BBC weather and Ireland.

tom1ie · 08-06-2020 10:09pm #1

Hi all,
This must have been asked before but I can’t find anything on it.
Why does the bbc tv weather forecast not give any details on Ireland, it doesn’t even show Dublin on the map?

squarecircles · 08-06-2020 10:16pm

kind of for the same reason we dont give any weather details for the uk on RTE forecasts,its mostly irrelevant to their domestic audience.

tom1ie · 08-06-2020 10:17pm

squarecircles wrote: »

kind of for the same reason we dont give any weather details for the uk on RTE forecasts,its mostly irrelevant to their domestic audience.

It’d be nice to see Dublin marked on the map though no?
It’s like they’ve taken a view that “we don’t need to talk about that place”
Bit disrespectful imo.

squarecircles · 08-06-2020 10:24pm

umm it doesnt really bother me,its a foreign weather forecast,i dont really expect to be included in their weather graphics.

squarecircles · 08-06-2020 10:26pm

and maybe theyre being culturally sensitive,ya know after the 800 years of occupation tyrany and oppresion etc.

Gaoth Laidir · 08-06-2020 10:27pm

tom1ie wrote: »

It’d be nice to see Dublin marked on the map though no?
It’s like they’ve taken a view that “we don’t need to talk about that place”
Bit disrespectful imo.

Why should they talk about the Republic? It's not their area of responsibilty. They talk about Northern Ireland as it is in it. Their graphics do extend over everywhere, though, so I'm assuming you know where Dublin is on a map and don't need them to show it every time.

I think there's more to your post than meets the eye...

tom1ie · 08-06-2020 10:28pm

Ah fair enough I just thought it was a little disrespectful.
Don’t mind me!!

thenightman · 08-06-2020 10:28pm

If they did, you'd have people up in arms about Ireland being shown on British weather!

tom1ie · 08-06-2020 10:29pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Why should they talk about the Republic? It's not their area of responsibilty. They talk about Northern Ireland as it is in it. Their graphics do extend over everywhere, though, so I'm assuming you know where Dublin is on a map and don't need them to show it every time.

I think there's more to your post than meets the eye...

I think your thinking too much.
It was an innocent question. Relax will ya.

tom1ie · 08-06-2020 10:30pm

thenightman wrote: »

If they did, you'd have people up in arms about Ireland being shown on British weather!

Yep fair point.

squarecircles · 08-06-2020 10:32pm

RTE exclude almost the whole of the uk in their graphics,totally disrespecting London.how dare they.

im leaving this thread now,as i feel very depressed and bored for some reason.

tom1ie · 08-06-2020 10:34pm

There are some absolute morons on boards. Ask an innocent question and random idiots have a go!
Goodnight
Unfollow.

Harry Palmr · 08-06-2020 10:39pm

What a daft question! :pac:

They show the cloud, fronts etc as that's the weather, who's land its over is irrelevant.

NickNickleby · 08-06-2020 10:41pm

thenightman wrote: »

If they did, you'd have people up in arms about Ireland being shown on British weather!

uh oh ..... although not BBC, hope they don't look here :

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gc7x92466#?date=2020-06-11

on the other hand, I suspect there might be some agreement between the broadcasters about this issue. "You don't show us yours, and we wont show you ours" or something.

OldRio · 08-06-2020 10:43pm

tom1ie wrote: »

There are some absolute morons on boards.

.

Says a man who has no idea why the BBC don't mention Ireland.
Deary me.

pad199207 · 08-06-2020 10:46pm

The republic is included in the BBC NI forecasts and the likes of Barra Best is quite widely known across the republic as a result.

To be fair it would be the same as them showing Cherbourg or Calais in the forecasts. Different jurisdiction.

Bogwoppit · 08-06-2020 10:51pm

tom1ie wrote: »

Ah fair enough I just thought it was a little disrespectful.
Don’t mind me!!

Unless you pay for a UK tv license then when is it disrespectful?

mick087 · 08-06-2020 11:04pm

I think the BBC have regional channels like BBC west BBC N Ireland. They do local weather forcasts
RTE and Virgin do the weather in Ireland for all areas of Ireland.

mike2084 · 08-06-2020 11:15pm

If anyone watches ITV weather, they have temperature and weather details for Ireland on their charts, as well as having Dublin and Cork marked on them. They never make any reference to it but you can see it.

Oneiric 3 · 08-06-2020 11:37pm

To be honest, BBC TV weather, much like their 'journalism' in general, has gone downhill in recent years. Their maps are just plain ugly you can barely see them anyway because of the huge place names they feel the need to place on top of them.

They still do their traditional 'symbol' forecasts on their website, which do include Ireland.

https://www.bbc.com/weather/2964574

loughside · 08-06-2020 11:55pm

tom1ie wrote: »

Hi all,
This must have been asked before but I can’t find anything on it.
Why does the bbc tv weather forecast not give any details on Ireland, it doesn’t even show Dublin on the map?

BBC weather and Ireland.

Clue is in the title tom,
British Broadcasting Corporation - it gives UK coverage

fair enough if you wanna become british again - yes??

Mortelaro · 09-06-2020 8:37am

mike2084 wrote: »

If anyone watches ITV weather, they have temperature and weather details for Ireland on their charts, as well as having Dublin and Cork marked on them. They never make any reference to it but you can see it.

Indeed and it's still provided by the UK met office
They started including Dublin, Cork and Galway when utv Ireland started up and never removed them after tv3 merged with them to become vm1. In olden days on the BBC with the maps with physical stick on symbols, weather stopped at the border unless it was Bill Giles or the late great Jack scott
Michael fish never mentioned the Republic
You got the impression he would remove the 26 counties off the map altogether

Sky news does the Republics weather obviously because sky serves here, although their attempt at local sky news Ireland opt outs were a failed experiment some years ago
Its also supplied by the UK met office

screamer · 09-06-2020 8:45am

I’m pretty sure they used to show it years ago. I think the ukmo is better at predicting the weather than our own guesstimating services.

JDxtra · 09-06-2020 8:52am

BBC has been available on TV platforms for decades in Ireland. They are already showing a map of the UK and Ireland. All they need to do put a few extra place names on exactly the same as ITV does.

I am not going to watch the BBC for local weather, but it looks ridiculous that they have intentionally blacked out our cities.

nacho libre · 09-06-2020 11:12am

squarecircles wrote: »

umm it doesnt really bother me,its a foreign weather forecast,i dont really expect to be included in their weather graphics.

When they show their precipitation charts you can get an idea of what the weather will be like in Ireland. I have often used it during wintry periods as a guide.

Harry Palmr · 09-06-2020 11:15am

Do they show Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam or Oslo on the maps? Nope.

Macy0161 · 09-06-2020 11:17am

They used to years ago. Growing up in the UK, I used to get a little excited the odd times Longford (or even Athlone) was pin pointed.

They do show the weather in Ireland though - i'd often use their rainfall forecast to see whether I'm getting out on my Saturday Spin, much better than the RTE option (although use it less since the met.ie upgrade), or as nacho mentions, during the winter to see their take on blue into white.

1huge1 · 09-06-2020 11:18am

Sky News always shows Ireland in their weather reports, though they offer their service directly to Irish consumers so I guess it makes sense.

Anyone else remember the brief stint Sky News Ireland had around 2005?

Oneiric 3 · 09-06-2020 11:28am

loughside wrote: »

fair enough if you wanna become british again - yes??

He writes, in a British language, using a means created, in part, by a Brit.

Oneiric 3 · 09-06-2020 11:35am

Mortelaro wrote: »

Indeed and it's still provided by the UK met office
They started including Dublin, Cork and Galway when utv Ireland started up and never removed them after tv3 merged with them to become vm1. In olden days on the BBC with the maps with physical stick on symbols, weather stopped at the border unless it was Bill Giles or the late great Jack scott
Michael fish never mentioned the Republic
You got the impression he would remove the 26 counties off the map altogether

Sky news does the Republics weather obviously because sky serves here, although their attempt at local sky news Ireland opt outs were a failed experiment some years ago
Its also supplied by the UK met office

First to admit that I have never watch the SKY news weather, and haven't really watched the RTE TV weather in a long while either because I am sick of the ads and sponsorships that cushion it on both sides. A quick read of their ad free forecast on their website is adequate.

StackSteevens · 09-06-2020 11:35am

loughside wrote: »

fair enough if you wanna become british again - yes??

Some of us never stopped!

(I hadn't realised that Boards.ie was a partitionist outfit!)

The Nal · 09-06-2020 11:39am

The British public fund the BBC with the license fee. We're not British so are not entitled to that service.

nacho libre · 09-06-2020 11:45am

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

First to admit that I have never watch the SKY news weather, and haven't really watched the RTE TV weather in a long while either because I am sick of the ads and sponsorships that cushion it on both sides. A quick read of their ad free forecast on their website is adequate.

The RTE forecast has not been the same for me since John Eagleton retired. I watch it sometimes, but mostly i look at their website too.

Oneiric 3 · 09-06-2020 11:46am

The Nal wrote: »

The British public fund the BBC with the license fee.

Not for long more, hopefully. And hopefully we will come to question as to why we are forced to pay a licence fee for our 'national broadcaster' as well, particularly when they are also being being funded by ad revenue as well.

The Nal · 09-06-2020 11:48am

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

Not for long more, hopefully. And hopefully we will come to question as to why we are forced to pay a licence fee for our 'national broadcaster' as well, particularly when they are also being being funded by ad revenue as well.

No issue with RTE being binned but the Beeb produce great stuff. Always have.

Gaoth Laidir · 09-06-2020 12:55pm

Most European national channels only show their own country and not others. Take today's German bulletin from the national channel ARD1. Only Germany is shown and none of the other German-speaking countries like Austria and Switzerland.

To be giving out about BBC not wasting valuable broadcast seconds talking about Ballydehob is just ridiculous. At least they show the model data. If someone can't figure out where Dublin or Cork is from a map then they need help.

Oneiric 3 · 09-06-2020 1:01pm

To be honest, I think anyone who needs to have place names on a weather map in the first place needs help. They are distracting and unnecessary. And if you don't know where Galway or Dublin or Cork is on the map to begin with, then that doesn't say much about your basic level of intelligence.

Madeoface · 09-06-2020 1:32pm

BBC Norn Iron usually show a graphic of the entire island...if u can sit thru 5 mins of Newsline.

Oscar Bravo · 09-06-2020 1:35pm

Madeoface wrote: »

BBC Norn Iron usually show a graphic of the entire island...if u can sit thru 5 mins of Newsline.

Lol newsline. That is depressing stuff

Gaoth Laidir · 09-06-2020 1:44pm

Oneiric 3 wrote: »

To be honest, I think anyone who needs to have place names on a weather map in the first place needs help. They are distracting and unnecessary. And if you don't know where Galway or Dublin or Cork is on the map to begin with, then that doesn't say much about your basic level of intelligence.

I really hate it when some presenters on RTÉ put in the names of every county, with the county outlines too. Clutter for the sake of clutter. If someone doesn't know where in Ireland they're living then they're sure as hell not going to be able to follow what the will be like.

JDxtra · 09-06-2020 1:44pm

Part of your Sky/Virgin subscription goes to the BBC for carriage of the channels.

Nobody wants Irish cities to get a mention on BBC weather, but you can't show a map of the UK without including Ireland - so it's nothing to them to drop a few place names. Exactly the same as ITV already does. It's not about the weather itself, it's just an acknowledgement of a close neighbour.

RTE show Belfast on their weather.

OldRio · 09-06-2020 2:50pm

JDxtra wrote: »

RTE show Belfast on their weather.

Deary deary me. Are you for real?
I do wonder about the education system in this country at times. I really do.
Ask yourself, why show Belfast on a map of Ireland and work back from that.

JDxtra · 09-06-2020 2:59pm

OldRio wrote: »

Deary deary me. Are you for real?
I do wonder about the education system in this country at times. I really do.
Ask yourself, why show Belfast on a map of Ireland and work back from that.

Sorry, but you you are not understanding the issue. It's not about the location of the cities. It's about a courtesy of showing them on a map. RTE weather shows Dublin, Cork, Limerick etc. and Belfast. RTE don't leave a blank space for the whole of NI.

BBC leave a very obvious and intentional blank space over the republic when the vast majority of people in the republic have access to BBC.

OldRio · 09-06-2020 3:09pm

JDxtra wrote: »

Sorry, but you you are not understanding the issue. It's not about the location of the cities. It's about a courtesy of showing them on a map. RTE weather shows Dublin, Cork, Limerick etc. and Belfast. RTE don't leave a blank space for the whole of NI.

BBC leave a very obvious and intentional blank space over the republic when the vast majority of people in the republic have access to BBC.

Why do you think RTE don't leave a blank space? Think about it.

The Nal · 09-06-2020 3:11pm

JDxtra wrote: »

Sorry, but you you are not understanding the issue. It's not about the location of the cities. It's about a courtesy of showing them on a map. RTE weather shows Dublin, Cork, Limerick etc. and Belfast. RTE don't leave a blank space for the whole of NI.

BBC leave a very obvious and intentional blank space over the republic when the vast majority of people in the republic have access to BBC.

The vast majority of French, Belgians, Dutch and Norwegians have access to the BBC too and are very close neighbours.

The BBC is a bit unique because its funded so heavily by the British taxpayer which none of the countries above contribute to. Nor us.

Joe Jellied Eel in Lambeth who pays his fee couldn't care less about the weather in Laois being on the 9 oclock news.

Billgirlylegs · 09-06-2020 3:15pm

three pages of comment on the weather forecast.
is there a fresh storm or 5 feet of snow forecast?

Do you people not know there is a killer pandemic abroad to have a serious pointless argument about?

ZX7R · 09-06-2020 3:22pm

Billgirlylegs wrote: »

three pages of comment on the weather forecast.
is there a fresh storm or 5 feet of snow forecast?

Do you people not know there is a killer pandemic abroad to have a serious pointless argument about?

You know where the pandemic treads are
Go post in them

Gonzo · 09-06-2020 3:59pm

while it would be nice to have the BBC mention our cities and show our weather they don't have to. The old forecast with the weather symbols up to about 2006 I think used to show Ireland and the cities but this was stopped once they brought in the new system without symbols. It doesn't bother me greatly but I do find myself over the years watching BBC weather forecasts much less than I used to.

Even in Spain when I watch the forecasts there, they don't show any symbols or information for Portugal, Gibraltar or France. You get the forecast for the Spanish mainland, the islands an the enclaves. BBC do include Ireland on their website and I've seen it mentioned on BBC World forecasts too.

Oneiric 3 · 09-06-2020 6:57pm

Billgirlylegs wrote: »

Do you people not know there is a killer pandemic abroad to have a serious pointless argument about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58QBK4TVgnY

compsys · 09-06-2020 8:04pm

tom1ie wrote: »

Hi all,
This must have been asked before but I can’t find anything on it.
Why does the bbc tv weather forecast not give any details on Ireland, it doesn’t even show Dublin on the map?

We get so vexed if foreigners mistake us for English and yet we seem to want so many things in the UK to be ours.

I remember the time people got so vexed because they couldn't vote in the X factor - an English TV show.

It's not the BBC's job to forecast the weather in the Rep of Ireland. It's a bit annoying, yes, but we're different countries. And as someone else pointed out, if they did include Dublin, people would probably complain that it's some type of post-colonial brain washing.

Oneiric 3 · 09-06-2020 10:45pm

compsys wrote: »

We get so vexed if foreigners mistake us for English and yet we seem to want so many things in the UK to be ours.

I remember the time people got so vexed because they couldn't vote in the X factor - an English TV show.

It's not the BBC's job to forecast the weather in the Rep of Ireland. It's a bit annoying, yes, but we're different countries. And as someone else pointed out, if they did include Dublin, people would probably complain that it's some type of post-colonial brain washing.

As I mentioned last night though, the BBC and the UK Met Office still give forecasts for Ireland on their website. So do the DMI and I am sure other European Met Services do. When all is said and done, British and Euro met agencies are not half as insular as our own one.. not that I hold that against them, but that is what it is.

BBC weather and Ireland.

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