Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

amadangomor · 21-05-2020 12:40PM

US2 wrote: »

Some people are genuinely upset that this virus is burning out as fast as it came here.

Is there herd immunity to this tiresome makey uppy stuff you come up with?

stargazer 68 · 21-05-2020 12:41PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Just heard an ad on the radio with some voice actor telling us that people are eating more during the pandemic and they should try and stick to 3 meals a day. Gives a government website people can visit to get advice on eating.

What a nation of people we have become.

Heard that this morning! And of course the obligatory 'we are all in this together' - yeah some more than others!

ACitizenErased · 21-05-2020 12:41PM

49 in ICU as of this morning

Onesea · 21-05-2020 12:42PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Burning out implies dying away naturally, which there is no evidence of happening anywhere

This is prime example of a lockdown Larry.

amadangomor · 21-05-2020 12:45PM

Onesea wrote: »

This is prime example of a lockdown Larry.

What are you? A let them die Larry?

US2 · 21-05-2020 12:46PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Burning out implies dying away naturally, which there is no evidence of happening anywhere

Plenty countries out of lockdown nearly a month now and no real increases. Its burning out.

21-05-2020 12:47PM

Onesea wrote: »

This is prime example of a lockdown Larry.

This is a prime example of someone who cannot engage in a point actually being made, and instead resorts to glib insults.

Because I challenge your nonsensical points does not mean I believe in continued lockdown. We never had a lock down anyway compared to much of Europe where even leaving the house required a form

amadangomor · 21-05-2020 12:48PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/fergalbowers/status/1263433545059635201?s=21

Am I right in reading this that less than 2,500 people have been referred and tested in the last two days? That’s ridiculously low. We need to expand the case definition.

Widespread antibody testing would be a handy tool now. Any news on a reliable one being available?

petes · 21-05-2020 12:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

This is a prime example of someone who cannot engage in a point actually being made, and instead resorts to glib insults.

Because I challenge your nonsensical points does not mean I believe in continued lockdown. We never had a lock down anyway compared to much of Europe where even leaving the house required a form

You will never get a valid argument/discussion from that poster.

21-05-2020 12:50PM

US2 wrote: »

Plenty countries out of lockdown nearly a month now and no real increases. Its burning out.

Complete lack of any comprehension of what the measures set-out to achieve - "lockdown" - significantly reduced cases, "Social distancing" - maintains lower level as restrictions are eased

ACitizenErased · 21-05-2020 12:50PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Widespread antibody testing would be a handy tool now. Any news on a reliable one being available?

It’s starting here in June

is_that_so · 21-05-2020 12:52PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Widespread antibody testing would be a handy tool now. Any news on a reliable one being available?

They are finalising plans. Will be in June and random but not widespread.

Onesea · 21-05-2020 12:57PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is a prime example of someone who cannot engage in a point actually being made, and instead resorts to glib insults.

Because I challenge your nonsensical points does not mean I believe in continued lockdown. We never had a lock down anyway compared to much of Europe where even leaving the house required a form

You don't have to explain yourself.

21-05-2020 12:58PM

petes wrote: »

You will never get a valid argument/discussion from that poster.

But each post of theirs exposes the nonsense.
Two types of open it up now posters - the leave them die brigade and those who display critical thinking and bring up changeling and interesting points. Just like the there are two type of lock it down posters - the we are all going to die brigade, and the risk averse who don't wish to add unnecessary risk, but have put some genuine thought into it. Then there are us in the middle who see a process that is working, some of whom believe it could be opened faster, myself included, and some who believe we should remain cautious, some of whom think the actions already taken were too tough, some not tough enough.

amadangomor · 21-05-2020 01:00PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

It’s starting here in June

I was a suspected case. Severe respiratory symptoms but wasn't tested as it was the time the fever requirement came in.

Would be interesting if I could access an antibody test.

Gael23 · 21-05-2020 01:05PM

Criticism being levelled at Simon Harris this morning is uncalled for. He is high risk so he cannot attend a meeting in a setting where Covid 19 has been conformed

21-05-2020 01:05PM

amadangomor wrote: »

I was a suspected case. Severe respiratory symptoms but wasn't tested as it was the time the fever requirement came in.

Would be interesting if I could access an antibody test.

It would be great do know if those who suspected they had actually did. My own wife is convinced she had it in March also. However, I think the priority should be random testing first to gauge the full extent and spread. If candidates for testing self select, we may not the a clear picture of the extent. Once capacity is place we should test everyone who wishes to get tested though

Mic 1972 · 21-05-2020 01:06PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They are finalising plans. Will be in June and random but not widespread.

I'm really looking forward to that
Somewhere i read that Italy and Spain are at 20% of immunity which should slow down the next wave by a good bit, I wonder where we stand at the moment

US2 · 21-05-2020 01:08PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Complete lack of any comprehension of what the measures set-out to achieve - "lockdown" - significantly reduced cases, "Social distancing" - maintains lower level as restrictions are eased

Yes. The virus is starting to burn out as we are social distancing and better hygiene. No need of any lockdown anymore

21-05-2020 01:17PM

US2 wrote: »

Yes. The virus is starting to burn out as we are social distancing and better hygiene. No need of any lockdown anymore

I agree there is no need for lockdown anymore. I just take issue with the use of burn out which to me implies a natural decay of the virus. Suppression would be the term i'd use

davedanon · 21-05-2020 01:20PM

US2 wrote: »

Plenty countries out of lockdown nearly a month now and no real increases. Its burning out.

That's good enough for me, I'm convinced

polesheep · 21-05-2020 01:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I agree there is no need for lockdown anymore. I just take issue with the use of burn out which to me implies a natural decay of the virus. Suppression would be the term i'd use

Viruses do sometimes burn out. Here's one renowned physician who feels that Covid-19 could burn out. https://www.firstpost.com/health/coronavirus-could-burn-out-on-its-own-before-we-have-a-working-vaccine-former-who-chief-8387911.html

mr zulu · 21-05-2020 01:36PM

What are the odds of these restrictions ending quicker, my job is gone at the moment as I work in the tourism industry, really finding it hard as I feel this dragging out.

dundalkfc10 · 21-05-2020 01:36PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They are finalising plans. Will be in June and random but not widespread.

Would you trust them to have it in place for June?

Eod100 · 21-05-2020 01:54PM

Wonder is this a message to publicans and vitners? https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/businesses-warned-not-to-reopen-unless-allowed-to-do-so-under-covid-roadmap-39223702.html?__twitter_impression=true

is_that_so · 21-05-2020 01:59PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Would you trust them to have it in place for June?

Apparently they are choosing the best assay(test) over the next week so yes. De Gascun has been talking about it for a few weeks. 5,000 is very manageable and it is just sample and test it.

robbiezero · 21-05-2020 01:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

But each post of theirs exposes the nonsense.
Two types of open it up now posters - the leave them die brigade and those who display critical thinking and bring up changeling and interesting points. Just like the there are two type of lock it down posters - the we are all going to die brigade, and the risk averse who don't wish to add unnecessary risk, but have put some genuine thought into it. Then there are us in the middle who see a process that is working, some of whom believe it could be opened faster, myself included, and some who believe we should remain cautious, some of whom think the actions already taken were too tough, some not tough enough.

Welcome to Internet Forums

. The good and bad thing about them is that you usually get the full spectrum of opinion.

21-05-2020 02:00PM

polesheep wrote: »

Viruses do sometimes burn out. Here's one renowned physician who feels that Covid-19 could burn out. https://www.firstpost.com/health/coronavirus-could-burn-out-on-its-own-before-we-have-a-working-vaccine-former-who-chief-8387911.html

They do burn out. Especially if the unconstrained R0 is low, there is a tight incubation period, people aren't infectious before symptoms or the death rate is high. For Covid-19 none of that appears to be true however, and in the absence of a vaccine its far more likely to become endemic like influenza rather that die out, or require > than 60% of the population to be infected prior to dying out. If it does become endemic, milder strain will likely evolve over time, with the odd flare up of a mutant strain, but all of us will get some degree of natural immunity

robbiezero · 21-05-2020 02:02PM

amadangomor wrote: »

What are you? A let them die Larry?

Ah you can't really use Larry again. Maybe Pull the Plug Paddy?

Deeper Blue · 21-05-2020 02:18PM

So far there's been zero evidence of a second wave anywhere, I don't know why certain people are talking about it like it's an inevitability

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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