Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

CEX stores reopening

Seems everyone is looking for an excuse to reopen

Speak Now wrote: »

What's CEX?

A shop where you can buy or trade in second hand games, dvds etc.

I would have presumed they'd have already fallen under the list of businesses that are allowed to open in phase 1.

Not sure if this was mentioned in the briefing earlier? https://twitter.com/otuathail/status/1263552473807163392?s=19

billybonkers wrote: »

Where was Tony the last two nights?

He’s getting bored also

Posted this in the relaxation of restrictions thread but probably something for here also

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0521/1139906-coronavirus-active-cases/

1,807 people were considered 'active' as of Sunday night

Little further into the article
"Due to the course of the disease in people, only a percentage of the 1,807 could be considered to be potentially infectious.

People can typically only spread the disease between the third and eighth day of infection. The department considers cases to be 'active' for a minimum of 14 days."

New Home wrote: »

Just to nit-pick, 0% and 100% are both percentages.

Thank god someone else noticed that. When I read it earlier I felt like a right arsé but like... what the fúck? :rolleyes:

New Home wrote: »

Just to nit-pick, 0% and 100% are both percentages.

Yup my bad sorry didn't copy in the full quote with the days that a case is deemed infectious.

marno21 wrote: »

This is great news. Will be very useful in the game of whack-a-mole as we open up. If this is feasible then there's no reason for the 3 week breaks between phases. The virus is suppressed, the testing regime is now at the required level, international travel is being dealt with and people are now aware of the social distancing requirements.

I think the social distancing needs work especially when you're in a public place. People queue up outside a supermarket the on there's a crowd of them in a aisle. Not good enough and will be replicated in non essential locations.

An Australian-first study examining hundreds of children who were tested for COVID-19 after presenting to hospital with symptoms of the deadly disease has found less than 1 per cent of them had the virus.

Only four of the 434 children tested by the Royal Children's Hospital in Melbourne at the height of the coronavirus pandemic between March 21 and April 19 were diagnosed with COVID-19, researchers at the Murdoch Children's Research Institute have found

https://www.smh.com.au/national/australia-first-study-finds-low-transmission-of-covid-19-in-children-20200521-p54v4d.html

Strazdas wrote: »

I think the asymptomatic thing has probably been vastly overstated. There are definitely such people out there, but the idea that there are five or ten asymptomatic people for every symptomatic one is starting to look very far fetched.

Several European serology studies place it between 30 and 50%. The recent Czech study (30k samples) showed 28-37% asymptomatic.

Just to compare, seasonal influenza is estimated at 50-70% asymptomatic.

McGiver wrote: »

Several European serology studies place it between 30 and 50%. The recent Czech study (30k samples) showed 28-37% asymptomatic.

Just to compare, seasonal influenza is estimated at 50-70% asymptomatic.

Prof Nolan referred to these type of studies in his briefing tonight. He says he thinks they are highly suspect and are not to be trusted.

I think he has a point. What sort of a killer virus would show no symptoms whatsoever in most people it infects (and yet horrible and lethal symptoms in a small number of others)?

Something is wrong with those numbers coming back. Blood testing in Sweden indicates that Stockholm (the Covid hotspot in Scandinavia) has only 7% of people showing traces of Covid.

bb1234567 wrote: »

There is no guidebook or set rules on how a virus has to act. People have completely different reactions to it based on their age health and biology. I don't think it's unbelievable or suspect at all , many other diseases are extremely mild in some demographics while very dangerous to others, it's really nothing new

Prof Nolan said he simply doesn't believe the claim that for every one symptomatic person with Covid-19, there are five or ten more walking around with the virus completely unaware of the fact.

Something about these antibody tests suggesting half the population has contracted the virus just doesn't add up. The same figures for antibody tests seem to be all over the place from country to country to a crazy degree (the UK figures suggest that the rate of infection outside London is 5% at most)