Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - Read OP for Mod Warnings

alta stare · 23-05-2020 10:13AM

the kelt wrote: »

Seen this morning that Wexford General hospital is now Covid free.

In going to head off this morning for my Saturday morning run and will be at certain stages of the run further than 5 k from my house, effectively breaking the law and essentially worse than hitler according to some on here.

I use the mountain bike trails in my local forest for my run so literally meet no one as any mountain bikers up there use the newer trails but again will be more than 5k from my house which is apparently not right.

Yet someone in Stephens green can stroll out as far as ucd and back coming in contact with hundreds of people but that’s alright!

Someone tell me again why we cannot treat certain areas of the country differently to others?

Dont believe for one minute that you are going to be arrested for going beyond 5k. Go for your run and enjoy it. There have been plenty of people parked up and gone off for a walk at the quarry and not a Gaurd to be seen. They haven't been in Barntown as much the past week. Anyway i have to do a good bit of driving myself and iv always been let through the checkpoints.

There is a forest 20k from me and iv gone there a few times. I come in to contact with no one during the drive or when out in the forest. No harm done yet you would swear im murdering people the way some on here go on when they read such things. You are spot on about those in urban areas mingling with each other yet we are being told not to go to a big empty beach or forest. It makes no sense and never really did from the get go.

The scary thing about these restrictions and lockdowns is how quickly people accepted it and adhered to it without question. The 2k 5k travel limits were always a rediculous thing.

23-05-2020 10:16AM

prunudo wrote: »

Possibly but no harm in asking and its more constructive than belittling a poster who asked for help because you've had opposing views throughout the thread.

Its probably better to write your own email to local Govt representatives and also Opposition members. Its better than a tempate or copy and paste, more authentic.

I mentioned the ridiculous 5km restriction, something no other EU country has, and this is only being lifted to 20k on 8th June which will be maintained until 20th July! This is insane and is the restriction that is affecting people the most. A lot of us cannot see anyone until after 20th July and have done this lockdown alone.

Also mentioned €350 Covid payment to part time students until August! Private hospitals lying empty, colossal rent being paid to them by HSE to lie empty (!) , operations cancelled and no cancer screening.

I mentioned the depression I am seeing and hearing from so many people, the feeling of no hope, no appreciation for what the Irish Citizens have done so far, no positivity...............nothing but more severe restrictions, finger wagging, frowns, "we need to do more" messages every day, now jail if you don't observe "mandatory quarantine" for 14 days when you fly to or from UK for business.......etc, etc. I said that the psychology of fear is taking over the threat of Covid. Fear is the name of the game as far as I can see.

If my email does nothing but get the worries about the restrictions off my chest and not just rant on Boards, then its a good thing.

road_high · 23-05-2020 10:18AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

I hope the Gardai detect you. Are you an expert? What makes you think that you know more than the experts? It’s people like you that ruin the ‘we are all in it together’ buzz for those of us that do listen to experts advice. I also hope a feeling of intense shame overwhelms you as you walk down that beach.

You hope the Gardai “catch” someone going for a walk on an isolated beach. Out of all this hysteria I’ve learned that a large cohort of Irish society is simply unable to critically analyse a situation. Freak is right

CruelSummer · 23-05-2020 10:19AM

newuser99999 wrote: »

I am going to walk on a beach 30km away from my house, where I won’t come into contact with anyone. The same amount of people I would come into contact with if I walked the roads near my house. An intense shame won’t overwhelm me at all, I’d come into more contact if I went to my local Aldi or tesco. Freak.

Enjoy the walk and using your common sense

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peasant · 23-05-2020 10:20AM

Just FYI ...

In Germany there are 50 people in quarantine after seven people got infected during a single restaurant visit.

Restrictions were eased there on the 11th of May

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/coronavirus-50-menschen-in-quarantaene-nach-ausbruch-in-niedersaechsischem-restaurant-a-aca463ed-16d9-4fa5-85c6-5aa8ec836fc4

This happened despite a hygiene and distancing protocol in place that the German restaurants association says makes infection impossible.

Paddygreen · 23-05-2020 10:21AM

newuser99999 wrote: »

I am going to walk on a beach 30km away from my house, where I won’t come into contact with anyone. The same amount of people I would come into contact with if I walked the roads near my house. An intense shame won’t overwhelm me at all, I’d come into more contact if I went to my local Aldi or tesco. Freak.

Our experts and administrators wouldn’t have created silly pointless rules. There are good reasons why you were told to stay within 5km of your house. People are much more likely to cough or sneeze when they think nobody is looking, on a beach for example. What do you need to go there for anyway, the view is it? I am sure there are plenty places to walk within your own exercise circle. Think about it son before you do something stupid. You might think you are edgy and cool for disobeying the rules but the reality it is antisocial behaviour.

newuser99999 · 23-05-2020 10:26AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Our experts and administrators wouldn’t have created silly pointless rules. There are good reasons why you were told to stay within 5km of your house. People are much more likely to cough or sneeze when they think nobody is looking, on a beach for example. What do you need to go there for anyway, the view is it? I am sure there are plenty places to walk within your own exercise circle. Think about it son before you do something stupid. You might think you are edgy and cool for disobeying the rules but the reality it is antisocial behaviour.

So people could cough or sneeze on a beach just like they could on the boreen by my house. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. The beach is massive as is the car park, I won’t come near anyone else thanks for your concern. Keep wearing your masks and gloves while you’re driving, that makes an awful lot of sense.

silverharp · 23-05-2020 10:26AM

peasant wrote: »

Just FYI ...

In Germany there are 50 people in quarantine after seven people got infected during a single restaurant visit.

Restrictions were eased there on the 11th of May

https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/coronavirus-50-menschen-in-quarantaene-nach-ausbruch-in-niedersaechsischem-restaurant-a-aca463ed-16d9-4fa5-85c6-5aa8ec836fc4

This happened despite a hygiene and distancing protocol in place that the German restaurants association says makes infection impossible.

Common sense would say once its an inside space you dont want to be in an enclosed space with lots of people talking.
Restaurants need to be outside or open fronted at a minimum

23-05-2020 10:27AM

newuser99999 wrote: »

I am going to walk on a beach 30km away from my house, where I won’t come into contact with anyone. The same amount of people I would come into contact with if I walked the roads near my house. An intense shame won’t overwhelm me at all, I’d come into more contact if I went to my local Aldi or tesco. Freak.

Jaysus I remember why I ignore all these covid threads

VonLuck · 23-05-2020 10:28AM

the kelt wrote: »

Someone tell me again why we cannot treat certain areas of the country differently to others?

Because it's harder to implement, cause confusion and would cause divide between people.

Imagine telling someone just on the Dublin side of the border that you can only travel 5km and then on the other side of the border in Meath they could go 20km. Someone theoretically travel further into Dublin than someone in Dublin could travel.

You would have to start creating loads of little rules and would become a muddled mess. It's simpler just to have a nation wide restriction and hope that people would use common sense. Most people would not judge someone going for a 20km hike in the countryside.

retro:electro · 23-05-2020 10:31AM

Really good news about Galway ICU’s

https://connachttribune.ie/galway-icu-has-100-covid-19-survival-rate/amp/

23-05-2020 10:31AM

newuser99999 wrote: »

I’ll be driving 30km to walk on the beach in Mayo where I won’t come into contact with anyone can’t wait. These restrictions are nonsense.

I went to a quiet and deserted beach yesterday, windswept and wild, its about 10km from my house. My local beach is now much busier and cars everywhere since 2km was relaxed , and this is understandable. I prefer quieter places.

I put up a few photos of the waves on FBook as the waves were spectacular.
Immediately got a comment about "you were outside your 5km" weren't you! :rolleyes::rolleyes:
I live alone, drive my car alone, walk alone on a deserted beach, deliberately picked it because its so deserted....... yet the curtain twitchers who are too paralyzed by fear are on the phone to the Gardai!

If people are too afraid to go out that's fine but at this stage please mind your own business. I don't understand people queueing for hours in their pyjamas for a Big Mac but that's their business and I don't feel the need to comment here or anywhere else about it. There are far too many self rightous busy bodies about. At this stage I understand completely people's frustration, and if they want to go for a run, a cycle, a hike, a burger, a swim at the 40 foot, go outside their pathethic 5km , I applaud them. England, Northern Ireland and none of Europe have a 5km rule. They are free to go where they want to exercise, they are being treated like adults, not kids .
We have done this for 10 weeks and have ticked every single box we were asked to tick.

Stark · 23-05-2020 10:31AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Our experts and administrators wouldn’t have created silly pointless rules. There are good reasons why you were told to stay within 5km of your house. People are much more likely to cough or sneeze when they think nobody is looking, on a beach for example. What do you need to go there for anyway, the view is it? I am sure there are plenty places to walk within your own exercise circle. Think about it son before you do something stupid. You might think you are edgy and cool for disobeying the rules but the reality it is antisocial behaviour.

The comments here get more and more retarded. Yes of course it's more acceptable to cough and sneeze outdoors with no-one around you than with people around.

Maybe they should also ban people from their bedrooms in case they cough/sneeze there when no-one's looking :rolleyes:

"Don't go anywhere isolated, you might sneeze or cough", jasus.

JMNolan · 23-05-2020 10:32AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Jaysus I remember why I ignore all these covid threads

Probably best you do, you seem a nervous sort

Paddygreen · 23-05-2020 10:33AM

newuser99999 wrote: »

So people could cough or sneeze on a beach just like they could on the boreen by my house. Six of one, half a dozen of the other. The beach is massive as is the car park, I won’t come near anyone else thanks for your concern. Keep wearing your masks and gloves while you’re driving, that makes an awful lot of sense.

Studies have shown you are less likely to cough on your doorstep amigo. You wouldn’t want your neighbors thinking you have the virus. Caution gets thrown to the wind when you think you are anonymously coughing.

Rodin · 23-05-2020 10:43AM

talla10 wrote: »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/20/sweden-becomes-country-highest-coronavirus-death-rate-per-capita/

That all-important "in the last 7 days" was omitted by you....

alta stare · 23-05-2020 10:46AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

Studies have shown you are less likely to cough on your doorstep amigo. You wouldn’t want your neighbors thinking you have the virus. Caution gets thrown to the wind when you think you are anonymously coughing.

So we cant cough now for fear our neighbours will think we have a virus??

You have a strange view of things. I think out of anyone it is you who needs to go out to a secluded beach and get some clean healthy invigorating fresh air...trust me it will clear out that brain of yours of all this covid19 bullsh!t.

Rodin · 23-05-2020 10:47AM

the kelt wrote: »

Seen this morning that Wexford General hospital is now Covid free.

In going to head off this morning for my Saturday morning run and will be at certain stages of the run further than 5 k from my house, effectively breaking the law and essentially worse than hitler according to some on here.

I use the mountain bike trails in my local forest for my run so literally meet no one as any mountain bikers up there use the newer trails but again will be more than 5k from my house which is apparently not right.

Yet someone in Stephens green can stroll out as far as ucd and back coming in contact with hundreds of people but that’s alright!

Someone tell me again why we cannot treat certain areas of the country differently to others?

If you get stopped just telling them you're raising money for SVP.
It worked for cross-country travelling Daniel O'Donnell

NegativeCreep · 23-05-2020 10:49AM

PaddyGreen is a joke account lads :pac: Pretty funny too.

ChelseaRentBoy · 23-05-2020 10:52AM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

37 posts per day, 2044 thanks from 500 posts.

Damn I actually feel much better now thanks

Thank you for your encouragement, check out my above posts about pubs being able to operate during lockdown.

I just think it's hilarious you'd attempt to lecture another poster about "getting a life" when you've that many posts in a short space of time. You need to get some air.

Boasting about the amount of thanks

I'll leave you to it. Enjoy the echo chamber.

alta stare · 23-05-2020 10:53AM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

PaddyGreen is a joke account lads :pac: Pretty funny too.

Ordinarily that would be the view alright but I'm afraid there are so many people out there just like him. It is scary the mentality of some people.

ZX7R · 23-05-2020 10:53AM

silverharp wrote: »

Common sense would say once its an inside space you dont want to be in an enclosed space with lots of people talking.
Restaurants need to be outside or open fronted at a minimum

Common sense is that proper contact tracing work's
7 confirmed cases all related to one another.
The other 43 were considered close contacts so we're asked to self isolate.
This is what people need to realize that we are going to have to live along with the virus

Pigeon Chaser · 23-05-2020 11:03AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I put up a few photos of the waves on FBook as the waves were spectacular.
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Why did you do this?

mr zulu · 23-05-2020 11:07AM

Leo says no change to 2 meter rule, what a surprise.

Idbatterim · 23-05-2020 11:09AM

There are a handful of deaths a day now. Surprised the media arent scaremongering with the daily cancer death figures, reduce stress, eat healthier, stop smoking and we can bring the cancer figures down too...

Lads of you never left your houses , there would be less chance of you dying early...

stephenjmcd · 23-05-2020 11:09AM

mr zulu wrote: »

Leo says no change to 2 meter rule, what a surprise.

No he says public health advice hasn't changed regarding it which it hasn't. Cabinet to meet CMO next week should a suitable time be found for all.

prunudo · 23-05-2020 11:12AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No he says public health advice hasn't changed regarding it which it hasn't. Cabinet to meet CMO next week should a suitable time be found for all.

As someone said earlier in the thread, when it suits their agenda they will change the rules.

Idbatterim · 23-05-2020 11:13AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No he says public health advice hasn't changed regarding it which it hasn't. Cabinet to meet CMO next week should a suitable time be found for all.

Public heaory dvuxe in this banana republic he means? Because the germans and many other countries allowing smaller distances

Galwayguy35 · 23-05-2020 11:14AM

mr zulu wrote: »

Leo says no change to 2 meter rule, what a surprise.

I think it's time both Varadkar and Harris were self isolated at this stage.

12 years ago FF ran the country into the ground but these two seem hellbent on leading us down the same road.

stephenjmcd · 23-05-2020 11:14AM

prunudo wrote: »

As someone said earlier in the thread, when it suits their agenda they will change the rules.

Yup 100%, I'd be surprised if a new government didn't make a few changes

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