Relaxation of Restrictions, Part III - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

road_high wrote: »

Can imagine. Wouldn’t fit the doom.
And of course we’d have very little herd immunity. We’ve been locked down for two months doing exactly what the “experts” wanted.
More of it over with Matt Cooper and another “new normal” monger. No escape from these head bangers is there?

Where is all the evidence of second waves coming from, its just so called experts throwing their opinion out. A second wave is not a given and if it happens we should worry about it when it comes. All they're doing now is spreading fear and making it sound like things are way worse now than they really are.
You know its bad when Alan Kelly and Sam McConkey are the ones talking sense.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Representative from IBEC just after being on Virgin media absolutely slated the reopening plan and the caretaker government. Haven't heard anyone from IBEC speaking that strongly before

representative from IBEC == Gemma bot?

Stark wrote: »

I was thinking, at least the lockdown saved the lives of some secondary students in Clondalkin who would have been hit by a helicopter door falling from the sky had they been in school.

#Covidgains !

Just looked at the Oxford professor’s video. Thanks for uploading it to this thread and saving me time looking for it.
For anyone that doesn’t have the 30 minutes plus to spare she made some interesting points:
1. Epidemic follows the same pattern in a lot of countries and dies out
2. Certain populations may be more vulnerable to the infection than others for various reasons - age, obesity, etc.
3. Lockdown weakens the immune system long term
4. The R0 isn’t an accurate measure of why we should keep restrictions, deaths and hospital capacity should be the measure.
5. Antibody testing is useful but tests are inaccurate to date.
6. Some people’s immune system seem to have resistance to the virus & they develop an innate response & dispose of it quickly. These people don’t develop antibodies. (She’s studying whether exposure to other coronaviruses can give some of this immunity)
7. Her own personal estimate of the death rate is 0.05%

She did say this was her theory, and that others out there will have different views and opinions.

road_high wrote: »

Anyone that doesn’t want to lockdown foreva is a Gemma bot now it seems

Who are these posters or people for that matter who want to lock down forever?

Tell us who they are. Show us the posts.

This is a load of nonsense. You are seeing things that don't exist.

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Essential no, a lot of what dentist do is routine and cosmetic, some of their work is essential but not all of it, and construction is the same, aspects of it are essential to survival, but not all of it.

Is someone’s house gets delayed in building for 3 months nobody will die. If someone’s doesn’t get braces until the end of the year it’s not curtains.

So essential no.

Dentists aren't essential?

https://www.facebook.com/81985202121/posts/10158562073187122/

People in the UK are piling out their own painful teeth with pliers in because they couldn't access a dentist...

road_high wrote: »

You’d think. But I’ve seen “we need to do this until a vaccine is found” too many times to count them all. Taken to its logical conclusion that does mean lockdown forever

Who has said that? I've never heard anyone say that and I'm about a dogged a defender of the lockdown as you'll get in here.

Leaving Cert is an absolute mess.

I remember my own time in school. The majority of teachers were counting the days to retirement with little motivation. You'd have more chance of picking an accurate grade out of a lucky bag than them getting it right. That and the fact every teacher has favoured students.

The easiest and fairest solution at this stage is to let it go ahead in its normal format. Community transmission is now almost 0.

At the very least it should have been opt in/opt out.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Leaving Cert is an absolute mess.

I remember my own time in school. The majority of teachers were counting the days to retirement with little motivation. You'd have more chance of picking an accurate grade out of a lucky bag than them getting it right. That and the fact every teacher has favoured students.

The easiest and fairest solution at this stage is to let it go ahead in its normal format. Community transmission is now almost 0.

At the very least it should have been opt in/opt out.

The headbangers ensured it would be cancelled. Killing grannies etc. Much more powerful than any logic

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I saw a poster say they wouldn’t send their kids back to school until a vaccine is found.

There was also a poster that said young people will have to give sex a miss until a vaccine is in place.

I don't think those views represent the views held by most people who believe that we shouldn't rush into lifting restrictions.

Deleted User wrote: »

I saw a poster say they wouldn’t send their kids back to school until a vaccine is found.

There was also a poster that said young people will have to give sex a miss until a vaccine is in place.

Sounds like posts designed to wind up if they exist. No one takes that stuff seriously.

And no one has called for 'lock down forever'.

Snugglebunnies wrote: »

Dentists aren't essential?

https://www.facebook.com/81985202121/posts/10158562073187122/

People in the UK are piling out their own painful teeth with pliers in because they couldn't access a dentist...

Did you miss the word “some”.

The new cases in Ireland grew by (0.31%) today
Deaths grew by (0.76%)

So the government are somehow going to keep trying to convince people "we aren't there yet" or "the worst is not over" to literally force people to remain inside while the virus transmission within the community is now non-existent.

How is this possible. Why should the economic and social suicide continue for this tiny growth rate which has been stable for two weeks now and is still very much in decline.