When will we fly again? II

Sheep Shagger · 04-06-2020 8:47pm

Emirates back flying from from Dublin from 15 June.

https://m.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/emirates-to-resume-flights-from-dublin-to-dubai-from-june-15-39259621.html

ShineOn7 · 04-06-2020 9:17pm

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Emirates back flying from from Dublin from 15 June.

https://m.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/emirates-to-resume-flights-from-dublin-to-dubai-from-june-15-39259621.html

Dubai still haven't lifted their restrictions on tourists yet though

Sheep Shagger · 04-06-2020 9:47pm

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Dubai still haven't lifted their restrictions on tourists yet though

Transit passengers exempt maybe?

spockety · 05-06-2020 10:27am

http://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0605/1145568-covid19-coronavirus-phase-2-restrictions/

Travel for Irish people to countries where Covid-19 has been successfully supressed will return in a number of weeks, Minister for Business, Enterprise and Innovation Heather Humphreys has said.

Minister Humphreys told RTÉ's Morning Ireland that the Government plans to reintroduce air travel through "airbridges", which will allow travel to countries where the curve has been "flattened" to the same degree as it has here.

She said she would not encourage people to book holidays yet, but she said plans are in place and will be activated as soon as it is safe to do so.

Tenzor07 · 05-06-2020 1:01pm

Good to see the Airlines taking action:

https://news.sky.com/story/ba-owner-considers-legal-action-against-government-quarantine-plan-and-ryanair-vows-support-12000804

titan18 · 05-06-2020 2:31pm

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Good to see the Airlines taking action:

https://news.sky.com/story/ba-owner-considers-legal-action-against-government-quarantine-plan-and-ryanair-vows-support-12000804

It'd be rather pointless. By the time any legal challenge is gone through, it'd likely be late July or August anyway

Clonmel1000 · 05-06-2020 5:22pm

titan18 wrote: »

It'd be rather pointless. By the time any legal challenge is gone through, it'd likely be late July or August anyway

And the quarantine will hopefully be gone then anyway..

coleen · 05-06-2020 11:14pm

Hi I would like to visit my daughter in U.K. in early July she will pick me up at the Airport no visiting or shopping elsewhere,but worried about returning do I still need to self isolate in July

Caranica · 06-06-2020 12:58am

coleen wrote: »

Hi I would like to visit my daughter in U.K. in early July she will pick me up at the Airport no visiting or shopping elsewhere,but worried about returning do I still need to self isolate in July

As it stands, yes. By July? Nobody on here can tell you.

faceman · 06-06-2020 6:13am

coleen wrote: »

Hi I would like to visit my daughter in U.K. in early July she will pick me up at the Airport no visiting or shopping elsewhere,but worried about returning do I still need to self isolate in July

There’s a possibility the quarantine will be relaxed by then however with the U.K. virus figures it’s hard to tell if the government will keep it in place for travellers from U.K.

That being said the quarantine is not In law as it stands. The legal requirement is the completion of the form with your details and you will receive two phone calls (day 2 and 10) confirming your whereabouts.

Gael23 · 06-06-2020 10:31am

I believe that the 14 day quarantine does not apply to travel to and from the U.K.

faceman · 06-06-2020 11:53am

Gael23 wrote: »

I believe that the 14 day quarantine does not apply to travel to and from the U.K.

Quarantine does apply from travellers coming from the U.K. with exception of travel from Northern Ireland

Charles Babbage · 06-06-2020 11:58am

Gael23 wrote: »

I believe that the 14 day quarantine does not apply to travel to and from the U.K.

Sure Britain us the place it us most need fir, as it has the highest rate of infection. In a couple of weeks it will only be required for Britain and Sweden in Europe.

manniot2 · 08-06-2020 9:26am

Talk at the weekend of creating travel bubbles but Spain was not listed as a country. Does that mean that you cannot fly there (even if a flight is going)? Or does that mean that if you fly somewhere outside the bubble, you have to quarantine when you get back? Thanks

faceman · 08-06-2020 11:29am

manniot2 wrote: »

Talk at the weekend of creating travel bubbles but Spain was not listed as a country. Does that mean that you cannot fly there (even if a flight is going)? Or does that mean that if you fly somewhere outside the bubble, you have to quarantine when you get back? Thanks

Probably means quarantine on return but quarantine isn’t in legislation bar the mandatory completion of the form

The bigger issue is if Spain retaliates

ShineOn7 · 09-06-2020 1:35pm

Will these shields on the headrests of seats become standard? Let's hope so

As seen in this article https://www.magzter.com/article/Newspaper/Daily-Express/Ryanairs-battle-to-quash-quarantine-as-families-tempted-by-cut-price-deals?utm_source=admitad-cps_608494_61111X1383796Xce8ca915652c3e19412702bc1a9bbbf9&tagtag_uid=4befb23044511034380b962004bd56b2

opinionated3 · 09-06-2020 2:03pm

Spain now saying that face mask wearing is mandatory until the virus is completely eliminated via vaccine or otherwise. Who wants to go on holidays wearing a poxy mask for the duration?

faceman · 09-06-2020 2:43pm

opinionated3 wrote: »

Spain now saying that face mask wearing is mandatory until the virus is completely eliminated via vaccine or otherwise. Who wants to go on holidays wearing a poxy mask for the duration?

It’s only mandatory in places where social distancing is not possible. I don’t see an issue with that.

ShineOn7 · 09-06-2020 2:50pm

faceman wrote: »

It’s only mandatory in places where social distancing is not possible. I don’t see an issue with that.

Thanks for clearing up what looked like an initially silly requirement

The post you quoted is like Daily Mail clickbait nonsense

opinionated3 · 09-06-2020 2:59pm

faceman wrote: »

It’s only mandatory in places where social distancing is not possible. I don’t see an issue with that.

Cheers for that. The article I read online made it sound all gloom and gloom, almost trying to put potential travellers off from going to Spain this year

faceman · 09-06-2020 3:43pm

opinionated3 wrote: »

Cheers for that. The article I read online made it sound all gloom and gloom, almost trying to put potential travellers off from going to Spain this year

Nah nothing to worry about. Spain has been crushing it. Also their social distance guideline is 1.5m

The bigger question is will they let Ireland and the U.K. in. There was supposed to be an update today from their government on travel but nothing in Spanish papers. They’re trialling german tourists on the islands from mid June

opinionated3 · 09-06-2020 4:10pm

faceman wrote: »

Nah nothing to worry about. Spain has been crushing it. Also their social distance guideline is 1.5m

The bigger question is will they let Ireland and the U.K. in. There was supposed to be an update today from their government on travel but nothing in Spanish papers. They’re trialling german tourists on the islands from mid June

Spanish minister denies being in talks with British re ; airbridges......... Would much prefer a European wide approach with common consensus. I'd prefer that myself too.. supposed to be heading to Portugal on hols in September and would love everyone (airports, airlines, hotels etc) to be singing from the same hymnsheet!

otnomart · 09-06-2020 4:33pm

Update on Balearics and Canaries
"Some 6,000 German visitors will be allowed to visit the archipelago (Balearic Islands) from next Monday without having to observe the 14-day quarantine.
4,000 in Mallorca, 1,000 in Ibiza and 1,000 in Menorca, according to government sources.
The regional government of the Canary Islands has also agreed to take part in a similar pilot project, but wants to introduce tighter safety measures"
Source: https://english.elpais.com/economy_and_business/2020-06-09/spains-balearic-islands-to-welcome-tourists-on-pilot-test-from-june-15.html

faceman · 09-06-2020 6:43pm

opinionated3 wrote: »

Spanish minister denies being in talks with British re ; airbridges......... Would much prefer a European wide approach with common consensus. I'd prefer that myself too.. supposed to be heading to Portugal on hols in September and would love everyone (airports, airlines, hotels etc) to be singing from the same hymnsheet!

You’ll be fine going to Portugal. Leo mentioned them in his recent speech on airbridges

10-06-2020 1:25am

Hoping to get to Spain in September for a few days and definitely flying to Florida in December for a cousins wedding

Gael23 · 10-06-2020 8:04am

Deleted User wrote: »

Hoping to get to Spain in September for a few days and definitely flying to Florida in December for a cousins wedding

I wouldn’t be going next or near the US for the foreseeable future

otnomart · 10-06-2020 11:42am

opinionated3 wrote: »

Spain now saying that face mask wearing is mandatory until the virus is completely eliminated via vaccine or otherwise. Who wants to go on holidays wearing a poxy mask for the duration?

Wearing masks have been saving (so far, touch wood) both Spain and Italy from a second wave.

Masks are mandatory only in indoor public spaces (shops, public transport) and could be made mandatory outdoors when crowded/no distances.

'The decree includes the obligatory use of face masks in closed public spaces where a 1.5-meter safe distance cannot be observed, and also fines of up to €100 for people who are not wearing them. The decree also leaves open the possibility of regulating their use in the open air. However, the application of the restrictions and the measures will fall to regional authorities"

Source: https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-06-09/spanish-cabinet-approves-decree-for-new-normality-after-coronavirus-state-of-alarm-ends.html

10-06-2020 8:31pm

Gael23 wrote: »

I wouldn’t be going next or near the US for the foreseeable future

Why wouldnt you go to the US?I have no problem going over.Relatives live over there and they said everything is getting back to some sort of normality slowly.As i said i am not going until December so hopefully everything is opened back up by then.Cant wait to go over.Getting away to the warm weather for a few weeks

manniot2 · 11-06-2020 9:17am

Deleted User wrote: »

Why wouldnt you go to the US?I have no problem going over.Relatives live over there and they said everything is getting back to some sort of normality slowly.As i said i am not going until December so hopefully everything is opened back up by then.Cant wait to go over.Getting away to the warm weather for a few weeks

Enjoy yourself - ignore the fear-mongers on here.

ziedth · 11-06-2020 12:52pm

We cancelled a holiday to the US in Feb to fly in May when everything kicked off and Naively at the time I thought this would have all blown over by the time the Summer rolled around. To make myself feel better we booked a week in Salou in September and obviously while COVID was at its peak I had also given up on that trip, Kids were devastated both times we told them it wouldn't be happening. The renewed sense of hope for travel is very welcome. Would love to say nothing to the kids and just drive them to the airport in September. The wife will take some convincing to get on the plane mind. Hopefully the downward trajectory of the virus keeps going but i'm at best cautiously optimistic

sideline warrior · 11-06-2020 1:25pm

Interesting update from the Canaries about testing visitors on arrival???

The Canary Islands are planning to welcome thousands of German tourists later this month before Spain's borders officially reopen, but want the visitors to be tested for the coronavirus, a source in the archipelago's government said.

The plan, which still needs a green light from the central government in Madrid, follows an initiative by the Balearic Islands, which will start welcoming German tourists on Monday.

The main difference is that the Balearics will not ask for a test, while the Canaries will.

Spain plans to start reopening its borders to foreign visitors on 1 July, with exceptions for some islands.

The Canary and Balearic Islands are among the Spanish regions least affected by the virus, with around 2,000 confirmed cases each.

The nearly 11,000 German tourists allowed to visit the Balearic Islands from Monday will have to provide health information and contact details and will face temperature checks on arrival, but will not undergo quarantine or testing.

faceman · 11-06-2020 2:06pm

sideline warrior wrote: »

Interesting update from the Canaries about testing visitors on arrival???

The Canary Islands are planning to welcome thousands of German tourists later this month before Spain's borders officially reopen, but want the visitors to be tested for the coronavirus, a source in the archipelago's government said.

The plan, which still needs a green light from the central government in Madrid, follows an initiative by the Balearic Islands, which will start welcoming German tourists on Monday.

The main difference is that the Balearics will not ask for a test, while the Canaries will.

Spain plans to start reopening its borders to foreign visitors on 1 July, with exceptions for some islands.

The Canary and Balearic Islands are among the Spanish regions least affected by the virus, with around 2,000 confirmed cases each.

The nearly 11,000 German tourists allowed to visit the Balearic Islands from Monday will have to provide health information and contact details and will face temperature checks on arrival, but will not undergo quarantine or testing.

Communication from Spain has been confusing at times. I follow the Spanish media and the narrative changes daily.

Current status is borders will open 1st July but Spain may not open to all. They regular single out the U.K. as having no agreement with them and sometimes reference Schengen vs non-Shengen. Then it gets confusing if any of this is relevant beyond 1st July.

Cases of imported Covid-19 are already on the increase but not yet at any level that would cause problems.

Regions are being told today they can open earlier than 1st July on trial basis with countries.

It’s confusing what it being decided nationally and regionally.

Madrid is still not quite there virus wise compared with other regions.

I’d say it will be another week before we get clarity of what the opening their borders will mean to travellers

It does look like their border with Portugal and France will open before the 1st July.

(Although they already contradicted the announcement within hours of it first being made)

Theboinkmaster · 11-06-2020 2:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Why wouldnt you go to the US?I have no problem going over.Relatives live over there and they said everything is getting back to some sort of normality slowly.As i said i am not going until December so hopefully everything is opened back up by then.Cant wait to go over.Getting away to the warm weather for a few weeks

I wouldn't go near the US either it's a complete sh!tshow compared to the rest of the World - deaths in many states still climbing they haven't even hit their peak.

And now with all the protests there's a very real chance of a significant second wave.

Donie75 · 11-06-2020 2:46pm

I'm looking to fly to the UK for a few days. There are no self-isolation/quarantine requirements flying to the UK but flying back to Ireland there are. The Irish regulations are up for review on the 18th of June. Any word if they are likely to be relaxed?

CBear1993 · 11-06-2020 5:43pm

Such scaremongering - the poster said they would be travelling to the US in December.
Which one of you mystic megs could have foreseen the riots and protests in the US a month ago? This is 6 months from now, no one knows what it will be like. But as far as coronavirus is concerned you can bet that New York etc will be well open by December for the Christmas season. They won’t miss the December tourist rush that’s for sure $$$$

11-06-2020 7:14pm

CBear1993 wrote: »

Such scaremongering - the poster said they would be travelling to the US in December.
Which one of you mystic megs could have foreseen the riots and protests in the US a month ago? This is 6 months from now, no one knows what it will be like. But as far as coronavirus is concerned you can bet that New York etc will be well open by December for the Christmas season. They won’t miss the December tourist rush that’s for sure $$$$

Well said Cbear1993.Too much scaremongering going on on these pages.All the negative comments are probably coming from people who wish the country had gone into a full lock down during the pandemic and hadnt opened back up until a vaccine was found. Well i will be off to the States in December (getting away from the cold weather for a few weeks

) I hope people dont listen to the doom merchants and try and get away on holidays this year.Too much negative crap going on and people need to get back to some sort of normality

Micky 32 · 11-06-2020 7:16pm

CBear1993 wrote: »

Such scaremongering - the poster said they would be travelling to the US in December.
Which one of you mystic megs could have foreseen the riots and protests in the US a month ago? This is 6 months from now, no one knows what it will be like. But as far as coronavirus is concerned you can bet that New York etc will be well open by December for the Christmas season. They won’t miss the December tourist rush that’s for sure $$$$

I’m hoping to get over there around Feb/March.

Kerry25x · 11-06-2020 9:37pm

Cambodia are requiring a $3000 deposit from all travellers to cover the cost of covid testing, quarantine while testings and treatment if you're sick. Also, if one person on your flight tests positive then everyone needs to quarantine for 14 days.

Those are very strict requirements. Will be interesting to see what other countries put in place.

Grueller Baby · 12-06-2020 12:13am

Kerry25x wrote: »

Cambodia are requiring a $3000 deposit from all travellers to cover the cost of covid testing, quarantine while testings and treatment if you're sick. Also, if one person on your flight tests positive then everyone needs to quarantine for 14 days.

Those are very strict requirements. Will be interesting to see what other countries put in place.

Who in their right mind is going to give a country a $3000 deposit?

ShineOn7 · 12-06-2020 6:51am

Grueller Baby wrote: »

Who in their right mind is going to give a country a $3000 deposit?

Especially one with as corrupt a government as Cambodia's

Sheep Shagger · 12-06-2020 8:19am

Stobart to restart international Aer Lingus Regional flights from mid July on a phased basis.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/91893-stobart-air-to-resume-intl-aer-lingus-regional-ops-in-3q20

anplaya27 · 12-06-2020 10:22am

Does anyone think there will be flights to USA in Aug? Will be staying with friends so dont have to worry about accommodation.

Kerry25x · 12-06-2020 10:38am

Grueller Baby wrote: »

Who in their right mind is going to give a country a $3000 deposit?

Sounds like they're trying to deter tourists from coming. Or else they really can't foot the bill themselves anymore.

I do feel sorry for all the Cambodian people working in the tourism sector, this will be devastating to them.

List of costs here quoted from the local media:

According to the ministry statement, to take the required Covid-19 test, an arriving foreigner must pay at least $165, including $100 for the test, $5 for transportation from the airport to the testing center, $30 per day for accommodation at a hotel or designated facility while awaiting test results and $30 for three meals per day.

Covid-19 test results usually take about 24 hours to process, the ministry has said.

If an arriving foreigner tests negative for Covid-19, but is placed in quarantine for 14 days because at least one person on their flight tested positive, they will need to pay at least $1,086 during the two-week quarantine period. Additional quarantine service fees include $15 for laundry, $6 per day for doctors and $3 per day for security.

If an arriving foreigner tests positive for Covid-19 and requires treatment at a state hospital, they will pay at least $330 for one day in the hospital. Fees include $30 per day for hospital accommodation and $150 per day for hospital treatment and medicine.

If a foreigner wishes to receive a Covid-19 health certificate, they will pay $130 for the test and certificate fee.

While Cambodia has reported no Covid-19-related deaths, the ministry noted that cremation costs $1,500.

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50732611/foreigners-to-be-charged-for-c-19-quarantine-tests/?fbclid=IwAR0li-PR_zcJxh59_UcniiKyvRKhnxu2Ho7hvbeNgwVh6sk90jJ8gZp-HTY

Caranica · 12-06-2020 10:40am

anplaya27 wrote: »

Does anyone think there will be flights to USA in Aug? Will be staying with friends so dont have to worry about accommodation.

Immigration is a bigger issue than flights tbh. There is talk of lifting the ban on non US citizens/residents but it hasn't happened yet.

jonnny68 · 12-06-2020 2:54pm

Donie75 wrote: »

I'm looking to fly to the UK for a few days. There are no self-isolation/quarantine requirements flying to the UK but flying back to Ireland there are. The Irish regulations are up for review on the 18th of June. Any word if they are likely to be relaxed?

im waiting on this too, ive a flight booked next weekend to the UK but nothing booked back yet, you would hope they would do away with this ridiculous self isolate upon arrival back to Dublin otherwise ill have to get a nightmare overnight ferry from Birkenhead to Belfast then coach to Dublin.

jonnny68 · 12-06-2020 3:04pm

The way things are going id be very surprised if they didn't do away with this stupid self isolate rule upon arrival back to Ireland.

Gael23 · 13-06-2020 8:22pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Why wouldnt you go to the US?I have no problem going over.Relatives live over there and they said everything is getting back to some sort of normality slowly.As i said i am not going until December so hopefully everything is opened back up by then.Cant wait to go over.Getting away to the warm weather for a few weeks

The spread is uncontrolled as states put the economy over people’s health

Micky 32 · 13-06-2020 8:33pm

Gael23 wrote: »

The spread is uncontrolled as states put the economy over people’s health

I go there couple of times a year to family, i don’t think i’d chance it until at least next spring and it depends how things are then,

faceman · 13-06-2020 9:40pm

Micky 32 wrote: »

I go there couple of times a year to family, i don’t think i’d chance it until at least next spring and it depends how things are then,

As much as I’m all for reopening European borders, a level of caution is likely necessary for the US for the rest of the year. No doubt the virus is going to spread like wild fire and god knows what the government will do with publishing figures when it does get out of hand. The second wave in some states as the US media calls it, is not a second wave. The first wave never went away

On top of that the political landscape Is going to get very interesting between now and after the election in November. Trump isn’t going to go without a fight and who knows what will happen when his number is up.

I travel to the US many times a year, it broke my heart leaving there in March. Granted I’d still get on a plane to go this year but it would only be if I deemed it necessary.

Not scaremongering. Just a sense of caution.

CBear1993 · 13-06-2020 11:21pm

Due to go with girlfriend 1st - 6th December New York for the Christmas rush.

Although it mightn’t be so magical If temperatures continue to rise with the tension like they have

When will we fly again? II

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