Madeleine McCann

I suppose her refusing to co-operate as a suspect and fleeing the country made it difficult

limnam wrote: »

I suppose her refusing to co-operate as a suspect and fleeing the country made it difficult

Or, you know, no evidence to charge them with anything, as quoted in my post on the last page.

You're big on evidence, right?

dark crystal wrote: »

Or, you know, no evidence to charge them with anything, as quoted in my post on the last page.

You're big on evidence, right?

Just sayin'


Her refusing to co-operate as a suspect and fleeing the country would have made it difficult.

Rock77 wrote: »

I didn’t know if they were suspects or not, my point was at one stage the German was a suspect and you clearly stated he was cleared, how do you know he was cleared? He’s certainly not cleared now

The parents were suspects a long time ago and were cleared (going by the above post) but you fail to acknowledge this.

Not failing to acknowledge anything.


I don't see what talking about them been cleared or not in a discussion on a _different_ suspect has to do with anything

thecomedian wrote: »

So this post is BS?

Yes.

thecomedian wrote: »

So this post is BS?

whats bs about it.
up until last week there were no other suspects only the parents. they havnt been ruled out and a lot of aspect of this make them very suspicious

If the German did do it, then I guess we'll never find out what happened. They've no body and no forensic evidence (they'd have charged him years ago if maddie's DNA was in the camper or the car). They're sending out phone numbers trying to get a contact to rat him out or provoke a confession. Police saying they're 'very close' publicly is very often a gas lighting exercise.

As for my personal opinion on if he done it or not, to be honest I don't think so. Whoever took Maddie (assuming she was kidnapped, which Scotland Yard seem to have assumed) was taken by a very sophisticated operation, leaving not a trace and avoiding a continent wide search surely more than one person involved. A guy who shows someone a video of himself committing a crime to someone in public is probably not the sort of chap who could pull it off.

cgcsb wrote: »

If the German did do it, then I guess we'll never find out what happened. They've no body and no forensic evidence (they'd have charged him years ago if maddie's DNA was in the camper or the car). They're sending out phone numbers trying to get a contact to rat him out or provoke a confession. Police saying they're 'very close' publicly is very often a gas lighting exercise.

As for my personal opinion on if he done it or not, to be honest I don't think so. Whoever took Maddie (assuming she was kidnapped, which Scotland Yard seem to have assumed) was taken by a very sophisticated operation, leaving not a trace and avoiding a continent wide search surely more than one person involved. A guy who shows someone a video of himself committing a crime to someone in public is probably not the sort of chap who could pull it off.

Which also makes the ad-hoc robbery turn kidnapping non-nonsensical



Everything is too clean

Also remember a private eye from Spain scowered the dark web in search of maddie, exposing a number of other peadophiles in the process and getting evidence that lead to solving other missing child cases. Not one peado ring in Europe had a breeze where maddie was. The chap sharing videos on his smart phone would have been surely identified at that stage if he was guilty.

One thing we know about peados is they share images and videos, but not a single image of madie found, even though there have been various cash rewards promised for information.

I don't think she was taken by peados to be honest.

Rock77 wrote: »

Do you think she’s still alive?

Do you think the parents covered up an accident?

I was always of the thinking that she was kidnapped by a peadophile..

I just think that the first thing a normal person does if their child is hurt or unconscious is call an ambulance.

I can't imagine they accidentally killed her and tried to cover it up - it doesn't make sense

How would a cover up benefit the parents more so than admitting guilt? I mean, accidents happen all the time especially with kids.

My 7 yr old impaled herself on the garden gate two years ago, I watched her un- impale herself - complete freak accident . Crumlin for three nights - very lucky

What makes sense is a paedophile ring operating out of the Algarve took her, either planned or unplanned.

Rock77 wrote: »

Do you think she’s still alive?

Do you think the parents covered up an accident?

I was always of the thinking that she was kidnapped by a peadophile..

I just think that the first thing a normal person does if their child is hurt or unconscious is call an ambulance.

Well I don't know, but the simplest, low-drama, explanation is maddie wanders out in search of parents, meets a local drunk driver, the driver panics, realises nobody is around to witness and gets rid of the evidence. This is the simplest scenario and the only realistic scenario that involves only 1 person and leaves not a shred of evidence in the flat.

But I also can't get away from the parents being in some way involved given the general carry on of them or perhaps one of the parent's many friends. Predators usually pick a child they've met before or one that they see all the time. If we imagine the parents done it for a moment, the biggest problem with that scenario is how would they have gotten rid of the body, they would have had to call in local help somehow

A lone predator would have to be very very skilled to do it, he'd have to know the children wouldn't scream and attract attention(i.e. he'd have to know they were out for the count) and also extremely lucky, how would an abductor, no matter how forensic in his planning know that he wouldn't happen to walk past several witnesses between the hotel and the get away vehicle.

cgcsb wrote: »

Well I don't know, but the simplest, low-drama, explanation is maddie wanders out in search of parents, meets a local drunk driver, the driver panics, realises nobody is around to witness and gets rid of the evidence. This is the simplest scenario and the only realistic scenario that involves only 1 person and leaves not a shred of evidence in the flat.

But I also can't get away from the parents being in some way involved given the general carry on of them or perhaps one of the parent's many friends. Predators usually pick a child they've met before or one that they see all the time. If we imagine the parents done it for a moment, the biggest problem with that scenario is how would they have gotten rid of the body, they would have had to call in local help somehow

A lone predator would have to be very very skilled to do it, he'd have to know the children wouldn't scream and attract attention(i.e. he'd have to know they were out for the count) and also extremely lucky, how would an abductor, no matter how forensic in his planning know that he wouldn't happen to walk past several witnesses between the hotel and the get away vehicle.

Yeah, two good points there

I'd say the family friend one is more possible, girl didn't scream as she knew the person, person knew the parents were out and when they would check, they knew the complex and area etc

Did the cops use sniffer dogs in the first 12 hours after the disappearance?