 years in Canada. No dry *****s there. Very friendly people. Highly recommend.

NinjaRambo wrote: »

I was thinking about getting a work visa for Canada or Australia. I have a few family members in Canada who told me to not bother because in Canada you will get nowhere, mainly due to the high taxes and you won't be able to save up much money.

So Australia came to my mind. Which would be the more wise option?

Madeleine Birchfield

NinjaRambo wrote: »

I was thinking about getting a work visa for Canada or Australia. I have a few family members in Canada who told me to not bother because in Canada you will get nowhere, mainly due to the high taxes and you won't be able to save up much money.

So Australia came to my mind. Which would be the more wise option?

Australia is going to get fecked over with the wildfires and climate change. But then Canada is right next door to the US which is close to falling apart and could get swamped by American refugees if the worst happens there.

You can also get a WHV for nz and chile afaik

Id loved to have gone to chile working for a year or 2,when i was younger

Though id recommend ozzy before canada,its a pretty amazing country in terms of scale and difference to here....

Canada if you like weed though

ancapailldorcha

Lovely Canada or deadly skin cancer and spider island. Tough one alright.

4068ac1elhodqr

Both countries are equally excellent, in equal but also various non-correlative measures.

e.g. If you're a pale ginger, Surfer's Paradise may not be the haven it's name suggests.
Instead a negative 30(c) winter's days watching the BlueJays play might suit better.

NinjaRambo

namloc1980 wrote: »

Maybe it's fear of the language barrier but we have a free movement and open jobs market on our doorstep in the EU. No messing around with visas and you can have culture coming out your eyeballs. Live in whatever climate you'd prefer from the heat of southern Spain to the cool climates of Scandinavia and everything in between. But most people you hear only talk about the US, Canada or Australia.

That's exactly it. Honestly, if I can get an English speaking job anywhere in Europe, I'd prefer that to me moving to Canada or Australia.

DS86DS

I'd choose Australia personally. Canada seems kind of boring tbh.

rossie1977

Both have their positives and negatives.

It's cold in Canada in winter, very cold. It's hot in Australia in summer, very hot.

Both have world-class cities (Sydney/Melbourne/Toronto/Vancouver). Both have vast wildernesses, probably going to get higher paying job in Australia but everything is more expensive.

If you enjoy beach activities it's Australia, skiing/mountain climbing it's Canada.

Australia is very far away which is one big negative.

murpho999

DS86DS wrote: »

I'd choose Australia personally. Canada seems kind of boring tbh.

How can one say this?

It's the people that make a country boring or not.

You couldn't call the landscape or scenery of Canada boring in any way, in fact Australia has more desert.

wassie

So NinjaRambo - first of all well done on looking to travel abroad.

I can't offer to much on Canada, except to say most Canadians I've met traveling are great craic.

As for Oz, well Sydney & Melbourne are both mad if you want a buzzing big city experience. But the regions are great places too, especially for seasonal work opportunities right around Australia. Amazing beaches, deserts, forests, tropical oasis, mountains, islands all await you. If you are prepared to go the 'country' (i.e. anywhere outside the major state capital cities), generally you will find work opportunities. New Zealand too as others have mentioned, also on your door step equally brilliant. Best of all both are virtually Covid19-free. They will open their borders soon enough so if you are so inclined get planning.

What ever you decide, living in another country does wonders to stop you turning into an sad, racist keyboard warrior such as many of the posters on the first page of this thread.

Both alternatives are such huge countries with amazing diversity. You can live in any of the buzzing big cities which will be expensive, right through to the remotest parts of earth which will be super cheap.

Everyone will have their own biased opinions, as shown by many of the laughable posters in this thread.

All I can say is that if you do make it to either country, try to say 'yes' instead of 'no' when opportunities present and you will be amazed at where it can lead you. Good luck with it all.

NinjaRambo

wassie wrote: »

So NinjaRambo - first of all well done on looking to travel abroad.

I can't offer to much on Canada, except to say most Canadians I've met traveling are great craic.

As for Oz, well Sydney & Melbourne are both mad if you want a buzzing big city experience. But the regions are great places too, especially for seasonal work opportunities right around Australia. Amazing beaches, deserts, forests, tropical oasis, mountains, islands all await you. If you are prepared to go the 'country' (i.e. anywhere outside the major state capital cities), generally you will find work opportunities. New Zealand too as others have mentioned, also on your door step equally brilliant. Best of all both are virtually Covid19-free. They will open their borders soon enough so if you are so inclined get planning.

What ever you decide, living in another country does wonders to stop you turning into an sad, racist keyboard warrior such as many of the posters on the first page of this thread.

Both alternatives are such huge countries with amazing diversity. You can live in any of the buzzing big cities which will be expensive, right through to the remotest parts of earth which will be super cheap.

Everyone will have their own biased opinions, as shown by many of the laughable posters in this thread.

All I can say is that if you do make it to either country, try to say 'yes' instead of 'no' when opportunities present and you will be amazed at where it can lead you. Good luck with it all.

This is beyond amazing, in depth and helpful. I truly appreciate the time you put into answering my question. Thank you very much, wassie!

wassie

Nah all good. Still plenty of good stuff on Boards if you spend the time searching around for both countries:
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=912

Whirlpool is the aussie equivalent of Boards. It is primarily a tech forum, but covers everything else. You could always ask a few questions in the Travel forum to help you decide also. Folk are pretty helpful on that site, just as many trolls also!

https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum/149

ArchXStanton

Australia, Canada is not an easy place to live you're always one pay cheque away from sleeping in a park... Canadians are lovely though

BonnieSituation

NinjaRambo wrote: »

I was thinking about getting a work visa for Canada or Australia. I have a few family members in Canada who told me to not bother because in Canada you will get nowhere, mainly due to the high taxes and you won't be able to save up much money.

So Australia came to my mind. Which would be the more wise option?

I've lived in both.

Completely different places.

Canada all the way for me.

dazza181

Lived in Oz for a year. Loved it. Perth was a quieter city. Very clean and easy enough to get around. Had a car though. Most Irish there were saving money to come home so wasn’t a huge nightlife. Sydney and Melbourne had a lot more going on. Loved Melbourne and would go back in the morning if things were different. Great if you like water sports, jet skiing, off roading, quads, bbq’s etc. Always found the Ozzie’s sound. Great money to be made. NZ is beautiful and short flight away but no real money to be made in agriculture anyhow.