Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

MipMap wrote: »

Or maybe the day will come when people like you will understand the basics of exponential mathematics. when we see "cases start to rise again" it is already too late.
You simply don't get that?
You think you can play poker with this thing?

Maybe the day will come when people like you actually read the post they are replying to before going off on one.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

No comparison between Ireland (or even Europe) and Brazil.

The Trump of the south is getting the same result as the Trump of the north.

No surprises there.

https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1262886338644369408?s=21

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

4 up to 16 (RIP) deaths is bad

Fluctuations, when the numbers get smaller the relative change day to day will get a lot larger.

It is like throwing a coin three times vs 33 times and comparing the number of heads to tails that come up.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Because we’re a social species and this can’t go on forever. And the brain works hard to normalise any situation. That doesn’t mean we get used try to lockdown, it means we grow weary and complacent. And frankly, some of us don’t have decades ahead of us. For some, several months is a big chunk of their remaining life. I don’t see why it’s so hard to understand. The lockdown bought us time and now it’s only natural to question where we go from here.

Absolutely, it can't go on forever. I wouldn't want it to go on forever. No one enjoys lockdown life.

But to say that the purpose of the lockdown is to buy time is only partly true. That is one of the aims, but it's also to control the spread of the disease and to suppress it as much as possible. You buy time, but you are also trying to weaken the enemy.

Look how far we've come. On April 16th there were 1040 confirmed cases - just over a month later, today, we had 51. That's a 95% reduction in that space of time. That's incredible. And we've widened the testing criteria and the number of positive cases continues to fall, so it's a reasonable guess to assume that we have in fact manged to get community transmission more under control, rather than just missing positive cases through problems with how we deploy testing.

The fervour I speak of - and I am not suggesting that you personally subscribe to all of this - is the absolute impatience of more and more people to open up everything as soon as possible, immediately. Even though it's obvious that caution, even if only for the next two to three weeks, would put us in a much more sustainable position going into the future. We could eliminate community transmission with no if's and but's. That's not an impossible goal based on where we are right now. We've our boot on the throat of this thing, we don't just let it go now - when we've fought the hardest part of the battle - just so it can slink off for a while, but still with enough strength in it to come back at us again.

We've all suffered, we've all made terrible sacrifices: the lock down is terrible, but, jesus, the end is in sight.

bb1234567 wrote: »

1,180 deaths in Brazil today. Brazil will likely overtake France and Spain in number of deaths within the next week and a half. A shocking number in a country with an average age of just 31. That's what happens when you don't lock down, or rather when you do nothing anyway

More than 85% of ICU beds are now full in Rio and Sao Paulo (here it is now in excess of 90%). A disaster is unfolding there that will kill more than those with coronavirus as well sadly.

And according to the BBC

Health services in Manaus, the state capital, have been overwhelmed and mass graves are being used to bury the dead.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-52701524

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

No relevance to Ireland or Europe so.
No fake tweets today?

You do know Brazil is not a third world country anymore, right?

You do know that?

Stheno wrote: »

Dysfunction in requirements to report death

I dont get why even just deaths in hospitals in real time or up to midnight the day before cant be reported tbh

Hospital staff have more important things to do than feeding the 24 hour news cycle surely.

The US is (only now) considering travel ban on Brazil.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-19/trump-considers-brazil-travel-ban-in-latest-sign-of-virus-woes

But isn't Bolsonaro his friend?

I'm going to be that negative person unfortunately. Yes its welcome and good to see number of cases dropping along with deaths but...

I have a feeling most people on this thread will be the same people moaning about transport, healthcare, housing, education etc. when this is all over in a year or two. Maybe we don't have much of a choice but to stay in lockdown I'm no expert but someone will be paying for this, of that there is no doubt. Sometimes I wonder if some, emphasis on some, people are happy to collect their 350 and continue as is?

I know I sound negative but I feel its some people are living with the fairies thinking this can go on for months

I say this as someone who has just come out of college with no job and probably no likelihood of getting one for the next few months at least, at the same time my family are healthy so...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/policing-covid-19-will-hit-garda-budget-hard-commissioner-warns-991325.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0519/1139398-construction-coronavirus/

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0519/1139341-daa-seeking-1-000-redundancies/

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0519/1139232-european-car-sales/

https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/others/tough-decisions-irelands-economy-covid

jams100 wrote: »

I'm going to be that negative person unfortunately. Yes its welcome and good to see number of cases dropping along with deaths but...

I have a feeling most people on this thread will be the same people moaning about transport, healthcare, housing, education etc. when this is all over in a year or two. Maybe we don't have much of a choice but to stay in lockdown I'm no expert but someone will be paying for this, of that there is no doubt. Sometimes I wonder if some, emphasis on some, people are happy to collect their 350 and continue as is?

I know I sound negative but I feel its some people are living with the fairies thinking this can go on for months

I say this as someone who has just come out of college with no job and probably no likelihood of getting one for the next few months at least, at the same time my family are healthy so...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/policing-covid-19-will-hit-garda-budget-hard-commissioner-warns-991325.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0519/1139398-construction-coronavirus/

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0519/1139341-daa-seeking-1-000-redundancies/

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/0519/1139232-european-car-sales/

https://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/others/tough-decisions-irelands-economy-covid

Not a question of negativity but of realism.

The fact is if our hospitals get overwhelmed and coffins start piling up as happened in Italy then the economy won't function and new measures need to be introduced anyway.

It's not a choice.

quokula wrote: »

Hospital staff have more important things to do than feeding the 24 hour news cycle surely.

They may, but reporting on an infectious disease is important for reasons other than the news.