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Madeleine McCann

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    I’ve no idea. But what matters to most who are actually interested in what happened to Madeleine, and not point scoring or relentlessly blaming the parents, is the fact that it’s being investigated now.
    And that is good news.


    I don't understand your accusations of point scoring.


    It makes it sound like there's going to be a winner here.


    Unfortunately there's not. One loser, Madeleine due to the reckless,selfish and negligent parents who failed to protect her while in a foreign country. Who put their drinking before her safety



    All I want is the truth and the person responsible to get what they deserve.
    If that's Mr.B so be it. As I said. He's not a personal friend. I don't have a bet on somewhere. There's no winning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,131 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I hope something will come of this latest theory, but I'm not that hopeful.

    Shocking the way the Portuguese police AND the UK detectives failed to see this aspect around the time or even soon after the child's disappearance. But maybe they did and dismissed it for lack of evidence or something.

    I don't rate the German police much either. Cannot see how they can say categorically that the child is dead, but have no idea how she died, and have no body. Maybe they have some video evidence or something, shudder.

    But we shall see I suppose if this helps matters progress to a conviction or not. I sincerely hope it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    screamer wrote: »
    Any idea why his prediction could possibly have been so accurate? Perhaps this is the perpetrator and well the Portuguese police knew it, but badly they handled it ?? Shock horror


    So why didn't the British police pick up on years ago when he was passed on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    limnam wrote: »
    So why didn't the British police pick up on years ago when he was passed on?

    I don’t know why you keep asking this question as if someone on this thread holds the answer. We don’t know and couldn’t possibly know. Any insight into why yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    I don’t know why you keep asking this question as if someone on this thread holds the answer. We don’t know and couldn’t possibly know. Any insight into why yourself?


    Oh


    It was a response to a question that no one in the thread could hold an answer to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    I hope something will come of this latest theory, but I'm not that hopeful.

    Shocking the way the Portuguese police AND the UK detectives failed to see this aspect around the time or even soon after the child's disappearance. But maybe they did and dismissed it for lack of evidence or something.

    I don't rate the German police much either. Cannot see how they can say categorically that the child is dead, but have no idea how she died, and have no body. Maybe they have some video evidence or something, shudder.

    But we shall see I suppose if this helps matters progress to a conviction or not. I sincerely hope it does.


    There's something odd about the whole thing.


    Apparently the incident in the pub happened like 6 years ago.


    All of sudden the Germans are coming out with all this we have evidence but no real evidence.


    If they've known about what was said in the pub all this time why now


    If they didn't whats happened with this guy recently they want to put all that out now


    and why did 12 years after it all did your man say a German guy was going to be framed.


    why didn't he say it 10 years ago. or when they past it off to British police


    why 12 months from when all this came out.



    Mad ted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    limnam wrote: »
    There's something odd about the whole thing.


    Apparently the incident in the pub happened like 6 years ago.


    All of sudden the Germans are coming out with all this we have evidence but no real evidence.


    If they've known about what was said in the pub all this time why now


    If they didn't whats happened with this guy recently they want to put all that out now


    and why did 12 years after it all did your man say a German guy was going to be framed.


    why didn't he say it 10 years ago. or when they past it off to British police


    why 12 months from when all this came out.



    Mad ted

    Maybe because, as you say yourself, it was just a guy in a pub talking shlt, and wasn’t worth investigating? And since then they have found something more substantial that they are not willing to disclose at the expense of a fair trial, but still need public help with?
    Most people who have any kind of minor grasp on how these things tend to work would understand that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    Yes: and according to her report, her attacker used the same array of equipment and method that was used in the rape of the older woman in the same area - for which this man, Christian B -- was tried, found guilty, and imprisoned.

    He's a very, very nasty bit of work. And he's into kiddies #puke

    What he’s done so far is disgusting and what he’s been accused of brings it to a new level but he doesn’t have that “Oh he looks like an evil person” look about him and that’s his most dangerous attribute I’d say. Isn’t their honor amongst thieves when he has to be moved to isolation for his own safety. Pity somebody didn’t get a hold of him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    limnam wrote: »
    Oh


    It was a response to a question that no one in the thread could hold an answer to.

    Like so much about this story I guess, we don’t know everything, we only know what we’ve been fed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Maybe because, as you say yourself, it was just a guy in a pub talking shlt, and wasn’t worth investigating? And since then they have found something more substantial that they are not willing to disclose at the expense of a fair trial, but still need public help with?
    Most people who have any kind of minor grasp on how these things tend to work would understand that.


    But what about the peado in the area who changed his reg plate the next day who had previous? It was all so obvious a few posts ago ?



    Why did it not sound obvious to British police to look into him?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    limnam wrote: »
    But what about the peado in the area who changed his reg plate the next day who had previous? It was all so obvious a few posts ago ?



    Why did it not sound obvious to British police to look into him?

    I don’t know, is the long and short of it. But it’s being looked into now and looks promising. Let’s be thankful for that.

    By the way in the same breath you’re saying things like “a car that was forensically checked and found to be clean”, “a guy in a pub chatting shlt” and then lambasting the British police for not being thorough enough.

    Make up your mind would you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    I hope something will come of this latest theory, but I'm not that hopeful.

    Shocking the way the Portuguese police AND the UK detectives failed to see this aspect around the time or even soon after the child's disappearance. But maybe they did and dismissed it for lack of evidence or something.

    I don't rate the German police much either. Cannot see how they can say categorically that the child is dead, but have no idea how she died, and have no body. Maybe they have some video evidence or something, shudder.

    But we shall see I suppose if this helps matters progress to a conviction or not. I sincerely hope it does.

    For me the German Police are giving so much away to get the final piece but surely he can’t get a fair trial now as he’s plastered all over every paper worldwide now. At the start they didn’t have all the info he’s collected since in as far as crimes and related crimes maybe, I’m shocked they didn’t investigate him and the two guys who were “fostering “ German kids at the time that he rented a place with back then. BBC News were in that village in the last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    limnam wrote: »
    But what about the peado in the area who changed his reg plate the next day who had previous? It was all so obvious a few posts ago ?



    Why did it not sound obvious to British police to look into him?

    Apparently his van was forensically checked so they eliminated him from that IMO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭screamer


    limnam wrote: »
    But what about the peado in the area who changed his reg plate the next day who had previous? It was all so obvious a few posts ago ?



    Why did it not sound obvious to British police to look into him?

    Again we don’t know the level of detail or quality of reports furnished to the uk police. What seems to e so easy to see now that the snippets are being pieced together outside a wave of other information makes it seem easy to us, but who knows what they got. Badly translated files? Sketchy details? We don’t know.
    Even I question why this toerags then girlfriend didn’t piece things together when he told her he had an awful job to do in prai the day before Madeline vanished and then when she asked if he knew anything about it after the fact told her not to even go there........ i think she reported this too, so who knows what influences were at play.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭Mules


    I still cant believe how people can leave their small kids alone in an apartment while wining and dining

    Forget about an abduction as its so rare

    Even if they fell, choked, wandered off.

    Even if they had a nightmare and woke up crying.

    I just cant get head around it. I didnt even feel comfortable when my daughter moved from our room into her own room.

    I hate the sight of the McCanns for their neglect of their children.
    Why do you hate the sight of them? it's nothing to do with you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    I don’t know, is the long and short of it. But it’s being looked into now and looks promising. Let’s be thankful for that.

    By the way in the same breath you’re saying things like “a car that was forensically checked and found to be clean”, “a guy in a pub chatting shlt” and then lambasting the British police for not being thorough enough.

    Make up your mind would you.


    Sorry I missed your edit.


    Not lambasting them at all.


    I'm just curious as to why they showed so little interest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    limnam wrote: »
    Sorry I missed your edit.


    Not lambasting them at all.


    I'm just curious as to why they showed so little interest.

    Maybe for the same reasons you are showing him so little interest yourself.
    Fella chatting shlt, clean car.. etc etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Maybe for the same reasons you are showing him so little interest yourself.
    Fella chatting shlt etc etc..


    Yet weird a prediction of framing would come about no ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    limnam wrote: »
    Yet weird a prediction of framing would come about no ?

    Not weird at all imo considering the source.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Not weird at all considering the source.


    So there's enough there for the British police to ignore and pass off.


    Yet this incompetent predicts a framing of someone who the British police have no interest in?


    Then 12 months afterwards we start to hear about zee German


    That's bloody weird.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    7 years not a peep


    then he starts breaking down crying in front of groups


    Then further 6 years nada.



    Lenta told The Mirror: “Once he was completely freaked out when we were sitting in the kiosk with friends and talking about the Maddie case. He wanted us to stop.
    "He cried, ‘The child is now dead and now that’s a good thing. You can make a body disappear quickly’.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    limnam wrote: »
    So there's enough there for the British police to ignore and pass off.


    Yet this incompetent predicts a framing of someone who the British police have no interest in?


    Then 12 months afterwards we start to hear about zee German


    That's bloody weird.

    Maybe his name was being circulated in certain circles, and there is new information available to the powers that be that back up the suspicion? Who knows? All I know is Amal has a vested interest in making the McCanns look as suspicious and guilty as possible. Of course he is going to cover his own ass and say that if he got wind of this new information. Most sensible people just disregard anything that comes out of that chancers mouth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Maybe his name was being circulated in certain circles, and there is new information available to the powers that be that back up the suspicion? Who knows? All I know is Amal has a vested interest in making the McCanns look as suspicious and guilty as possible. Of course he is going to cover his own ass and say that if he got wind of this new information. Most sensible people just disregard anything that comes out of that chancers mouth.

    In fairness he got it right about The German and now let’s see if that’s proven. The British are still treating it as a missing persons case while the Germans are treating it as murder. So maybe The British don’t have the interest in Christian B like The Germans do. The Germans could be using this case to catch him on other cases of the two missing kids in Germany and link that to him renting with two other males who were “fostering” kids at the time it all happened. That doesn’t sit well with me at all. These two need to be investigated as they could of helped in The Madeleine case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Maybe his name was being circulated in certain circles, and there is new information available to the powers that be that back up the suspicion? Who knows? All I know is Amal has a vested interest in making the McCanns look as suspicious and guilty as possible. Of course he is going to cover his own ass and say that if he got wind of this new information. Most sensible people just disregard anything that comes out of that chancers mouth.


    Hard to disregard it though when 12 months later pretty much out of no where or at least for the public at least we're talking about a German with not much to go on apart from someone said X in a pub drunk.


    If this information was available 12 months ago, why was this appeal not done 12 months ago? How would a randomer get this from a competent police force?


    Something gotta give.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Maybe for the same reasons you are showing him so little interest yourself.
    Fella chatting shlt, clean car.. etc etc..

    Mod

    Retro:electro; don't post in this thread again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    screamer wrote: »
    Again we don’t know the level of detail or quality of reports furnished to the uk police. What seems to e so easy to see now that the snippets are being pieced together outside a wave of other information makes it seem easy to us, but who knows what they got. Badly translated files? Sketchy details? We don’t know.
    Even I question why this toerags then girlfriend didn’t piece things together when he told her he had an awful job to do in prai the day before Madeline vanished and then when she asked if he knew anything about it after the fact told her not to even go there........ i think she reported this too, so who knows what influences were at play.


    The Portuguese police stated the British police requested no further information.


    If it was sketchy, would you not reach out for clarification ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    limnam wrote: »
    7 years not a peep


    then he starts breaking down crying in front of groups


    Then further 6 years nada.



    Lenta told The Mirror: “Once he was completely freaked out when we were sitting in the kiosk with friends and talking about the Maddie case. He wanted us to stop.
    "He cried, ‘The child is now dead and now that’s a good thing. You can make a body disappear quickly’.”

    Cried as a form of speech.....not crying tears.

    If anything, with his comment there, rather than confessing I think he was referring to the McCanns being the perpetrators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Cried as a form of speech.....not crying tears.

    If anything, with his comment there, rather than confessing I think he was referring to the McCanns being the perpetrators.


    I thought he was referring to her been better off dead than the alternative :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    limnam wrote: »
    Hard to disregard it though when 12 months later pretty much out of no where or at least for the public at least we're talking about a German with not much to go on apart from someone said X in a pub drunk.


    If this information was available 12 months ago, why was this appeal not done 12 months ago? How would a randomer get this from a competent police force?


    Something gotta give.

    He was due to apply for parole from prison around this time, I took it that the detectives didn't get as much evidence as they hoped and went public, hoping for help from the public and to ruin chances of parole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    limnam wrote: »
    I thought he was referring to her been better off dead than the alternative :(

    I think he implied she is better off that way with those parents, and gave an excuse as to how the parents got rid of the evidence.


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