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  • #3602
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    maxamillius wrote: »
    So you plan on connecting then using power line adaptors?

    They are mesh Wi-Fi with power line as a backup, so in my house I have block walls and even with triband some rooms are struggling so the power line will boost the performance


  • #3603
    DFS UTD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭DFS UTD


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    They are mesh Wi-Fi with power line as a backup, so in my house I have block walls and even with triband some rooms are struggling so the power line will boost the performance

    Do you just replace the tp-link powerline adaptor with these. I.e. do they directly plug into the wall, or does the powerline functionality still work even if plugged in with the enclosed lead and plug. I've a big issue with my wifi keeping dropping. I'm wondering if this would be a solution. Also I've a number of devices IP cameras etc which only work on 2.4ghz - does this do both 5ghz and 2.4ghz.

    sorry for all the questions but I'm not tech savvy, and really frustrated with my wifi in the house at the moment.


  • #3604
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    DFS UTD wrote: »
    Do you just replace the tp-link powerline adaptor with these. I.e. do they directly plug into the wall, or does the powerline functionality still work even if plugged in with the enclosed lead and plug. I've a big issue with my wifi keeping dropping. I'm wondering if this would be a solution. Also I've a number of devices IP cameras etc which only work on 2.4ghz - does this do both 5ghz and 2.4ghz.

    sorry for all the questions but I'm not tech savvy, and really frustrated with my wifi in the house at the moment.


    You replace the TP-Link with these.


    So a standard mesh is tri or dual band. Dual Band is 2.4Ghz/5Ghz and is entry mesh. Tri-band then has a separate 5Ghz wifi network for internode communication.


    Tri-band works good and I currently have them but the issue I have is block walls and a larg bungalow. So combination of powerline and mesh will give best of both worlds.


    The mesh increase range and performance. The Huawei has both 2.4Gha and 5Ghz


  • #3605
    liamog
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    So glad they introduced the new Nest Aware Plans. We swapped out the back garden camera for a Nest one to go with the doorbell. I switched over today, and will be gettting a €10 refund for apparently the same service as we had on one doorbell that now covers the doorbell and the garden. Thanks Clareman for the headsup


  • #3606
    maxamillius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭maxamillius


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You replace the TP-Link with these.


    So a standard mesh is tri or dual band. Dual Band is 2.4Ghz/5Ghz and is entry mesh. Tri-band then has a separate 5Ghz wifi network for internode communication.


    Tri-band works good and I currently have them but the issue I have is block walls and a larg bungalow. So combination of powerline and mesh will give best of both worlds.


    The mesh increase range and performance. The Huawei has both 2.4Gha and 5Ghz

    If I was to plug one of these into a socket in garden shed, would that improve signal in the garden?


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  • #3607
    DFS UTD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭DFS UTD


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    You replace the TP-Link with these.


    So a standard mesh is tri or dual band. Dual Band is 2.4Ghz/5Ghz and is entry mesh. Tri-band then has a separate 5Ghz wifi network for internode communication.


    Tri-band works good and I currently have them but the issue I have is block walls and a larg bungalow. So combination of powerline and mesh will give best of both worlds.


    The mesh increase range and performance. The Huawei has both 2.4Gha and 5Ghz

    Thanks for the advice - I must give them a try!


  • #3608
    BobbyT28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭BobbyT28


    liamog wrote: »
    So glad they introduced the new Nest Aware Plans. We swapped out the back garden camera for a Nest one to go with the doorbell. I switched over today, and will be gettting a €10 refund for apparently the same service as we had on one doorbell that now covers the doorbell and the garden. Thanks Clareman for the headsup

    Had the 5 day plan. Just changed it to the 30day one for the same price as I was paying. Brilliant.


  • #3609
    quiggs1000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭quiggs1000


    BobbyT28 wrote: »
    Had the 5 day plan. Just changed it to the 30day one for the same price as I was paying. Brilliant.

    Please be aware that the new 30 day plan doesn't include continuous recording. It now only records when it detects motion/sound/etc. You need to upgrade the 60 day plan for that. :(


  • #3610
    BobbyT28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭BobbyT28


    quiggs1000 wrote: »
    Please be aware that the new 30 day plan doesn't include continuous recording. It now only records when it detects motion/sound/etc. You need to upgrade the 60 day plan for that. :(

    Ah sh#%t balls!!! Didn't realise that!! Feck it anyway. I just got email about getting a prorated refund for last sub. If I upgrade to €100/yr will cause an issue with payment / refunds. Might try it for the year and see if I need it or just the 5day one.

    Might just go back to 5day one or can I??


  • #3611
    Kintarō Hattori
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,084 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    quiggs1000 wrote: »
    Please be aware that the new 30 day plan doesn't include continuous recording. It now only records when it detects motion/sound/etc. You need to upgrade the 60 day plan for that. :(

    Yeah I thought that sucked big time. The reason I went for Nest as opposed to Ring was because it had 24/7 recording so I had little choice but to upgrade to the more expensive option. It does now mean though that the Hub Max I have is covered and I have a cheap IP camera in the living room which I'll swap out to a Nest indoor at some point. Not having to pay a subscription for that is positive.


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  • #3612
    quiggs1000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭quiggs1000


    Yeah, that's a sneaky one by Google if you ask me. I made the same mistake and only found out later that it has this limitation.


  • #3613
    BobbyT28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭BobbyT28


    quiggs1000 wrote: »
    Yeah, that's a sneaky one by Google if you ask me. I made the same mistake and only found out later that it has this limitation.

    Yeah makes more sense to just get 100euro sub and get outdoor camera as I am in the market for one anyway. Sneaky, very Sneaky.

    Anyone using any outdoor nest aware Compatible cameras or can recommend any?


  • #3614
    Kintarō Hattori
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,084 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    BobbyT28 wrote: »
    Yeah makes more sense to just get 100euro sub and get outdoor camera as I am in the market for one anyway. Sneaky, very Sneaky.

    Anyone using any outdoor nest aware Compatible cameras or can recommend any?

    I have two for at least 18 months now, it could be longer. I have mixed feelings about them. When they work, they are brilliant and the 24/7 video won me over as I was having an issue with a neighbour at the time. However they have been equally frustrating. Let me outline below:

    I have one each front and back of the house. The router is in the living room and the camera is at the corner of the house- just under the gutter. I have a modest timber framed terraced house. In that sort of a situation it should work flawlessly but every now and again it used to lose signal to the router and you'd have to delete the camera and install it again. The app is frustrating in that you can't just change the Wi-Fi network.

    The camera at the rear of the house (77 sqm) refuses to work effectively unless there's an extender in the rear bedroom right by the camera. That's worked fine but like the front camera, occasionally it just seems to lose the connection and you have to delete and install it again. Lately though it just doesn't seem to like the extender anymore and I'll most likely get a Google Wi-Fi set-up to try and get it back on track.

    I have had at least one failure of either the camera or the power supply and it was replaced under warranty.

    Now as frustrating as it is, it's equally brilliant. The app is fantastic. It's so incredibly easy to use and when you throw in a Chromecast and a Hub Max it's a great little setup.

    Would I consider the outdoor camera's again knowing what I know now? I'd strongly look into what other options are available but if I had a Mesh system installed and thought that might fix the coverage issues then yes I'd try them again.


  • #3615
    quiggs1000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 ✭quiggs1000


    BobbyT28 wrote: »
    Anyone using any outdoor nest aware Compatible cameras or can recommend any?

    I have 2 outdoor Nest IQ Cameras and the doorbell. As Kintarō mentioned, when they work they are fantastic. The quality is brilliant, it even automatically zooms in on people when it's recording, and it does face detection. Great app too.

    The 2 drawbacks would be:

    1. Price. These things are expensive.
    2. Like was mentioned, I have had random dropouts, perhaps twice in 2 years, but each dropout lasted for about a week. Switching on/off did nothing. Then magically (both times) after about 2 weeks they came back online again.


  • #3616
    Clareman
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,053 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I have to say I've never had a problem with my Nest stuff, I've an IQ Camera, Doorbell, Max Hub and a few fire alarms, they are all brilliant, the 1 problem I had is I had the outdoor camera plugged in behind the washing machine and having to reboot it was a pain in the hole (I think after a software update), I just put it on a smart plug so I could restart it, of course I haven't had to use it since.


  • #3617
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Kintarō Hattori wrote: »
    The app is frustrating in that you can't just change the Wi-Fi network.

    Yes you can. I did it this week with my Nest Hello when I changed to Nest Wifi.
    if I had a Mesh system installed and thought that might fix the coverage issues then yes I'd try them again.

    I now have a mesh with Google Wifi. So far so good.

    I am considering getting a few cameras at the moment but would be concerned about investing in more subscription based cameras. This is why I am considering Hikvision.


  • #3618
    Kintarō Hattori
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,084 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    2011 wrote: »
    Yes you can. I did it this week with my Nest Hello when I changed to Nest Wifi.



    I now have a mesh with Google Wifi. So far so good.

    I am considering getting a few cameras at the moment but would be concerned about investing in more subscription based cameras. This is why I am considering Hikvision.

    I know it says 'Update' but it looks like you are essentially installing it again rather than just amending it.


  • #3619
    2011
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Kintarō Hattori wrote: »
    I know it says 'Update' but it looks like you are essentially installing it again rather than just amending it.

    It was quite a simple and quick exercise and all settings were retained so it has all of the hallmarks of an update.


  • #3620
    AngelaRI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,998 ✭✭✭AngelaRI


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Not specific to home automation but a mesh will certainly help with a connected house

    I have been buying and selling loads of mesh wifi trying to find the perfect one, in the end a powerline system seems best and came across these. This is a massive bargain as everywhere else they are 200+

    https://www.box.co.uk/Huawei-WiFi-Q2-Pro-Wi-Fi-System-(3-Pack)_2784181.html

    I ended up buying two sets for just a bit extra of the Tp-link equivalents

    Thank you, picked up a set myself, half the price that Amazon is currently listing, good deal! My ISP's router isn't great for the 5ghz band especially, and 5g not available upstairs at all so hopefully these will make a noticeable difference


  • #3621
    Kintarō Hattori
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,084 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Not specific to home automation but a mesh will certainly help with a connected house

    I have been buying and selling loads of mesh wifi trying to find the perfect one, in the end a powerline system seems best and came across these. This is a massive bargain as everywhere else they are 200+

    https://www.box.co.uk/Huawei-WiFi-Q2-Pro-Wi-Fi-System-(3-Pack)_2784181.html

    I ended up buying two sets for just a bit extra of the Tp-link equivalents

    I'm in two minds whether to go with this or Nest Wi-Fi to get coverage to a Nest outdoor camera at the back of the house. I know it's about €100 cheaper than Nest (if I got the router and a Wi-Fi point) but one part of me likes keeping everything Google. Whichever one I get would be used in conjunction with a Fritzbox.

    Any words of advice?


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  • #3622
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Kintarō Hattori wrote: »
    I'm in two minds whether to go with this or Nest Wi-Fi to get coverage to a Nest outdoor camera at the back of the house. I know it's about €100 cheaper than Nest (if I got the router and a Wi-Fi point) but one part of me likes keeping everything Google. Whichever one I get would be used in conjunction with a Fritzbox.

    Any words of advice?


    Nest is over priced, it is a dual band system and they are the cheapest available. Have a look at thread below. You are paying more money for a Nest system as a tri-band system. So more or less paying for the google name. Personally I prefer to pay for a better spec than a name





    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058072654


  • #3623
    Kintarō Hattori
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,084 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Nest is over priced, it is a dual band system and they are the cheapest available. Have a look at thread below. You are paying more money for a Nest system as a tri-band system. So more or less paying for the google name. Personally I prefer to pay for a better spec than a name





    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058072654

    Well I went with the Huawei set, hopefully it resolves the issue of the rear Nest Camera never staying connected.


  • #3624
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,955 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Kintarō Hattori wrote: »
    Well I went with the Huawei set, hopefully it resolves the issue of the rear Nest Camera never staying connected.


    Just set mine up, coverage in the house is excellent. Extremely easy to set up. Posted on the other thread. The app is very good but havent had a huge chance to look around in details but some nice features.


  • #3625
    creativedrinker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭creativedrinker


    Currys.co.uk currently have the Google home hub 7" for £69, you will need the likes of address pal for shipping


  • #3626
    andydurnin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭andydurnin


    Anyone know where I get a deal for Blink XT2? Looking first least 2 of them?


  • #3627
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,391 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    andydurnin wrote: »
    Anyone know where I get a deal for Blink XT2? Looking first least 2 of them?

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07M8PFCD9/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_5Q-XEbQGSX4T1

    25% off on Amazon at the moment.


  • #3628
    ablelocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,055 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    andydurnin wrote: »
    Anyone know where I get a deal for Blink XT2? Looking first least 2 of them?

    littlewoods have the one camera option on sale at €90 -not sure if that's good or not, spotted it on pricescanner today


  • #3629
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,391 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    John Lewis have the Ring Alarm Security System for £179 but they are also giving a free Ring Indoor Camera.

    https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ring-indoor-cam-smart-security-camera-with-built-in-wi-fi-white-ring-alarm-security-system-bundle-179-at-john-lewis-partners-3469892


  • #3630
    OU812
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,093 ✭✭✭OU812


    TitianGerm wrote: »
    John Lewis have the Ring Alarm Security System for £179 but they are also giving a free Ring Indoor Camera.

    https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ring-indoor-cam-smart-security-camera-with-built-in-wi-fi-white-ring-alarm-security-system-bundle-179-at-john-lewis-partners-3469892

    This is being sold off in the US also. New hardware coming, I'd say


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  • #3631
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I wouldn't touch anything Ring or Amazon branded... They literally sell your videos and personal information... Not potentially, not possibly, they actually do...


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