Masks

Markomlm · 18-05-2020 09:53PM

No: I will wait for the HSE to recommend

Stark wrote: »

I felt very silly myself wearing one today in the supermarket and I'm sure I got some snide looks/sniggers. Someone has to start the trend though, as other people start to see people wear them, they'll feel more comfortable until eventually it's the majority hopefully.

I personally choose not to wear a mask out while shopping or in public, but I fully accept and understand those that choose to do so. I don't think any person should be berated or stigmatized for wearing or not wearing a covering, and thank goodness we all have a choice.

kingtut · 18-05-2020 11:00PM

I'm in the same boat - not wearing a mask but no issue with anyone else wearing one. I just don't understand why you would wear a mask but not goggles or a face shield?

r93kaey5p2izun · 18-05-2020 11:07PM

Yes: valved

kingtut wrote: »

I'm in the same boat - not wearing a mask but no issue with anyone else wearing one. I just don't understand why you would wear a mask but not goggles or a face shield?

To protect others. Your eyes aren't posing much risk to others. If everyone wore the mask it would significantly reduce risk for all, as so many studies are showing, and obviously the need to wear goggles would be much reduced too.

Jim_Hodge · 18-05-2020 11:08PM

Yes: homemade

kingtut wrote: »

I'm in the same boat - not wearing a mask but no issue with anyone else wearing one. I just don't understand why you would wear a mask but not goggles or a face shield?

But you wear a mask to protect others from you.

Stark · 18-05-2020 11:10PM

No: other

This is getting like "why should I cough in my elbow, surely it's my personal choice if I want to cough on someone else?"

Arrival · 18-05-2020 11:12PM

Markomlm wrote: »

I personally choose not to wear a mask out while shopping or in public, but I fully accept and understand those that choose to do so. I don't think any person should be berated or stigmatized for wearing or not wearing a covering, and thank goodness we all have a choice.

Especially since we're wearing masks to actually protect the people around us in order to slow the spread, same reason we all respected the lockdown

Anyone laughing at or judging mask wearers are so thick and they've no idea

Arrival · 18-05-2020 11:15PM

kingtut wrote: »

I'm in the same boat - not wearing a mask but no issue with anyone else wearing one. I just don't understand why you would wear a mask but not goggles or a face shield?

Because we don't spread the virus from our eyes, we spread it from droplets escaping our noses and mouths when we breathe/talk/cough/sneeze

kingtut · 18-05-2020 11:27PM

Arrival wrote: »

Because we don't spread the virus from our eyes, we spread it from droplets escaping our noses and mouths when we breathe/talk/cough/sneeze

Yes but some people are wearing masks as they don't want to get the virus. It's those people who should wear goggles too.

If you are wearing it to prevent spreading it then yes obviously you don't need goggles.

kingtut · 18-05-2020 11:28PM

Arrival wrote: »

Especially since we're wearing masks to actually protect the people around us in order to slow the spread, same reason we all respected the lockdown

Anyone laughing at or judging mask wearers are so thick and they've no idea

Sadly a lot of people haven't respected the lockdown but thankfully numbers have dropping. It will be interesting to see how the numbers go as things start opening up.

Never.Give.Up · 18-05-2020 11:30PM

Yes: other

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

But you wear a mask to protect others from you.

You wear a mask to help protect others.

You wear a N95/FFP2+ respirator, goggles and, in rare situation gloves, to protect yourself.

You wear a faceshield to protect the respirator you are likely re-using out of emergency and/or to help protect your eyes if you don't have goggles.

Worth mentioning too, you use hand sanitizer or hand washing before touching any of the above to avoid cross contamination. And of course proper removal and cleansing of the above is also important. It's easy to go into a "It'll be grand" mindset when we can't see the virus or people suffering in close proximity.

Stark · 18-05-2020 11:31PM

No: other

kingtut wrote: »

Yes but some people are wearing masks as they don't want to get the virus. It's those people who should wear goggles too.

If you are wearing it to prevent spreading it then yes obviously you don't need goggles.

The lengths one has to go to to protect one's own self from infection are extremely burdensome and not very practical outside of clinical settings. For the masks thing to work, it needs to be at a majority population level. It has to be about people protecting other people rather than protecting themselves. When used by the majority of the population, even badly used masks are still very effective at reducing the overall spread of the virus.

Culture of mask wearing is one of the key differences between Asian countries who have handled the pandemic situation very well and Western countries who have handled the situation very badly imo.

Of course, we could all just respect everyone's "personal choices" and continue to sit at home watching Netflix/our economy slide into oblivion until August and beyond.

Seanergy · 18-05-2020 11:35PM

Yes: valved

hgfj wrote: »

Quote:

"Don't go blaming SV for the poor mask uptake.

Poor mask uptake is primarily on the shoulders of the press and the State for they have been bashing it for months."

Well, I do blame them (and others like them). Are you willing to pay 3.50 every time you use a mask? Can you afford it?

Whatever about the press and the State making a balls of it, that doesn't excuse price gouging. Uptake would be higher if price was lower.

Well just don't and if your really pumped about it talk to the manager in your local SV. I will call the head office tomorrow on your behalf to enquire and make a formal complaint. You can do the same. 1850 211 840 Get off your ass and do something about it cause for sure the government have left us all high and dry on this.

No I wouldn't even pay 1 euro for a surgical mask, I think they are overpriced muck, I would prefer to use regular t-shirt and a piece of kitchen towel. For me surgical masks are way too loose on the face and the generic size does not suit my big nose. I made reusable facecoverings from boxer shorts and bra's and currently making some out of shopping bags.

Phase1 or even pre phase1 should have been the opening of the textile industry to facilitate the mass production of facecoverings for the GP.

State made no attempt to secure masks for us, no attempt to subsidise or put a cap price on them, basically we have been told rummage in your underwear drawer or grab a tea towel and you blame SV for poor mask uptake.

Never.Give.Up · 18-05-2020 11:56PM

Yes: other

Stark wrote: »

For the masks thing to work, it needs to be at a majority population level.

Culture of mask wearing is one of the key differences between Asian countries who have handled the pandemic situation very well and Western countries who have handled the situation very badly imo.

Coming from 50% Irish culture and 50% Asian culture, I can +1 this. A lot of us "fear what people will think of us" when we wear masks. A co-ordinated "nothing to lose" movement supported by likeable members of society and influencers may solve this.

Arrival · 19-05-2020 12:19AM

kingtut wrote: »

Yes but some people are wearing masks as they don't want to get the virus. It's those people who should wear goggles too.

If you are wearing it to prevent spreading it then yes obviously you don't need goggles.

Yep, and the more people wearing masks with the intention of reducing the spread the less people would need to wear goggles to protect themselves as there would be less of the virus spreading in public for them to be running into

Arrival · 19-05-2020 12:24AM

kingtut wrote: »

Sadly a lot of people haven't respected the lockdown but thankfully numbers have dropping. It will be interesting to see how the numbers go as things start opening up.

They are likely to go up as things start opening up because we are a stupid country who doesn't want to implement mandatory mask wearing in areas where the virus is most likely to spread amongst the community

Some countries which have implemented mask wearing, such as Germany, and are reopening seem to be doing well so far. But we don't have the same measures and rate of adherence with masks, so I suppose we'll be a test and comparison. It would of course be great if we didn't experience a big increase, just totally unsurprising if we do

Boggles · 19-05-2020 09:25AM

Seanergy wrote: »

So the Garda got thier mask supply this morning.

Garda Headquarters said gardaí on duty would wear the masks in enclosed situations such as in patrol cars, public transport, shops or someone's home.

They asked for clarification nearly 2 months ago, basically should they be wearing masks or not, and if not, why not.

I guess they finally got their answer.

MadYaker · 19-05-2020 01:54PM

Yes: surgical

kingtut wrote: »

I'm in the same boat - not wearing a mask but no issue with anyone else wearing one. I just don't understand why you would wear a mask but not goggles or a face shield?

Do you breath or cough out through your eyes? the mask isn't to protect you its to protect others.

The gov have done a piss poor job on educating people around this.

kingtut · 19-05-2020 03:01PM

MadYaker wrote: »

Do you breath or cough out through your eyes? the mask isn't to protect you its to protect others.

The gov have done a piss poor job on educating people around this.

As per one of my previous messages I was referring to people who wear them for the reason that they don't want to get covid. Doesn't apply to people who wear them to protect others obviously.

kingtut · 19-05-2020 03:01PM

MadYaker wrote: »

Do you breath or cough out through your eyes? the mask isn't to protect you its to protect others.

The gov have done a piss poor job on educating people around this.

As per one of my previous messages I was referring to people who wear them for the reason that they don't want to get covid. Doesn't apply to people who wear them to protect others obviously.

Stark · 19-05-2020 03:12PM

No: other

And how do you know what a person's motivations for wearing one are? Are you telepathic?

kingtut · 19-05-2020 03:45PM

Stark wrote: »

And how do you know what a person's motivations for wearing one are? Are you telepathic?

No I am not.

What I am saying is "If you are wearing a mask because you believe it will prevent you from getting the virus then why are you not also wearing goggles"

Not sure how I can make my point any clearer?

We have already established that if your reason for wearing a mask is purely to stop spreading the virus then you don't need goggles.

Stark · 19-05-2020 03:52PM

No: other

Wearing a mask to stop spreading virus to other people is the reason people should be wearing them. So no reason to judge anyone you see wearing a mask and not wearing goggles.

kingtut · 19-05-2020 03:56PM

Huh? I'm not judging anyone

amandstu · 19-05-2020 04:10PM

Can I put my mask in the "cold" oven (less than 100 deg Celsius but above 70 degrees) ?

I have found an old builders mask in the garage that might possibly afford protection both to the user as well as others but it is not reusable.

I have a range with some ovens at a stable cooler temperature and think that it might be very simple to sterilize this ffp2 nd airlift mask.

Will that work?

Jim_Hodge · 19-05-2020 04:19PM

Yes: homemade

kingtut wrote: »

As per one of my previous messages I was referring to people who wear them for the reason that they don't want to get covid. Doesn't apply to people who wear them to protect others obviously.

But they shouldn't be wearing them to protect themselves in the first place. The point of masks is to protect others. Nobody needs to wear goggles going to the shop.

degsie · 19-05-2020 04:25PM

Wouldn't be too sure of introducing possibly contaminated surfaces into an oven, plus boards is probably not the best place to seek medical advise.

Jim_Hodge · 19-05-2020 04:28PM

Yes: homemade

You said yourself that the mask is nit reusable. Just buy a new mask.

krissovo · 19-05-2020 04:44PM

I follow the guidelines from Stanford University, bake at 70 degrees for 30 mins. The best we could do as mere mortals and without driving up demand for medical grade masks by buying new ones.

https://news.stanford.edu/2020/04/01/researchers-show-how-to-decontaminate-reuse-n95-masks/

http://web.stanford.edu/group/cui_group/papers/Lei_Cui_MEDARXIV_2020.pdf

amandstu · 19-05-2020 04:53PM

thanks,On reflection I think baking the mask I have at 70 C might well slacken the elastic straps ....

I should probably make a few out of material and put them in the washing machine when I get back home after I have worn them.

CinemaGuy45 · 19-05-2020 04:59PM

Elderly man shocks fellow shoppers as he browses supermarket aisles wearing a SANITARY TOWEL as a mask
Shoppers in an Asda in Fife, Scotland, were shocked to see the innovative mask
The elderly man didn't seem to know what he was covering his face with
Kenny Ross, 39, recorded the video after spotting the man in the carpark

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8221495/Elderly-man-shocks-shoppers-browses-supermarket-aisles-wearing-SANITARY-TOWEL-mask.html

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