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John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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  • #4682
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    And lads, at the end of all this the bugger and his helpers will still not face a court of law. As far as I am aware one of his front line generals is still sticking to his seat in the FAI after it was proven that he claimed to have contracted Gardai to hack supporters phones, he organised searches of fans home and away to protect JD and did a lot more for him. If this man was not as loyal to his old boss I am sure there would be enough to put him behind gates......but then again they all seem to have had sticky fingers.


  • #4683
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,633 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Yeah he is still in the job .Id love to know what he's at now that he doesn't have to babysit JD .


  • #4684
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Yeah he is still in the job .Id love to know what he's at now that he doesn't have to babysit JD .


    Doing a cleaning job.....still actively working for JD I would say.


  • #4685
    u140acro3xs7dm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭u140acro3xs7dm


    Never mind the fact that JD was corrupt as ****, he seems to be an absolutely horrendous business man.


  • #4686
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    Jad Small Birdseed wrote: »
    Never mind the fact that JD was corrupt as ****, he seems to be an absolutely horrendous business man.


    Depends on how you look at it.....
    1. If you look at it from the perspective of the FAI..he was tripe


    2. If you look at it from his personel perspective....he played a blinder....lined his pockets, made more than enough to live a very comfortably for the rest of his life and got a huge pension out of it....all whilst doing sweet FA for what he was being paid for.


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  • #4687
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,642 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Irishmale0399 wrote: »
    Depends on how you look at it.....
    1. If you look at it from the perspective of the FAI..he was tripe


    2. If you look at it from his personel perspective....he played a blinder....lined his pockets, made more than enough to live a very comfortably for the rest of his life and got a huge pension out of it....all whilst doing sweet FA for what he was being paid for.

    And this sums him up nicely, he was only ever in it for one thing and he got it in bucketloads. He was a terrible administrator for football with a pile of lackeys around him and fools like HR in Kerry kissing his ass looking for some of the gravy to drip their way.


  • #4688
    u140acro3xs7dm
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭u140acro3xs7dm


    Irishmale0399 wrote: »
    Depends on how you look at it.....
    1. If you look at it from the perspective of the FAI..he was tripe


    2. If you look at it from his personel perspective....he played a blinder....lined his pockets, made more than enough to live a very comfortably for the rest of his life and got a huge pension out of it....all whilst doing sweet FA for what he was being paid for.

    He clearly looked after himself, but surely he didn't take the millions in grants and handouts that the FAI was given.


  • #4689
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    salmocab wrote: »
    And this sums him up nicely, he was only ever in it for one thing and he got it in bucketloads. He was a terrible administrator for football with a pile of lackeys around him and fools like HR in Kerry kissing his ass looking for some of the gravy to drip their way.


    Everyone who supported him got a ride on the gravy train...one way or the other.

    Jad Small Birdseed wrote: »
    He clearly looked after himself, but surely he didn't take the millions in grants and handouts that the FAI was given.


    He paid himself and his backers millions from money, which should have been invested in LOI or grassroots, hidden behind pensions, expenses, consultants fees etc.. He only gave to grassroots when he needed to keep them on side, looked after all his mates in politics and football to keep himself in a seat and did nothing for anyone who questioned his power or way of working. Kim dong D style...if you dont support me you will go hungry and die slowly.


  • #4690
    shanec1928
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,220 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    https://www.the42.ie/champagne-football-book-rise-fall-john-delaney-fai-5089244-May2020/


  • #4691
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,722 ✭✭✭✭josip


    sugarman wrote: »
    I doubt that'll see the light of day, he'll fight it tooth and nail.


    He'll have to be careful of the Streisand effect if he does.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect


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  • #4692
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    While it might be nice to have the whole story in one place, is there going to be anything in this book that we haven’t already heard?


  • #4693
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    sugarman wrote: »
    I doubt that'll see the light of day, he'll fight it tooth and nail.

    I suspect Penguins solicitors will look at it first and as long as the journos stick with the facts there might be little to sue over. He got burned last time he brought proceedings to prevent publication, and his misplaced confidence put a sports story onto the front page.


  • #4694
    tapfit2004
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭tapfit2004


    https://twitter.com/JohnDelaneyEVP/status/1256307297862602752?s=08


  • #4695
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    josip wrote: »
    He'll have to be careful of the Streisand effect if he does.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

    Again..:)


  • #4696
    howiya
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭howiya


    jack presley wrote: »
    While it might be nice to have the whole story in one place, is there going to be anything in this book that we haven’t already heard?

    The authors were asked that on twitter yesterday and said there was plenty of new stuff.

    Some of the replies on twitter were odd. People saying they'd only buy it if JD wasn't benefitting from the book. How did they ever come to thinking JD might make money out of it?

    I'll buy it when it comes out. Haven't preordered it as I'd rather buy it from a smaller bookshop. Seems to only be available on amazon and easons at the minute


  • #4697
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,633 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    howiya wrote: »
    The authors were asked that on twitter yesterday and said there was plenty of new stuff.

    Some of the replies on twitter were odd. People saying they'd only buy it if JD wasn't benefitting from the book. How did they ever come to thinking JD might make money out of it?

    I'll buy it when it comes out. Haven't preordered it as I'd rather buy it from a smaller bookshop. Seems to only be available on amazon and easons at the minute

    Some people are nuts !

    Id say every shop will have it ,only the big sellers would have pre order up this far in advance.


  • #4698
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    Any truth in the rumour that JD is working in London for an investor of a Dublin based LOI club???


  • #4699
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,207 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Irishmale0399 wrote: »
    Any truth in the rumour that JD is working in London for an investor of a Dublin based LOI club???

    No one knows what he is at.
    He should have an ankle bracelet on him.


  • #4700
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,722 ✭✭✭✭josip


    kippy wrote: »
    No one knows what he is at.
    He should have an ankle bracelet on him.


    Yes, preferably around his neck.


  • #4701
    Gael85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Gael85


    https://mobile.twitter.com/McDonnellDan/status/1267507561978363907


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  • #4702
    Liberta Per Gli Ultra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Liberta Per Gli Ultra


    FIFA and UEFA told some FAI Council members claim to have 'concerns' over direction association is going (Mirror)


  • #4703
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    Wonder did the same man named in both articles (his email address is public, quick google search) write such letters when JD was in power??? Was he bothered when the FAI was spending €3k per month for JDs rent, was he worried when JD was using the FAI credit card for private use, when questions were forbidden at the AGM, when journalists were barred....was he worried when the FAI were holding monies owed to LOI clubs???

    Only worried about his own interests and cant see the big problem....the very problem of Irish football.


  • #4704
    Liberta Per Gli Ultra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Liberta Per Gli Ultra


    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/fai-council-member-raises-concerns-about-governance-of-organisation-1.4268083
    All of the concerns are expressed, he says at some length, in the context of the Governance Review Group’s recommendations, quite a few of which, it seems, the current leadership of the association are intent on discarding less than a year after they were approved following a lengthy process of persuasion.

    That's hardly a surprise given that Quinn and his "Visionary Group" openly criticised the Governance Review and said they had no interest in getting involved with the "same old" FAI, before they took over the FAI a few months later and created a fake position for Quinn. Delaney eat your heart out.


  • #4705
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Irishmale0399 wrote: »
    Wonder did the same man named in both articles (his email address is public, quick google search) write such letters when JD was in power??? Was he bothered when the FAI was spending €3k per month for JDs rent, was he worried when JD was using the FAI credit card for private use, when questions were forbidden at the AGM, when journalists were barred....was he worried when the FAI were holding monies owed to LOI clubs???

    Only worried about his own interests and cant see the big problem....the very problem of Irish football.

    Does it matter really if he did? It his concerns are valid, and I haven't read enough to know whether or not they are, then his previous (in)actions don't make them any less valid.


  • #4706
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    Does it matter really if he did? It his concerns are valid, and I haven't read enough to know whether or not they are, then his previous (in)actions don't make them any less valid.

    It is the old guard not wanting to pass the power to the new guard.

    He is mates with Donal Conway, Paraic Treanor and Noel Fitzroy. Says it all!

    Wonder how many free tickets and trips he got over the years and now he's not happy its all ending


  • #4707
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    It is the old guard not wanting to pass the power to the new guard.

    He is mates with Donal Conway, Paraic Treanor and Noel Fitzroy. Says it all!

    Wonder how many free tickets and trips he got over the years and now he's not happy its all ending

    And you may or may not be right on that. But you are assuming what his motivation is and attacking the messenger rather than his message.

    I'm sure you're probably more in the know than me. Is there any validity in the concerns he's outlined?


  • #4708
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    And you may or may not be right on that. But you are assuming what his motivation is and attacking the messenger rather than his message.

    I'm sure you're probably more in the know than me. Is there any validity in the concerns he's outlined?

    Anyone on the Council and sat idly by while the FAI was run into the ground is, by definition, unsuitable to remain on grounds of competence and credibility.


  • #4709
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,642 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    dundalkfc10 wrote: »
    Anyone on the Council and sat idly by while the FAI was run into the ground is, by definition, unsuitable to remain on grounds of competence and credibility.

    Whilst I’d agree with this Dean has a point, his complaint shouldn’t be dismissed because of his past. That organisation needs to be kept under a close watch regardless of who is at the top now.


  • #4710
    Irishmale0399
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭Irishmale0399


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    Does it matter really if he did? It his concerns are valid, and I haven't read enough to know whether or not they are, then his previous (in)actions don't make them any less valid.


    He sat on a board which was in place to get the best deal for schoolboys football. He didnt say anything when JD was handing out the odd €5k here there and everywhere to keep his power. Now there is a board infront of him who clearly see LOI as being important, who will not pump money for votes and he writes to FIFA...he is worried his gravy train is running dry.

    DeanAustin wrote: »
    And you may or may not be right on that. But you are assuming what his motivation is and attacking the messenger rather than his message.

    I'm sure you're probably more in the know than me. Is there any validity in the concerns he's outlined?


    Of course there is something in the validity of which he has written. The FAI will no longer be handing out €5K to every Tom, Dick and Harry to keep them happy. The new board seem to be looking at a policy of national team, LOI and then the rest....which puts professional football where it should be in the big picture. LOI has suffered and been starved because of men like him......now he is panicing because he will lose power, plain and simple.

    salmocab wrote: »
    Whilst I’d agree with this Dean has a point, his complaint shouldn’t be dismissed because of his past. That organisation needs to be kept under a close watch regardless of who is at the top now.


    The FAI is under very close watch, both externally and internally. For the first time there is a policy in place where LOI clubs are getting answers, transparency is slowly coming through and solidish plans are being made for the long term. Schoolboys football will no longer be the centre of attention...it will be a level or two below LOI, supplying a (semi) prosfessional league with players. This is how it should have been all along, however with (cheap €€) schoolboys votes JD kept power, so they got a better deal and power. Had this man been shouting over the last 3,5 or 10 years I would accept it may be for the goodness of football in general, however the timing stinks of....Sh1te....we are not going to get the same deal as the past....so lets try and discredit the new system.


    Add to this, the named person is very friendly with members of the old board and you maywell see an attempt to win back power.


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  • #4711
    Liberta Per Gli Ultra
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    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0603/1145226-fai-remain-committed-to-restructuring-plans/
    Regarding the selection of Roy Barrett as Independent Chairperson, RTÉ News understands that his name wasn’t on the original shortlist drawn up by recruitment firm AMROP.


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