Digital ID's for everyone

Dohnjoe · 11-05-2020 09:56AM

koutoubia wrote: »

Well whatever you believe about digital implants if that trial is succesfull you are gonna start needing a digital health passport to travel to the Canaries or possibly Spain.

Looks like a good solution. Currently holidaymakers don't want to travel for fear of the disease, and holiday destinations are shut down for fear of outbreaks. A "health passport/app" provides a solution for both during the current crisis.

Joshua J · 08-06-2020 09:35AM

https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh7I9L5HhnKSPNmWlV

You might be on to something @accumulator.

Dohnjoe · 08-06-2020 10:40AM

Joshua J wrote: »

https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh7I9L5HhnKSPNmWlV

You might be on to something @accumulator.

It's a video about a pre-filled syringe with an rfid chip on it

Am I missing something there?

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 03:01PM

Dohnjoe wrote: »

A "health passport/app" provides a solution for both during the current crisis.

The idea of an 'App' to function as immunity certificate is somewhat flawed. It's not persistant or reliable.

Many folks forget their phones, don't have smartphones (olderfolks), don't have bluetooth on all the time (battery drain), might be out of juice (and charger stored in main non-cabin luggage), some may simple refuse to allow access to phone data or refuse the app in the 1st place.

The IoW(uk) trail for tracking using an App was deemed a failure, with low take up, missed readings, double downloads etc etc.

The best and simpliest solution would be a RFID sticker inside 1st page of passport, or a unique QR stamp / serial ID stamp on a passport page, or QR image (printable, or stored as a simple JPG). I.e. Simplicity is the best solution to complex problem).

Even then the jury is still out: if antibodies are reliable in terms of any permanence protection wise, and thus effectiveness.

The end solution thus might well be the Gates' Quantum Dot Tattoo at the same time as the main vaccine (+2 seconds process).

If airline 'require' this, and many folks 'reject' (the QDT part), the airline industry will simply collapse.

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 03:06PM

Joshua J wrote: »

https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh7I9L5HhnKSPNmWlV

You might be on to something @accumulator.

Don't ever watch links to random videos on random website, if as the other chap said if it's an injectable (nano size) chip? then it simple isn't required (within next decade anyway).

A simple quantum dot tattoo is much, much better, easier to scan, and while not a 'chip' the QDT can store 16kb of data (data mark) with ease, so can function as a fully fledged Digital ID, or other cloud pulled blockchain identifier.

08-06-2020 03:08PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

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I.e. Simplicity is the best solution to complex problem).
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The end solution thus might well be the Gates' Quantum Dot Tattoo at the same time as the main vaccine (+2 seconds process).

Umm. Why are you still claiming this?

An Iris scan is far simpler than a quantum dot tattoo.

Again, the only reason you are talking about this tattoo thing is that you believe it was predicted by the bible.

I don't understand why you think this is a reasonable thing to believe.
It's very silly.

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 03:18PM

King Mob wrote: »

Umm. Why are you still claiming this?

Umm. Why are you still claiming this? It's very silly indeed.

An Iris scan isn't blockchain, it isn't a data point, nor data mark able to contain enhanced data string.
It's a singular, "unpaired" biometric measurement, that is all.

id2020.org already have projects than use (upto 16) biometric points (better than a single one), that are then combined with a UNID pair (essential for blockchain encryption), that are then stored as 16kb Azure cloud data packages for download and verification almost anywhere on the planet, often with final end-service tailored delivery as a QRCode.

Did you the skip your basic komputer classes at school or something?
Have you not yet heard of Blockchain (cloud verified)?
Do you understand the effectiveness of UNID Pairing?

08-06-2020 03:36PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Umm. Why are you still claiming this? It's very silly indeed.

An Iris scan isn't blockchain, it isn't a data point, nor data mark able to contain enhanced data string.
It's a singular, "unpaired" biometric measurement, that is all.

id2020.org already have projects than use (upto 16) biometric points (better than a single one), that are then combined with a UNID pair (essential for blockchain encryption), that are then stored as 16kb Azure cloud data packages for download and verification almost anywhere on the planet, often with final end-service tailored delivery as a QRCode.

Did you the skip your basic komputer classes at school or something?
Have you not yet heard of Blockchain (cloud verified)?
Do you understand the effectiveness of UNID Pairing?

Again, we've already shown that Iris scans are being researched by the people in the link you keep posting for some reason.
And again, you believe your silly conspiracy theory because you believe that the bible predicted Quantum Dot Tattoos.
You believe Quantum Dot Tattoos are the mark of the beast.

You spouting silly computer technobabble doesn't really help with your credibility.

An Iris scan isn't blockchain, it isn't a data point, nor data mark able to contain enhanced data string.

Well, it is a data point. And your links have already discussed how an Iris Scan can be used as a secure form of id.

I'm not sure what "data mark able to contain enhanced data string" as it appears to be gibberish.

You also keep forgeting that your link specifically says that the ID will be biometric.
A quantum dot tatoo is not biometric.
You keep trying to twist things to make your tattoo fit, like when you claimed "it's beyond biometric."

It's all very silly.
Not sure why you think anyone is taking you seriously...

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 03:50PM

King Mob wrote: »

Again, we've already shown that Iris scans are being researched by the people in the link you keep posting for some reason.

You're spouting silly ignorance, and clearly have a very poor understanding of even very basic modern or emmerging technologies, ask for help maybe?

In that single example that data was largely useless... until it became used with an assigned 'UnID' to data pair (a unique serial was created as an identifier, the Iris scan was only secondary). Then (the PAIR) it was encrypted with Azure cloud db, and the final delivery mechanism was that of a tailored QRCode presentation.

Keep up dude!

King Mob wrote: »

Well, it is a data point. And your links have already discussed how an Iris Scan can be used as a secure form of id.

See above. A single point unprocessed biometric isn't considered by id2020 as a form of secure 'Digital ID'. It's also non-writable (unlike a QDT which can contain an embedded 6kb data string).

King Mob wrote: »

I'm not sure what "data mark able to contain enhanced data string" means as it appears to be gibberish.

Yes, it would do, to someone who hasn't a 'baldy clue about those komputers'. And it makes you look very silly with such displays of technological ignorance. Welcome to 2020 all the same, enjoy your stay.

08-06-2020 03:56PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

You're spouting silly ignorance, and clearly have a very poor understanding of even very basic modern or emmerging technologies, ask for help maybe?
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Yes, it would do, to someone who hasn't a 'baldy clue about those komputers'. And it makes you look very silly with such displays of technological ignorance. Welcome to 2020 all the same, enjoy your stay.

Again dude, you believe that this is all because of a biblical prophesy.

You aren't a reliable source of information and you aren't at all credible.

You are very clearly spouting nonsense because of your silly and bizarre religious belief.

But for some reason you continue to be deceptive and evasive about your beliefs.

Why are you trying? Who do you think you are convincing?

EyesClosed · 08-06-2020 04:07PM

Even if it is a tattoo......good luck getting the Christains on board.
Leviticus 19:28 - "Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD."
So people just won't get one on religious grounds.
So since the biblical mark of the beast is meant to be a tattoo....how is that going to work?

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 04:07PM

King Mob wrote: »

Again dude...

Again dude, you appear 'simply overwhelmed' with the 'technical bit's and 'komputer factiods', so much so, that you have to resort to elsewhere, to attempt to disengage or try to deflect from these hard facts.

The next generation of DigitalIDs (id2020.org prjects) stands on it's own technical merits for what it is, it does not need any other source (as hard as you may try).

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 04:14PM

EyesClosed wrote: »

Even if it is a tattoo......good luck getting the Christains on board.
Leviticus 19:28 - "Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD."
So people just won't get one on religious grounds.
So since the biblical mark of the beast is meant to be a tattoo....how is that going to work?

Can somewhat see what you mean, if anything, the Jew lads and ladies would be the most offended by having what is in effect a (modern version) of serial number stamped on their arms.

In essence it's a data mark. Like a very small QRCode, but on steriods. A QRCode that use when shopping or document verification can store (in its simply pattern/image): 7089 digits or 4296 characters. (data strings, with multiple querys and results).

By using nano-needles, the QRT will be pushed as holding your 'vaccine record' (type/date/version), as an 'immunity passport'. But it can also store all your x16 biometric measrements, and all your current paper/card IDs. And can be infrared scanned at distance. Thus is suitable as a universal persistant birth-to-death ID (as per id2020.org), and thus also as a digital crypto wallet.

EyesClosed · 08-06-2020 04:15PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Can somewhat see what you mean, if anything, the Jew lads and ladies would be the most offended by having what is in effect a (modern version) of serial number stamped on their arms.

In essence it's a data mark. Like a very small QRCode, but on steriods. A QRCode that use when shopping or document verification can store (in its simply pattern/image): 7089 digits or 4296 characters. (data strings, with multiple querys and results).

By using nano-needles, the QRT will be pushed as holding your 'vaccine record' (type/date/version), as an 'immunity passport'. But it can also store all your x16 biometric measrements, and all your current paper/card IDs. And can be infrared scanned at distance. Thus is suitable as a universal persistant birth-to-death ID (as per id2020.org), and thus also as a digital crypto wallet.

Yes i have read you post this over and over and over and over......I still don't believe you

08-06-2020 04:17PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Again dude, you appear 'simply overwhelmed' with the 'technical bit's and 'komputer factiods', so much so, that you have to resort to elsewhere, to attempt to disengage or try to deflect from these hard facts.

But dude, it's not deflection. It's the central premise of your conspiracy theory.
If it's not, then you just have to clarify and state that you don't believe in the biblical prophesy.

But you keep refusing to do that. This is because it is the central premise of your conspiracy.
I understand why you would be coy at first to pretend you conspiracy is reasonable, but now, it's very obvious. I don't understand why you think anyone is falling for it.

Even if your computer technobabble was accurate, you still believe it's all due to a supernatural prophesy from the bible and that the devil is somehow involved.
That's silly.

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

The next generation of DigitalIDs (id2020.org prjects) stands on it's own technical merits for what it is, it does not need any other source (as hard as you may try).

Sure. And we've already shown how you're misrepresenting things. You don't need to keep posting the link.

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 04:18PM

EyesClosed wrote: »

Yes i have read you post this over and over and over and over......I still don't believe you

Does not matter, not even in the very slightest if you cannot comprehend logic.

i) The technogies exist (including patents).
ii) The viability exists (has been proven in projects and pilots).
iii) The initative, funding, programs and desire exists to actualise it.

08-06-2020 04:19PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Thus is suitable as a universal persistant birth-to-death ID (as per id2020.org), and thus also as a digital crypto wallet.

But it's not persistent birth to death or biometric...

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 04:21PM

King Mob wrote: »

But dude, it's not deflection. It's the central premise of your conspiracy theory.

for the xxx time, id2020.org isn't a CT, it exists, hello?
for the xxx time, QDT isn't a CT, it exists (with patent), hello?

If you wish to connect id2020.org with the skygods, you can vertainly if you wish to, but it isn't a prerequisite as you wish to present it as.

EyesClosed · 08-06-2020 04:25PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Does not matter, not even in the very slightest if you cannot comprehend logic.

i) The technogies exist (including patents).
ii) The viability exists (has been proven in projects and pilots).
iii) The initative, funding, programs and desire exists to actualise it.

But you have been shown over and over how other tech exists thats just as good if not better. Just cause someone had that idea and it was funded doesnt mean anything. Especially knowing how the bill and melinda gates foundation works, which is fund hundreds of ideas and see which is better one.....you know scientific process etc etc.

Also all the sources you have provided have been from Christain websites saying this is the mark of the beast, which is grand but you won't admit that is what you believe which is insanely dishonest.

So if it is the mark of the beast.....how does the tattoo work with what I showed in the bible about tattoos being bad? Or is this "not actually" a tattoo so will be ok.

Melinda Gates is also a catholic so how does that work with her married to the anti christ?

08-06-2020 04:28PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

for the xxx time, id2020.org isn't a CT, it exists, hello?
for the xxx time, QDT isn't a CT, it exists (with patent), hello?

Hi. Yes, i know it exists. But your conspiracy theory interpretation of it and other things are inaccurate and driven by a strange religious conspiracy belief.

You also keep ignoring facts to keep refering to quantum dot tattoos as the best option when they are not. This is so it can fit with your belief in a biblical prophesy.
If they used any number of the other technologies that they list (like iris scans) then it can't be the mark of beast.

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

If you wish to connect id2020.org with the skygods, you can vertainly if you wish to, but it isn't a prerequisite as you wish to present it as.

I don't wish anything...

It's your belief.
You believe that the bible predicted these quantum dot tattoos and that the devil is somehow involved.

Again dude, if that's not the case, you can simply state that you don't believe the bible predicted this.
It's that simple.

But the more you refuse to do this, the more you prove the point.

Again, I just don't understand why you keep pretending.

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 06:23PM

EyesClosed wrote: »

But you have been shown over and over how other tech exists thats just as good if not better. Just cause someone had that idea and it was funded doesnt mean anything. Especially knowing how the bill and melinda gates foundation works, which is fund hundreds of ideas and see which is better one.....you know scientific process etc etc.

This is Jibberish.

Again, Digital ID proposals exist via Gates & ID2020.org etc do not require the support of any skygods, they exist on their own merit.

Sure you can choose to connect them if desired, but this isn't required, if anything it's secondary, and is also a distraction (common diversion tactic).

Gates/BGF already funded the quantum dot tattoo (with patent), id2020 already have projects in existance (using already prescribed technologies) that support their objective of 'DigitalIDs for everyone'.

You looking at black and white facts, and are trying to add colour.
Whilst fun and pretty, it may be viewed here simply as a diversion tactiic.

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 06:30PM

King Mob wrote: »

Hi. Yes, i know it exists.

Digital IDs for everyone, via id2020.org, yes correct dude it exists.
Exists in plain sight and, does their own mission statement.

King Mob wrote: »

But your conspiracy theory interpretation of it and other things are inaccurate and driven by a strange religious conspiracy belief.

Incorrect, 'you alone' are adding the skygod conspiracy element to this thread (lazy diversion tactic).

Sure it may have a 'secondary' connection, moreso as a novelty or 'interesting' angle. But the 'primary facts' do not require or involve skygods. The is2020.org (and Gates) projects, patents (or technologies) and actual programs exist, and are proven on their own right as viable DigitalID soloutions irrelevant of anything else.

id2020.org (includes BillGates/Gavi{vaccines}/Microsoft/Rockerfellas) == DigitalIDs for everyone.

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 06:45PM

King Mob wrote: »

But it's not persistent birth to death or biometric...

As with id2020.org projects in Bangadesh (with their state autorities), vaccinations are to be combine with 'digital identifiers', and are planned from the point of birth.

Likely many of the v1 7,000,000,000 doses of any COVID vaccine will be delivered at birth (along with a digital immunity passport).

The v1 of the QDT is now over a decade in development, the v1 contained data storage capability, and was good for 5yrs of constant (24/7) UV outdoor exposure on pig skin (perhaps 10yrs+ on human skin covered by clothing can be assumed).

The intention from the MIT team is that the next generation (in development) would be:
i) More persistant (intention for full human life cycle, much like regular tattoo).

ii) Store more data (to serve as an enhanced DigitalID data readable point).

EyesClosed · 08-06-2020 07:58PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Digital IDs for everyone, via id2020.org, yes correct dude it exists.
Exists in plain sight and, does their own mission statement.

Incorrect, 'you alone' are adding the skygod conspiracy element to this thread (lazy diversion tactic).

Sure it may have a 'secondary' connection, moreso as a novelty or 'interesting' angle. But the 'primary facts' do not require or involve skygods. The is2020.org (and Gates) projects, patents (or technologies) and actual programs exist, and are proven on their own right as viable DigitalID soloutions irrelevant of anything else.

id2020.org (includes BillGates/Gavi{vaccines}/Microsoft/Rockerfellas) == DigitalIDs for everyone.

To be fair to mob.... You added the god bit.
You linked to the Christian blogs, you even said this was the number of the beast in the Christianity forum.... So is it the number of the beast or not?

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 08:16PM

EyesClosed wrote: »

To be fair to mob.... You added the god bit.
You linked to the Christian blogs, you even said this was the number of the beast in the Christianity forum.... So is it the number of the beast or not?

I linked (once) to the (1st result) of a (1st page, top of page) google search return, once.

Which happend to be something KingBob, DJoe etc (all very keen athiests, and very anti-religious, btw) fawned, frothed and latched onto obsessively over for what seems like eons now. Very sad.

Sure it can be considered supplimental or secondary factors if you choose, it does not eliminate the mission scope of id2020.org to push DigitalIDs for everyone. Indeed id2020.org have enough material of their own.

As such I consider it (any anyone else should) in this particular thread observe it for what it is, a distraction, diversion tactic by the lazy, silly, uninformed or more likely the 'technologically challenged'. Again very sad for them to use as a leverage or crutch.

EyesClosed · 08-06-2020 08:20PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

I linked (once) to the (1st result) of a (1st page, top of page) google search return, once.

Which happend to be something KingBob, DJoe etc (all very keen athiests, and very anti-religious, btw) fawned, frothed and latched onto obsessively over for what seems like eons now. Very sad.

Sure it can be considered supplimental or secondary factors if you choose, it does not eliminate the mission scope of id2020.org to push DigitalIDs for everyone. Indeed id2020.org have enough material of their own.

As such I consider it (any anyone else should) in this particular thread observe it for what it is, a distraction, diversion tactic by the lazy, silly, uninformed or more likely the 'technologically challenged'. Again very sad for them to use as a leverage or crutch.

Is it the mark of the beast? Yes or no.....

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 08:32PM

EyesClosed wrote: »

Is it the mark of the beast? Yes or no.....

Is it a data mark on the arm that will facilitate the buying and selling of goods?
Who knows for sure, anyone got a time machine for 2025-30 and beyond?

It's not like there is a id2020.org based pilot scheme for fiscal 'digital wallet' in Kenya already, or anything like that. Or an id2020.org scheme in Texas that scans the head and arm of the homeless participants, before they can access goods or services. Or a (partner) Microsoft patent last year for embodiment processing of cryptocurrency. Or a (partner) BGate's patent for the QDT data mark.

Oh wait....!
Doh!

Is it a push to give a Digital ID for Everyone?
Yes or no.....

EyesClosed · 08-06-2020 09:06PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

Is it a data mark on the arm that will facilitate the buying and selling of goods?
Who knows for sure, anyone got a time machine for 2025-30 and beyond?

It's not like there is a id2020.org based pilot scheme for fiscal 'digital wallet' in Kenya already, or anything like that. Or an id2020.org scheme in Texas that scans the head and arm of the homeless participants, before they can access goods or services. Or a (partner) Microsoft patent last year for embodiment processing of cryptocurrency. Or a (partner) BGate's patent for the QDT data mark.

Oh wait....!
Doh!

Is it a push to give a Digital ID for Everyone?
Yes or no.....

OK so you are gonna avoid the question, grand so

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-06-2020 09:29PM

EyesClosed wrote: »

OK so you are gonna avoid the question, grand so

It was answered as well as can be: "could be, maybe and who knows".

Without the aid of a timemachine, a future exact event scenario based on writings of 2,000yrs ago, is tricky to confirm either way.
Does it have triats, conditions and potential for this? Certainly.

Anyhow it's all secondary, and thus largely irrelevant (outside of being 'somewhat interesting') to the cold hard presented evidence: projects and mission statements already published, and at hand. Even the keen angry athiests here, can observe this as fact, on id2020.org and through it's partners/associations.

Now, your question is:
"Is there a push (via id2020.org) to give a 'Digital ID's' to Everyone"?

Yes or no.....

EyesClosed · 08-06-2020 09:31PM

Kehlani Massive Magnum wrote: »

It was answered as well as can be: "could be, maybe and who knows".

Without the aid of a timemachine, a future exact event scenario based on writings of 2,000yrs ago, is tricky to confirm either way.
Does it have triats, conditions and potential for this? Certainly.

Anyhow it's all secondary, and thus largely irrelevant (outside of being 'somewhat interesting') to the cold hard presented evidence: projects and mission statements already published, and at hand. Even the keen angry athiests here, can observe this as fact, on id2020.org and through it's partners/associations.

Now, your question is:
"Is there a push (via id2020.org) to give a 'Digital ID's' to Everyone"?

Yes or no.....

We have been through this before. Re read the thread if you want what I've already said, you love running in circles.

Digital ID's for everyone

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