Vodafone X - €20 Prepay Offers

26-05-2020 1:05pm

inyourp wrote: »

In fairness I've Vodafone and speed on 4G+ is 90-100mbps, we also have gomo and speed is only 3-5mbps. We live in Newbridge and the tower with Eir and Vodafone is about 200 meters from our house (with direct view).

I'm not sure if Eir is limiting Gomo speeds, but the speeds are fraction of Vodafone, and coverage pretty bad. I suppose for 9.99 it is fine for making phone calls and kids, but for serious data usage Vodafone is only option.

Just tested my GoMo SIM. 100 down, 22 up. Dublin 15.

corks finest · 26-05-2020 7:28pm

Basil3 wrote: »

Just tested my GoMo SIM. 100 down, 22 up. Dublin 15.

My vodaphone PAYG is gone to hell , Max 10 MB download-0.35 upload

Tazzimus · 26-05-2020 8:05pm

corks finest wrote: »

My vodaphone PAYG is gone to hell , Max 10 MB download-0.35 upload

10MB down is very good.
10Mbps is what it'll be in 2 weeks ish.

corks finest · 26-05-2020 9:39pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

10MB down is very good.
10Mbps is what it'll be in 2 weeks ish.

Dreading it

Tazzimus · 26-05-2020 9:53pm

I don't see the issue really, if it's stable and near ish to 10Mbps it'll be grand for pretty much everything you'll be doing on the phone anyway, unless you're using it as a hotspot for the whole house.

corks finest · 27-05-2020 12:39am

Tazzimus wrote: »

I don't see the issue really, if it's stable and near ish to 10Mbps it'll be grand for pretty much everything you'll be doing on the phone anyway, unless you're using it as a hotspot for the whole house.

It's not steady ATM, sometimes up to 50 MB sometimes 2.5

Tazzimus · 27-05-2020 12:54am

corks finest wrote: »

It's not steady ATM, sometimes up to 50 MB sometimes 2.5

Are you confusing MB/s with Mbps?
50MB is about 400Mbps, which is faster than my Virgin Media broadband.

One of the reasons VF are doing this is so they don't end up like 3 and have actual stability in their network.

pm. · 27-05-2020 1:00am

Lads I bought the below and for some reason I can't connect. I have VF unlimited weekends payg, when I use my work sim it's fine vf bill pay

Any reason why it won't connect?

https://techrvw.com/2019/06/08/review-tp-link-m7200-the-mobile-hotspot-for-travelers/

Kenny Logins · 27-05-2020 10:23am

pm. wrote: »

Lads I bought the below and for some reason I can't connect. I have VF unlimited weekends payg, when I use my work sim it's fine vf bill pay

Any reason why it won't connect?

https://techrvw.com/2019/06/08/review-tp-link-m7200-the-mobile-hotspot-for-travelers/

Probably uses the HS APN which you need to pay for.

The Live APN uses your data allowance.

pm. · 27-05-2020 12:10pm

Kenny Logins wrote: »

Probably uses the HS APN which you need to pay for.

The Live APN uses your data allowance.

Thanks for the information, it's a bit over my head. I take it there is nothing I can do to change it? Other than change my plan

Kenny Logins · 27-05-2020 12:42pm

pm. wrote: »

Thanks for the information, it's a bit over my head. I take it there is nothing I can do to change it? Other than change my plan

If there is no APN selection setting on the device you could ask VF to disable the HS APN at account level, but that depends on your plan and if they'll allow you to use the SIM in a hotspot.

Ten Pin · 27-05-2020 1:04pm

I take it there is nothing I can do to change it? Other than change my plan

Connect to the settings of the device through a web browser. The usual address is 192.168.1.1 (type that into browser address bar), check the user manual for steps.

Within settings there should be APN details that can be edited, the APN should be set to live.vodafone.com

The SIM PIN might also need to be entered in the device settings.

Does the SIM work in a phone and if so, does hotspot work from the phone?

pm. · 27-05-2020 2:29pm

Ten Pin wrote: »

Connect to the settings of the device through a web browser. The usual address is 192.168.1.1 (type that into browser address bar), check the user manual for steps.

Within settings there should be APN details that can be edited, the APN should be set to live.vodafone.com

The SIM PIN might also need to be entered in the device settings.

Does the SIM work in a phone and if so, does hotspot work from the phone?

Hi ten pin

Thanks for your reply, I am going to try that now. Yes I can use data from the phone and also hot spot no problem. I will give the settings a go and see if that works

FourFourRED · 27-05-2020 2:34pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Are you confusing MB/s with Mbps?
50MB is about 400Mbps, which is faster than my Virgin Media broadband.

One of the reasons VF are doing this is so they don't end up like 3 and have actual stability in their network.

He obviously means 50Mbps.

pm. · 27-05-2020 2:59pm

Ten pin thank you so much, working perfect now ðŸ‘ðŸ»

corks finest · 27-05-2020 3:25pm

FourFourFM wrote: »

He obviously means 50Mbps.

Yes sorry

corks finest · 27-05-2020 3:27pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Are you confusing MB/s with Mbps?
50MB is about 400Mbps, which is faster than my Virgin Media broadband.

One of the reasons VF are doing this is so they don't end up like 3 and have actual stability in their network.

Yes, sorry,it goes up to great speed and down to crap

homingbird · 02-06-2020 12:05am

Do you get to keep the credit with this deal as I have subs going with my three sim.

shanec1928 · 02-06-2020 6:38am

homingbird wrote: »

Do you get to keep the credit with this deal as I have subs going with my three sim.

No

Snotty · 03-06-2020 4:52pm

Just realized my data wasn't working, checked the usual settings etc, then realized my plan (MusicX) had lapsed, check the app and its a new app, looks like the new app has deleted my recurring payment and i never realized. Might help someone else from missing their topup and using their credit by mistake.

MickH503 · 03-06-2020 5:02pm

Snotty wrote: »

Just realized my data wasn't working, checked the usual settings etc, then realized my plan (MusicX) had lapsed, check the app and its a new app, looks like the new app has deleted my recurring payment and i never realized. Might help someone else from missing their topup and using their credit by mistake.

Thanks for that. Is the €5 Spotify Premium subscription gone? Mine disappeared on last top up and I can't figure out how to get it back!

naughto · 03-06-2020 6:53pm

MickH503 wrote: »

Thanks for that. Is the €5 Spotify Premium subscription gone? Mine disappeared on last top up and I can't figure out how to get it back!

It's still there.get on to web chat thats how I got mine back

thenightman · 03-06-2020 8:15pm

I got 5e free credit when I topped up by 20 in one go, so at least that covers Spotify for another month!

corks finest · 03-06-2020 10:28pm

MickH503 wrote: »

Thanks for that. Is the €5 Spotify Premium subscription gone? Mine disappeared on last top up and I can't figure out how to get it back!

Happened my son,got onto live chat, sorted ( Spotify) at first they couldn't find any proof of him topping up, but he was adamant about it, problem solved

dowtchaboy · 03-06-2020 11:42pm

I just got €52 credit wiped out on Vodafone X.
It's the usual problem - it's happened to me twice before, when I got an OS update and when I changed a handset - you have to delete the bastard APN (hs.whatever) that charges when you use the phone as a hotspot, and only use the live.vodafone one. Unfortunately Moto pushed 5 or so updates at me over the weekend, including update to Android 10, and one of them reloaded the 3 APNs from the SIM - and 2 episodes of The Shield later my internet stopped, out of credit! So at that point I deleted bastard APN and internet resumed. I've complained to Vodafone but they are playing silly buggers like they don't know what I am talking about. Customer service guy seems to be in India.

tjhook · 03-06-2020 11:53pm

dowtchaboy wrote: »

... Unfortunately Moto pushed 5 or so updates at me over the weekend, including update to Android 10, and one of them reloaded the 3 APNs from the SIM...

Yep, from what I've read, Google is in league with the carriers to allow APNs to be locked by those carriers.

When I spoke with Vodafone, they were quite up-front, saying that they won't support tethering. At least not on Vodafone X. I'm ok with that, at least they were honest with me. So I moved to GoMo, who support my requirements. I'm sure there are other carriers that would too.

Between lack of tethering, and the Spotify package being repriced, Vodafone X just wasn't a good deal for me any more.

Skidfingers · 04-06-2020 3:25pm

Does the unlimited data starts on Saturday?

rizzee · 04-06-2020 5:17pm

Skidfingers wrote: »

Does the unlimited data starts on Saturday?

Do you me a the unlimited weekends package?

3pm Friday to midnight Sunday

Skidfingers · 04-06-2020 5:28pm

rizzee wrote: »

Do you me a the unlimited weekends package?

3pm Friday to midnight Sunday

They’re changing the offer from unlimited weekends to unlimited data.

corks finest · 04-06-2020 10:30pm

Skidfingers wrote: »

They’re changing the offer from unlimited weekends to unlimited data.

Yes but throttling back download speeds to a max 10 MB

Ah-Watch · 04-06-2020 10:49pm

From their website...

Unlimited data and weekend calls.
All for €20 every 4 weeks.
€20 top up required every 4 weeks in one go

Unlimited data, maximum speed 10Mbps
Unlimited any network texts
100 any network minutes & Unlimited minutes from 3pm on Fridays until 11.59pm on Sundays

Skidfingers · 05-06-2020 9:08am

corks finest wrote: »

Yes but throttling back download speeds to a max 10 MB

It might still run fine?

Tazzimus · 05-06-2020 10:18am

Skidfingers wrote: »

It might still run fine?

He means 10Mbps.

10Mbps SHOULD still be enough to do pretty much everything you're already doing, but we'll see what it drops to when congestion kicks in and if it's still decent enough speeds.

tjhook · 05-06-2020 10:44am

It's possible that congestion will be *less* of a problem under the new rules - if most people (i.e. the Vodafone Xers) are using less data at any one time.

To be fair, I very rarely found data speeds to be a problem with Vodafone.

Tazzimus · 05-06-2020 10:50am

tjhook wrote: »

It's possible that congestion will be *less* of a problem under the new rules - if most people (i.e. the Vodafone Xers) are using less data at any one time.

To be fair, I very rarely found data speeds to be a problem with Vodafone.

Yeah I don't see this being a huge issue really. Down with herself I'm only getting about 4Mbps and it's still fine for anything I'm doing on my phone.
If VF can keep the data rate stable, then this will be a non issue really.

tdf7187 · 05-06-2020 11:05am

Not seeing the point of this when you can get billpay deals for as little as 20 a month.

Quackster · 05-06-2020 11:05am

Tazzimus wrote: »

Yeah I don't see this being a huge issue really. Down with herself I'm only getting about 4Mbps and it's still fine for anything I'm doing on my phone.
If VF can keep the data rate stable, then this will be a non issue really.

Completely agree. I think some people are getting their knickers in a twist over what will turn out to be a complete non-issue.

corks finest · 05-06-2020 12:42pm

tjhook wrote: »

It's possible that congestion will be *less* of a problem under the new rules - if most people (i.e. the Vodafone Xers) are using less data at any one time.

To be fair, I very rarely found data speeds to be a problem with Vodafone.

I have lately

inyourp · 05-06-2020 12:45pm

corks finest wrote: »

I have lately

So have I.

To be honest to pay 20 euro to have limit on the data is mad. I know Vodafone is premium network but they should also provide premium service.

Prepay can't even access 5G.

And I would struggle with 10mbps speed limit personally. Maybe 4 years ago it would be ok, but not in 2020.

dowtchaboy · 05-06-2020 1:05pm

corks finest wrote: »

I have lately

last night I had the following speeds from Vodafone 4G
at 19.16: Ping 522 Download 0.65Mb. Upload 1.2Mb
at 23.22: Ping 278. Download 0.66Mb. Upload 1.53Mb
at 23.28: Ping 181. download 8.38 Mb Upload 5.66Mb

Obviously I didn't bother watching any streaming TV!

I'm supposed to be in a coverage area with full signal indoors.
When I get a good signal, data rates are usually excellent. But every so often even this stops, inexplicably, for seconds or minutes (signal stays strong but data just goes "duh!").
There are 2 4G towers in range - when I try the one out the back of the house (old farmhouse with 2ft thick granite walls) by taping the phone to the window it can vary wildly over a few minutes from 4 bars to 1, and I have to go kick it every so often to log on to 4G instead of 3G/H.

For sure VF has the best overall network but in recent months there seems to be, let's call it, instability.

dowtchaboy · 05-06-2020 1:38pm

tjhook wrote: »

Yep, from what I've read, Google is in league with the carriers to allow APNs to be locked by those carriers.

When I spoke with Vodafone, they were quite up-front, saying that they won't support tethering. At least not on Vodafone X. I'm ok with that, at least they were honest with me. So I moved to GoMo, who support my requirements. I'm sure there are other carriers that would too.

Seems to depend on who you talk to in Vodafone. It was their (Irish) customer service who told me about deleting the hs.vodafone APN and only using live.vodafone the first time I found that tethering wiped out my credit.

Three used to be explicit about not allowing tethering - in fact I seem to recall a suggestion that they could identify what browser was being used and if it was not an iOS or Android browser they knew you were tethering - dunno if that's true. Now it seems Tesco and 48 and maybe even Three themselves are saying (or not denying) that tethering is OK.

yabadabado · 05-06-2020 2:05pm

tdf7187 wrote: »

Not seeing the point of this when you can get billpay deals for as little as 20 a month.

From Vodafone?

Quackster · 05-06-2020 2:11pm

All the networks have largely similar policies with regards to tethering on PAYG plans - they don't officially support it but they won't stop you doing it either.

You are free to tether but you have to solve any issues you encounter yourself. They won't provide you with any support.

Vodafone just has the additional issue of tethering by default being via the HS APN which is not included in PAYG data allowances.

dowtchaboy · 05-06-2020 2:43pm

dowtchaboy wrote: »

I just got €52 credit wiped out on Vodafone X.
It's the usual problem - it's happened to me twice before, when I got an OS update and when I changed a handset - you have to delete the bastard APN (hs.whatever) that charges when you use the phone as a hotspot, and only use the live.vodafone one......

Just an update - Vodafone very nicely reinstated my €52 credit this morning, after a bit of Twitter back and forth all week. They also reiterated I needed to ensure that APN live.vodafone.com was in place for the Vodafone X thing to work properly. In fact they even gave me step by step instructions on how to manually add this APN - though really there's no need as it's built into the SIM and there's an instruction to reload the APN's from the SIM. But I notice on my phone (Moto G7 Plus) that the list of components of the live.vodafone.com APN is entirely greyed out, so it can't be edited any more - a consequence of Android 10, perhaps, as others have alluded to above?
TBH I'm happy to continue with them, especially if the data rates settle down in my neck of the woods - 10Mbps is more than adequate for my needs.

RoYoBo · 05-06-2020 5:43pm

dowtchaboy wrote: »

But I notice on my phone (Moto G7 Plus) that the list of components of the live.vodafone.com APN is entirely greyed out, so it can't be edited any more - a consequence of Android 10, perhaps, as others have alluded to above?

I still have Android 9 on my MotoG7 Power - not sure if/when it will upgrade to 10. Thanks for the heads up on the APN change.
Just want to clarify that you can choose the live one and delete the other high speed one? I got caught before with that expense and had to make sure it was deleted because it seemed to 'choose' the costly one now and again if it was left there.

dowtchaboy · 05-06-2020 8:26pm

RoYoBo wrote: »

I still have Android 9 on my MotoG7 Power - not sure if/when it will upgrade to 10. Thanks for the heads up on the APN change.
Just want to clarify that you can choose the live one and delete the other high speed one? I got caught before with that expense and had to make sure it was deleted because it seemed to 'choose' the costly one now and again if it was left there.

This "choosing" the costly one was the argument I've had all week with Vodafone - some of the customer service people know about it, others deny the possibility. Up to now with the Moto G7 and the previous ones, I could simply delete APN hs.vodafone.ie and the phone would then route everything through live.vodafone.com which is correct for the plan amount (20GB later 25 then 30GB) and for the unlimited at weekend deal. The 3 APNs remained on the SIM though and could reappear after a change of phone, or, it now appears, after a major update. Today was the first time I saw the values of the live.vodafone APN greyed out and I could not edit them. What I don't know is whether I could delete the entire APN and then create a new one with the same name and with the same values, and I don't want to try in case I can't! AFAIK I have only had this situation since I was upgraded to Android 10 on Sunday.

OK - I just looked at the APNs. I clicked on the top right 3 dots and clicked on "Reset to Default". It reinstalled all 3 including the bastard one, which I then was able to click on and delete. The live.vodafone.com has a green circle beside it that won't go away - never saw that before. Clicking on this APN opens it up all right but all is greyed, and there is NO menu top right to delete, edit or save. In fact some of the values are not as Vodafone indicated they should be but there is nothing I can do about that.

So I guess the outcome is you (and I ) will just have to be careful if ever we change SIM, or handset, or get a major update to immediately go check the bastard APN has not returned from the dead. The new Android 10 seems nice though - night mode, seems a bit lighter on power, and the "settings" seem easier to move around and stuff.

corks finest · 05-06-2020 9:18pm

inyourp wrote: »

So have I.

To be honest to pay 20 euro to have limit on the data is mad. I know Vodafone is premium network but they should also provide premium service.

Prepay can't even access 5G.

And I would struggle with 10mbps speed limit personally. Maybe 4 years ago it would be ok, but not in 2020.

Same here I've my IPTV sub non phone as a backup or if waiting for my kid at sports etc ,bit 10 MB won't cut it

corks finest · 05-06-2020 9:20pm

dowtchaboy wrote: »

last night I had the following speeds from Vodafone 4G
at 19.16: Ping 522 Download 0.65Mb. Upload 1.2Mb
at 23.22: Ping 278. Download 0.66Mb. Upload 1.53Mb
at 23.28: Ping 181. download 8.38 Mb Upload 5.66Mb

Obviously I didn't bother watching any streaming TV!

I'm supposed to be in a coverage area with full signal indoors.
When I get a good signal, data rates are usually excellent. But every so often even this stops, inexplicably, for seconds or minutes (signal stays strong but data just goes "duh!").
There are 2 4G towers in range - when I try the one out the back of the house (old farmhouse with 2ft thick granite walls) by taping the phone to the window it can vary wildly over a few minutes from 4 bars to 1, and I have to go kick it every so often to log on to 4G instead of 3G/H.

For sure VF has the best overall network but in recent months there seems to be, let's call it, instability.

Same basically,was on live chat today for yonks - complete waste of time

corks finest · 05-06-2020 9:24pm

tjhook wrote: »

It's possible that congestion will be *less* of a problem under the new rules - if most people (i.e. the Vodafone Xers) are using less data at any one time.

To be fair, I very rarely found data speeds to be a problem with Vodafone.

Neither did I but last 4/5 weeks is hit n miss

Tazzimus · 05-06-2020 9:40pm

corks finest wrote: »

Same here I've my IPTV sub non phone as a backup or if waiting for my kid at sports etc ,bit 10 MB won't cut it

I've watched UFC events with less than 10Mbps on my IPTV sub on my phone and it's been fine.

****, my Virgin router was acting the maggot yesterday and I was only getting about 7Mbps on the work laptop on WiFi, I could still do my days work fine.

And please type it as 10Mbps, 10MB is completely different.

Vodafone X - €20 Prepay Offers

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