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Covid19 Part XVIII-25,473 in ROI(1,736 deaths) 5,760 in NI (551 deaths)(30/06)Read OP

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  • #32
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    How's that Russian reformation going?


  • #33
    Jim_Hodge
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    A piece by George Lee on why inter-country comparisons are pointless.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0529/1143301-covid-19-statistics/


  • #34
    is_that_so
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    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    A piece by George Lee on why inter-country comparisons are pointless.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0529/1143301-covid-19-statistics/
    As has been said more than once, apples and oranges comparisons. He's fine when he does this. It's the breathless instant stuff that he falls down on!


  • #35
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    is_that_so wrote: »
    As has been said more than once, apples and oranges comparisons. He's fine when he does this. It's the breathless instant stuff that he falls down on!

    I didn't post it as a comment on George Lee but a piece on the folly of comparing countries.

    :rolleyes:

    The constant negativity and complaining on this/these thread(s) has it ruined.


  • #36
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,139 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    Last time there was a crisis like this they demolished a Lidl in Tallaght so I guess it's just a matter of time.

    We’re 11 weeks into this one and coming out the other side, and there hasn’t been looting, pillaging or Lidl-demolishing. If society is going to collapse because of this, they’d better hurry up.


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  • #37
    silverharp
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    sheepsh4gger wrote: »

    and they say there is no reason to hit a woman :pac:

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #38
    growleaves
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    Washington officials admit to counting gunshot victims as COVID-19 deaths
    Washington epidemiologists have admitted that multiple victims of gunshot wounds who had also been diagnosed with coronavirus have been counted as COVID-19 deaths, although they say deaths from the virus are still likely being undercounted in the state.


  • #39
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    I didn't post it as a comment on George Lee but a piece on the folly of comparing countries.

    :rolleyes:

    The constant negativity and complaining on this/these thread(s) has it ruined.
    I see you need a coffee and maybe a couple of hours more sleep.


  • #40
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1266267414506770438


  • #41
    Jim_Hodge
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    is_that_so wrote: »
    I see you need a coffee and maybe a couple of hours more sleep.

    Bright and breezy here. Why use a post just to get a dig at the reporter rather than the content?

    I suspect it's yourself that needs a break.


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  • #42
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Bright and breezy here. Why use a post just to get a dig at the reporter rather than the content?

    I suspect it's yourself that needs a break.
    Me? Nah, not a bother. You dived down this rabbit hole. I guess we are always learning and lesson learnt here!


  • #43
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1266265084143087628?fbclid=IwAR3DKFErJuvw20mn_Co9Fb4DMWrF0h_0_hWSvxyc99QpgL0sh0UcaqLTyL4


  • #44
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,651 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Me? Nah, not a bother. You dived down this rabbit hole. I guess we are always learning and lesson learnt here!

    Not a clue what you're on about. You wanted to get a dig at a reporter, I was interested in the content of the report.

    Job done.

    Good luck with the sniping.


  • #45
    mloc123
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    Are the HSE still buying 100 additional ventilators a week... Like they said they would 2 months ago? We must have almost 1000 now... For the 30-40 people that need one.


  • #46
    [Deleted User]
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    growleaves wrote: »
    Washington officials admit to counting gunshot victims as COVID-19 deaths

    You should really provide the link to the actual article that your clickbait one is doing a hatchet job on based on an anti union rw Christian foundation.

    http://komonews.com/news/local/state-epidemiologists-covid-19-related-deaths-likely-being-undercounted-in-wa

    "The problem with that is – not every person who gets COVID-19 and subsequently passes away dies because of COVID-19," said Maxford Nelsen, Freedom Foundation.

    Governor Jay Inslee reacted to the report on Monday.

    "I have no reason to doubt the fatality numbers we’re using in the state of Washington right now," Inslee said Monday.

    "The problem is you got some people out there who are fanning these conspiracy claims from the planet Pluto. And it’s just disgusting what they’re trying to say of all these crazy deep-state malarkey...."


  • #47
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Shocking news.
    Ryanair isn't refunding people who really need the money.

    They are so clever though hiding behind staffing. It's not like they could automate payment processing? They take your money fairly handy. Hope the UK regulator throws the book at them.

    Also explains the need to go against public health measures to continue to extend and pretend.
    Some 84% have not had their money returned and only 5% received a refund within the legal time limit for European Union carriers of seven days, the poll by consumer group Which? indicated.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0528/1143135-84-of-ryanair-customers-await-cancelled-flight-refund/


  • #48
    growleaves
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    Washington state’s actual coronavirus death toll may be higher than current tallies, health officials say
    SEATTLE — The state Department of Health is investigating whether thousands of deaths in Washington from respiratory illnesses were due to undiagnosed COVID-19, health officials said Thursday.
    Some COVID-19 deaths were easier to confirm. They included people who were already in the system after testing positive for the virus, she said.

    They’ve also identified about 100 deaths that are not linked to a positive case, but “we can’t rule them in or out,” Hutchinson said. About five cases involved COVID-positive people whose deaths involved gunshot wounds, she said.

    “Our current dashboard reflects anyone who died, that tested positive for COVID, irrespective of cause of death,” she said.


  • #49
    owlbethere
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    wadacrack wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1266265084143087628?fbclid=IwAR3DKFErJuvw20mn_Co9Fb4DMWrF0h_0_hWSvxyc99QpgL0sh0UcaqLTyL4

    I don't study science or medical reports or studies. I had a quick look at that paper and I don't see anything about the ages of the participants or those people studied for this. I'm talking more so for the second group of people referred to. The 18 people where 50% had immunity for this Sars 2 even though they had no exposure to the original Sars. If we knew their ages we could know more. Like young adults of age 17 or 18 years would have been babies at the time of the original Sars. So they might have immunity from breast milk as an example.

    I would love the same type of study done here to see what they find.

    We can't go forward coming out from lockdown thinking 50% of people in Singapore have immunity to this covid19 and its only a small study too of 18 people. It will more than likely lead to people taking more risks thinking they are immune.


  • #50
    US2
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    So someone shot dead who happened to have covid will go down as a covid death ?


  • #51
    growleaves
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    "I have no reason to doubt the fatality numbers we’re using in the state of Washington right now," Inslee said Monday.

    "The problem is you got some people out there who are fanning these conspiracy claims from the planet Pluto. And it’s just disgusting what they’re trying to say of all these crazy deep-state malarkey...."

    Relevance? The report that COVID-positive people whose deaths involved gunshot wounds were counted as Covid deaths is factual.


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  • #52
    ACitizenErased
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    “Half of the cases emerging now are contacts of known cases, for example in households”

    Professor Nolan said this this morning on Morning Ireland.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0529/1143329-coronavirus-covid19/


  • #53
    johnnyskeleton
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    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    I wonder if they will revise the reopening schedule by a month. There are businesses that only make their money in the summer.
    Considering the 3rd world healthcare system they might need to stick to it though.

    Like in Jaws when the Mayor wouldn't close the beach?


  • #54
    growleaves
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    'Related to obvious other causes': Gunshot victims included in Washington coronavirus death tally
    Officials in Washington have admitted that gunshot victims are included in the coronavirus death count.

    The state's Department of Health reported about 100 cases of people with the coronavirus or “probable” cases of the COVID-19 virus who died and were included in the total tally of deaths attributed to the pandemic, but officials can’t trace how the patient contracted the virus.
    “Our dashboard numbers do include any death to a person that has tested positive to COVID-9,” Hutchison said.

    Local outlets in the area have reported the numbers then include people who tested positive for the virus but died from other causes, such as gunshot wounds.

    “We currently do have some deaths that are being reported that are clearly from other causes,” Hutchison added. “We have about five deaths, less than five deaths, that we know of that are related to obvious other causes. In this case, they are from gunshot wounds.”
    Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee has called the findings “dangerous,” “disgusting,” and “malarkey.”


  • #55
    Plumbthedepths
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    growleaves wrote: »
    Relevance? The report that COVID-positive people whose deaths involved gunshot wounds were counted as Covid deaths is factual.

    That's unbelievable.


  • #56
    [Deleted User]
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    US2 wrote: »
    So someone shot dead who happened to have covid will go down as a covid death ?

    Nope but that's what some people would like you to think for some strange reason.

    http://komonews.com/news/local/state-epidemiologists-covid-19-related-deaths-likely-being-undercounted-in-wa

    The state’s current COVID-19 death count includes anyone that’s tested positive for COVID-19, officials said.

    "We currently do have some deaths that are being reported that are clearly from other causes. We have about 5 deaths less than 5 deaths that we know of that are related to obvious other causes. In this case, they are from gunshot wounds," Hutchison said.

    Those cases are currently included in the state's COVID-19 death count, Hutchison said. But the number will be adjusted.


  • #57
    Akrasia
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    US2 wrote: »
    So someone shot dead who happened to have covid will go down as a covid death ?

    We’re talking about a relatively tiny number of people here, in the US more than a hundred thousand people have died with Covid 19
    If a hundred of those people were also gunshot victims it’s .1% of the total

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #58
    owlbethere
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    “Half of the cases emerging now are contacts of known cases, for example in households”

    Professor Nolan said this this morning on Morning Ireland.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0529/1143329-coronavirus-covid19/

    'Half of the cases now emerging are from known contacts'.

    Where are the other half coming from?


  • #59
    Plumbthedepths
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    I posted this not because of the schools issue but further into the article it states a private Limerick hospital with no inpatients yet Simon claimed was at 30% capacity.


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/joe-mchugh-schools-may-not-return-in-september-1002345.html


  • #60
    yourdeadwright
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    Is anyone staying with there 5k limit now ?
    By the looks of Instagram and other social media platforms the vast majority are going well beyond 5k ,


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  • #61
    growleaves
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    The 2006 Origins of the Lockdown Idea
    There are no historical observations or scientific studies that support the confinement by quarantine of groups of possibly infected people for extended periods in order to slow the spread of influenza. … It is difficult to identify circumstances in the past half-century when large-scale quarantine has been effectively used in the control of any disease. The negative consequences of large-scale quarantine are so extreme (forced confinement of sick people with the well; complete restriction of movement of large populations; difficulty in getting critical supplies, medicines, and food to people inside the quarantine zone) that this mitigation measure should be eliminated from serious consideration…

    Home quarantine also raises ethical questions. Implementation of home quarantine could result in healthy, uninfected people being placed at risk of infection from sick household members. Practices to reduce the chance of transmission (hand-washing, maintaining a distance of 3 feet from infected people, etc.) could be recommended, but a policy imposing home quarantine would preclude, for example, sending healthy children to stay with relatives when a family member becomes ill. Such a policy would also be particularly hard on and dangerous to people living in close quarters, where the risk of infection would be heightened….


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