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Madeleine McCann

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    firstly im dydlexic so simple spelling errors happen very easily and for some reason spell check is going haywire putting red lines under words that are correct.

    im not saying all the suspicion should be on them. he looks suspicious too.

    i dont expect them to know about it, how could they . but it suspicious. and note worthy

    im odd , your odd but everything they did around that time is extremly odd. form
    the obvios neglect,
    friend talking about maddies genitals,
    washing toys,
    bags going missing,
    lying to police about windows
    straight away saying they have taken her
    not answering questions,
    drinks with strangers talking about evidense being of no use in court
    playing tennis
    etc


    a few odd things is easy to explain away but there are odd things about everything they did before and after this

    Queue a load of "reasonable" explanations for all the oddness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    limnam wrote: »
    Queue a load of "reasonable" explanations for all the oddness

    isnt it strange that the mccanns are innocent when there are small bits of suspicious behaviour but this german guy is guilty when all we know is that he was in the area and made a phone call. obviously he is an evil bastard but that doesnt make him guilty of this crime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    There’s a hell of a lot of things that are odd about this case and the parents haven’t helped themselves. I believe in looking at both sides of this case and not answering over 40 questions to help find your daughter is odd, jogging the morning after your child goes missing that’s odd etc not criminal but there is a lot of ppl turned on the Mc Canns weather right or wrong. These are only things I’m thinking of in my mind there’s a shed load of things. Either way Madeleine is still missing so she’s the one whose life has been altered or ended sadly.

    They had already answered those 40 questions several times over when they were questioned as witnesses, when they were made Arguidos their solicitor advised them not to answer the questions again as the police were looking to implicate them in Madeleines disappearance.
    If the cops really needed the answers to those questions in the search for the child, they already had them at their disposal.

    I believe they went jogging 13 days after Madeleine’s disappearance and while it’s not something I’d do, everyone responds to stress differently and maybe this was what they needed to cope.

    Personally I think people force themselves into their position and think ‘well if that was me I wouldn’t do XYZ, I’d do ABC’.
    The truth is none of us know how we’d react if our child ever disappeared in those kinds of circumstances. Maybe we’d do things other people would see as odd and suspicious. They were under immense media scrutiny and in a state of panic and distress, some of their behaviour was bound to be odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    limnam wrote: »
    That's not the odd part :)

    Then just why you yourself keep mentioning it is beyond me. Is it just for attention or what?
    I hope I never will be. Should I be. It won't be because I was out wining and dining leaving them at home alone in an unlocked home in a foreign country.

    There's me being odd again :)

    Ah yes, back to the negligence aspect. fair play, you're doing a bang up job of deflecting from the actual suspect who actual police believe may be involved.

    But, you need actual hard evidence before you'll even consider him, amiright? No insinuations or supposition will do there. I guess he's just a different kind of odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    isnt it strange that the mccanns are innocent when there are small bits of suspicious behaviour but this german guy is guilty when all we know is that he was in the area and made a phone call. obviously he is an evil bastard but that doesnt make him guilty of this crime

    Very odd.

    There's a reasonable answer to just about anything brought up about the McCanns. Peado makes a phone call. It must be him!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭MonsterCookie


    limnam wrote: »
    Very odd.

    There's a reasonable answer to just about anything brought up about the McCanns. Peado makes a phone call. It must be him!

    But he’s suspected for more than just making a phone call...thought that would be very obvious :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Then just why you yourself keep mentioning it is beyond me. Is it just for attention or what?



    Ah yes, back to the negligence aspect. fair play, you're doing a bang up job of deflecting from the actual suspect who actual police believe may be involved.

    But, you need actual hard evidence before you'll even consider him, amiright? No insinuations or supposition will do there. I guess he's just a different kind of odd.

    Police believed the McCanns were involved.

    Now 13 years later we're jumping on someone else for making a phone call.

    Yes I'll need more than the guy made a phone call


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    But he’s suspected for more than just making a phone call...thought that would be very obvious :-)

    yes but so were the parent . the Portuguese police investigator strongly believed it was the parents.
    im sure the geman plice have very strong reasons to think he did this but all that is released is very circumstansial but yet people are saying he is guilty and that its great this whole thing is solved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    There’s a hell of a lot of things that are odd about this case and the parents haven’t helped themselves. I believe in looking at both sides of this case and not answering over 40 questions to help find your daughter is odd, jogging the morning after your child goes missing that’s odd etc not criminal but there is a lot of ppl turned on the Mc Canns weather right or wrong. These are only things I’m thinking of in my mind there’s a shed load of things. Either way Madeleine is still missing so she’s the one whose life has been altered or ended sadly.

    Comparing her disappearance to your bank balance going into an overdraft


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    limnam wrote: »
    Queue a load of "reasonable" explanations for all the oddness

    I wouldn't waste my time, tbh. What's odd to some isn't odd to others and I am the type of person who would very much hesitate to rush to judgement about anyone thrust into such an unnatural situation and apply it to my own characteristics or how I feel I would act in such a situation. I'll likely never know for sure.

    If it makes you feel better by doing so, knock yourself out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    limnam wrote: »
    Very odd.

    There's a reasonable answer to just about anything brought up about the McCanns. Peado makes a phone call. It must be him!

    A known violent burglar, convicted pedophile & rapist who’s first convicted sexual assault was against a 6 year old little girl at the age of 16, who just so happened to be close by in the immediate area on the night Madeleine disappeared.
    Who changed the number plates on his van shortly after she disappeared and who told his mate he knows exactly what happened to Madeleine.

    Yeah nothing to see here, just a load of fuss over a fella getting a phone call.

    I’m not saying it’s definitely him but this is the most promising lead we’ve had in 13 years and yet you still dismiss and disregard it. Bizarre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭antgal23


    Too many peeps here pointing fingers at the couple and drawing their own conclusions

    The couple just lost their child - how would you act in such circumstances?

    We can script our encounters with family and friends but to be thrust into the world media and the investigation must have been a walking nightmare

    They made a mistake and paid the highest price

    As I have said, the MPs involvement tells me of a wider paedophile ring operating in the area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    yes but so were the parent . the Portuguese police investigator strongly believed it was the parents.
    im sure the geman plice have very strong reasons to think he did this but all that is released is very circumstansial but yet people are saying he is guilty and that its great this whole thing is solved

    Who said this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    A known violent burglar, convicted pedophile & rapist who’s first convicted sexual assault was against a 6 year old little girl at the age of 16, who just so happened to be close by in the immediate area on the night Madeleine disappeared.
    Who changed the number plates on his van shortly after she disappeared and who told his mate he knows exactly what happened to Madeleine.

    Yeah nothing to see here, just a load of fuss over a fella getting a phone call.

    I’m not saying it’s definitely him but this is the most promising lead we’ve had in 13 years and yet you still dismiss and disregard it. Bizarre.

    None of what you just said is evidence he is in anyway connected to _this_ crime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,233 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    Gonna make a prediction, nothing will come of this latest development. Just a feeling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    antgal23 wrote: »
    The couple just lost their child - how would you act in such circumstances?

    If I left them alone in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country while i went out wining and dining?

    I'd find it very difficult to live with myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    limnam wrote: »
    None of what you just said is evidence he is in anyway connected to _this_ crime.

    Yeah no evidence whatsoever, it’s not one bit suspicious. The fact that he TOLD his friend that he knows what happened to Madeleine has nothing to do with this crime at all, you’re absolutely right.

    You’re clearly one of the ones that even if he gave a full confession you’d still be saying the parents did it. Shameful really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Gonna make a prediction, nothing will come of this latest development. Just a feeling.

    Living on the edge. I like it. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Who said this?

    iv seen it several times on the internet. not sure about this thread explicity but people are saying that they had nothing to do with it as if that is fact. we dont know. an awfull lot of stuff is really odd about them and their behavior. they were the main suspects up until this german guy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    limnam wrote: »
    If I left them alone in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country while i went out wining and dining?

    I'd find it very difficult to live with myself.

    They look like broken people to me. They’re paying the ultimate price for their stupidity, and they’ll pay it for the rest of their lives.
    All about perspective though I guess.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Yeah no evidence whatsoever

    Correct.

    Do you have any evidence he's connected to _this_ crime?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    limnam wrote: »
    Correct.

    Do you have any evidence he's connected to _this_ crime?

    Partial quoting is very poor forum etiquette and bad manners.

    He told his mate he knows what happened to Madeleine. How doesn’t that connect him to this crime?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    SusieBlue wrote: »

    You’re clearly one of the ones that even if he gave a full confession you’d still be saying the parents did it. Shameful really.

    Hey, he's put a lot of time and energy into focusing on the odd parents, a new suspect really messes things up on that front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Partial quoting is very poor forum etiquette and bad manners.

    I wasn't aware you were a moderator.

    I'm a bit old school. I treat it like email etiquette and a snip the parts I'm replying to. If you have any problems with that. Feel free to report the partial quoting.
    SusieBlue wrote: »
    He told his mate he knows what happened to Madeleine. How doesn’t that connect him to this crime?

    Some guy told another guy he knows what happened. That's what you got?

    No evidence then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Hey, he's put a lot of time and energy into focusing on the odd parents, a new suspect really messes things up on that front.

    New suspect haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    New suspect haha

    :confused:

    How did you stumble onto this thread without knowing there was a new suspect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    antgal23 wrote: »
    Too many peeps here pointing fingers at the couple and drawing their own conclusions

    The couple just lost their child - how would you act in such circumstances?

    We can script our encounters with family and friends but to be thrust into the world media and the investigation must have been a walking nightmare

    They made a mistake and paid the highest price

    As I have said, the MPs involvement tells me of a wider paedophile ring operating in the area

    Sorry . They paid the ultimate price is bull**** . Their actions were horrific and they should be punished in court


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    They look like broken people to me. They’re paying the ultimate price for their stupidity, and they’ll pay it for the rest of their lives.
    All about perspective though I guess.

    Mortgage free 6 months post disappearance. Weren't that broken .

    Why did Kate wash maddie's teddy the day after she disappeared ? Surely youd want her scent forever

    Horrible humans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    They had already answered those 40 questions several times over when they were questioned as witnesses, when they were made Arguidos their solicitor advised them not to answer the questions again as the police were looking to implicate them in Madeleines disappearance.
    If the cops really needed the answers to those questions in the search for the child, they already had them at their disposal.

    I believe they went jogging 13 days after Madeleine’s disappearance and while it’s not something I’d do, everyone responds to stress differently and maybe this was what they needed to cope.

    Personally I think people force themselves into their position and think ‘well if that was me I wouldn’t do XYZ, I’d do ABC’.
    The truth is none of us know how we’d react if our child ever disappeared in those kinds of circumstances. Maybe we’d do things other people would see as odd and suspicious. They were under immense media scrutiny and in a state of panic and distress, some of their behaviour was bound to be odd.

    13 days? Sweet lord I’m an easy going person but that’s really angered me that you think I’m that stupid. The next morning they went for a jog and that’s ingrained in my brain. Their behavior contributed to allot of what they suffer, I hope they aren’t involved in any way. I’ll be the first to admit it but I’ll always find their behavior weird in the extreme. Doesn’t make them guilty but it’s made me highly suspicious. There’s nothing straight forward in this case to say we’re all overreacting about the Mc Canns plus it didn’t make me Anti or Pro. I’m pro finding what happened Madeline.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    For me Kate’s first words were she’s been taken then the scene was contaminated by everyone thereafter, that’s not normal behavior, excuse me if parts of all this are coming back after all this time but only Kate’s finger prints were on the shutter and nobody else’s. Tom of strange things


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